Rajaram Sir, I am always amazed at your instant versatility.You not only add value to what I write but you help my self esteem.Thank You Sir. YM
On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 7:14 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]> wrote: > Connection Between Quantum Physics and Upanishads — Coincidence or Reality? > > Upanishads, also known as Vedanta, were written at different periods > starting 3500 years ago. Vedanta is a school of philosophy in ancient > Indian civilization out of the six schools of philosophy I discussed in one > of my blogs. Upanishads contain the core philosophy of the society that > prevailed during 1000 BC in the subcontinent and have many overlaps with > civilizations like the Maya, Inca, and other native American cultures. > These overlaps are also part of my ongoing study at the moment. > > The uncanny similarities between Upanishads and Quantum Physics can be a > coincidence in how we view it. This came through deep research, > validations, and observations that philosophers realized then. Research > methodologies are mentioned in the Nayaya School of Philosophy of the Six > Schools mentioned above. > > As a Physics student interested in Quantum Physics, I have always > considered Schrodinger as the Guru. His wave equation is valid in both > quantum and classical physics. What is valid in the Quantum world is valid > in classical physics, but the vice versa is not valid. > > Schrodinger often referred to Upanishads, Indian scriptures containing > various concepts around Consciousness. Upanishads talk about Karma (laws of > actions), cause and effect, real and unreal, creation and destruction, life > and death, illusion and reality, physical and abstract, and much more, > which find commonality with particle physicists often discuss. Upanishads > cover 108 topics, each focusing on a particular area. It is widely believed > to be an outcome of debate, discussions, research, meditation, analysis, > and much more. There is no mythology or some belief system attached to it, > but there are hypotheses, Q&A, agreements, disagreements, and conclusions. > Thirteen of them are the main Upanishads covering the bulk of the concepts. > > Upanishads believe that the world is made of cosmic energy. Everything it > sees is a form of energy, but it indicates they all have one common source. > It comes from “Brahman,” which means “Cosmic Universe or universal > energy,” and our soul, “Atman,” is also a part of that energy, and so is > every other entity you see. It says that you cannot realize nor understand > that reality and the only way to understand is to negate everything, > i.e., in Sanskrit, it says “Neti, Neti,” meaning “neither this nor that.” > > Schrodinger often used the formula to explain his concept “Atman=Brahman”. > He says in his book “What is Life?” and I quote, “From the early great > Upanishads the recognition ATMAN = BRAHMAN upheld in (the personal > self-equals the omnipresent, all-comprehending eternal self) was in Indian > thought considered, far from being blasphemous, to represent the > quintessence of deepest insight into the happenings of the world.” > Schrodinger then delves into the dilemma of plurality of consciousness and > finds it absurd with the risk of attracting the wrath of many. The observed > reality around us is felt the same, and hence, is there a shared > consciousness that prevails and uses the concept of deception to generate > the perceived plurality of consciousness believed by many? This is > described as Maya (illusion) in Upanishads, making us see things > differently. > > The concept that everything is a part of Brahman (omnipotent Universal > Energy), which drives everything in the real world, is analogous to the > quantum theory of everything seen as a waveform, and every equation in the > real world can be derived from one wave equation of Schrodinger. But this > can be an irrelevant analogy if we miss the forest for the tree. > > There are more. Brihadaranuiyaka Upanishad (one of the thirteen main) > indicates that the Self “Itself’ is unknowable. Further, it says that the > Non-Dual Self, as the observer of its projected Creation, is the knower of > Itself. This is the ultimate reason that one cannot know the absolute > because the self cannot see Itself. This takes the hypothesis further > that the observer and the observed are the same and not just connected. A > notable example of the observer effect occurs in quantum mechanics, as > demonstrated by the double-slit experiment. Physicists have found that > observation of quantum phenomena by a detector or an instrument can change > the measured results of this experiment. Despite the “observer effect” in > the double-slit experiment being caused by the presence of an electronic > detector, the experiment’s results have been interpreted by some to suggest > that a conscious mind can directly affect reality. However, what exactly > changes is unknown unless we agree that consciousness is inherent. > Philosophically and Scientifically, reality can never be known, and the > observer and the observed are connected, but god knows how. See, the > conscious mind can directly affect reality. > > > > Upanishads delve deeply into the triad of Mind, Intellect, and > Consciousness, striving to uncover incomprehensible mysteries to ordinary > people, much like Quantum physics, which is difficult to comprehend. > Schrodinger was not the only physicist who used to refer to Upanishads. > Neil Bohr was the other one who said in his book — God is not one, “I go to > the Upanishad to ask questions.” > > There are scores of examples from Nikola Tesla and Robert Oppenheimer, who > have also quoted about the Upanishads. Whether it is a mere coincidence of > a few things that resonated or was there something by design, is not yet > very clear to me. But the knowledge of nothingness, concepts beyond space > and time, and the idea about consciousness and its connection to reality > are attractive for any particle physicists searching for truth. Their keen > interest surprised me a little. > > Consciousness has been an alien subject, untouched by science so far. > The uncertain and vast future will revolve around understanding > consciousness, replicating and experiencing it, and sometimes recreating it > (machine consciousness), which may expose us to many unknowns — the annals > of civilizations from the Indian Subcontinent to the Aztecs, the Mayans, > the Incas and remaining knowledge of Pagans of Europe are holding an > unexplored treasure of centuries of research across various civilization. > More > concepts we have together taken out but for the present I end it here > After all science is also truth as Brahmam. K Rajaram IRS 26224 > > On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 at 19:29, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> -- >> *Mar*Attempting is Succeeding >> >> >> >> We are here because of the energy from the Sun. To be exact we are the >> creations of Sun’s photons, photon synthesized. We are embedded with photon >> transformations, all containing the photons. >> >> Light or the flow of photons is the fastest in the universe. That speed >> of photons or simply light has set the maximum limit to your own potential >> energy. The speed of light has set the maximum limit to energy everywhere. >> You have so much energy and if you believe in the true fact and attempt, >> you can attempt with your maximum strength, the strength of the photons, >> embedded in you. >> >> E=mc2, is your own potential energy. >> >> You can actually live such a wonderful life of strength, if you team up >> with nature, and create the symbiotic cooperation and collaboration of the >> flora and the fauna in your attempt. Purposeful and determined attempt has >> so much strength which you can use. Theism is not belief based on logic. It >> is experience, when one lives in free and healthy nature as a component of >> nature. In such free and healthy nature, your attempt becomes the attempt >> of nature. Nature’s symbiosis or simply God is there in every positive >> attempt, the attempt which helps and not harms nature. >> >> Breathing creates emotions. Emotions create the urge to attempt. >> Breathing creates smells, smelling creates sensing, which creates sensing >> and perceiving, creating the understanding, leading to confident >> attempting. Attempting armed with positive emotions, inducts photons the >> particles of energy, into your attempt. In the free and healthy nature, >> every organism teams up with you, with its photons. >> >> The basic fact of nature is that in free and healthy nature, attempting >> is succeeding. As it is, these are some of the endowments which the energy >> of photons is giving you. >> >> 1) In a single second your body makes one million red blood cells. >> >> 2) They are simply photons, the basic currency of energy. >> >> 3) They travel through your veins into the cells keeping you alive. >> >> 4) In its lifetime, each red blood cell carries oxygen to the cells >> 1, 50,000 times. >> >> 5) The total number of cells in you is seven octillion or seven >> followed by 27 zeros (7,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000).This is the >> figure given by Bill Bryson in his book, ‘The Body’. >> >> 6) All those cells are photon energized, keeping you alive and active. >> >> 7) The airways in your lungs are as long as two thousand miles. >> >> You are a great immensity. When you attempt believing in your strength, >> you simply cannot fail in symbiotic attempts with nature as partner. >> >> When you keep this immensity of you unused and instead use machines to do >> the work, you are shackling your cells. They cannot keep themselves >> inactive and they begin shaking you, and you shiver. Thanks to technology >> which is making our limbs inactive and often redundant, we are becoming >> neurotics and we shiver uncontrollably. You are caging your own energy and >> that energy is fighting you directionlessly. >> >> In free and very healthy and lush flora and fauna, you automatically >> become nature or the Biosphere. >> >> Now imagine you running happily, climbing trees, playing with animals, >> laughing, singing and dancing, in free and healthy nature. No machine can >> defeat you. You simply cannot become scientific and enter the make believe >> that you are an outside observer of nature and not an active symbiotic >> component of nature. >> >> Just look at your own body. Even the slightest harm automatically makes >> millions of cells in you protect you. Nature too has the same mechanism. >> Actually you are part of the macro body, the Biosphere. >> >> A cell is microscopic in size. But it is a mini universe, with billions >> of functioning components. In your DNA, which is six feet long, there are >> billions of base pairs, and in every cell of the octillion cells there is >> DNA copy. If you tag all the DNA ladders into one straight line, its length >> is sufficient to circle the solar system. Physical activity keeps every >> part of the immensity, you, active in your macro body nature, provided you >> are not poisoning and destroying nature. Base pairs are the building blocks >> of the genes that create the instructions for the building of proteins of >> your body. >> >> Technology is making the great wonder ‘you’ inactive and redundant, as >> you have functions to perform in nature as a component of nature. >> >> In your small scale you can do something to help nature and partner with >> nature. No machine can equal you in strength or in teaming up with >> nature.Partnering with nature and functioning as a limb and component of >> nature, which is free and healthy, develops the habit of success in you. >> >> YM >> >> >> >> >> > -- *Mar* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CACDCHCJkqmhNHxj_YPUN8VXD%3D7czg%3Df7iKeECRfvaJy5jmvXGA%40mail.gmail.com.
