AND THUS PURGED AN OLD MAN IN THE STREETS OF SINGAPORE BRAIN-DRAINED  K R
IRS  27224

On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 at 01:26, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Dear folks
>
> When a clown and a super-extra-clown get together with their bang-bang
> drums, and pirouette under the glare of spotlights like emperors without
> clothes, they provide uproarious entertainment and cause for laughter.
>
> Clown YM muses:-
>
> "*Justice and morality must get answer only to one question, whether an
> activity is symbiotic with nature or whether it promotes antibiosis."*
>
> His master and trainer initially responds dismissively:-
>
> "*KR ex-IRS:  In my opinion neither.*"
>
> Then launches on a whirlwind tour of totally irrelevant and misconceived
> territory covering purportedly r'g-vedam, bhagavath-geetha, "other vedams
> and upanishads", and even Manusmrithi.
>
> He touches on the idea of nishkaama-karmam without understand what it
> means or is;  the art of living but not the technology of living;  the
> great technology by the karma as the cause of conjunction and disjunction;
> birth as an expiation for the actions of previous lives;  transference or
> exchange of karma;  the concept of the fetters of Varuna;  Karma exists in
> one substance at a time;  only those actions which are motivated by the
> spirit of self-interest, desire and attachment are binding.
>
> His final deeply-thought, long-pondered, profoundly-cogitated,
> well-polished and re-polished conclusion at the end of it all:-  "*We may
> have to equate the equation of life in many ways."*
>
> A far, far cry from his lap-puppy's squeal:-
>
> "*We **must get answer only to one question, whether an activity is
> symbiotic with nature or whether it promotes antibiosis.*"
>
> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 12:53 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> 1 whether an activity is symbiotic with nature or whether it promotes
>> antibiosis?  YMji asked.
>>
>> KR      In my opinion neither. B G based on Ri8cs of the Rig vedam,
>> followed by other Vedas and many Upanishads speak only ABOUT THE ACTION
>> ALWAYS EVEN IG HE IS A GOD.  And it affirms that it shall be in the nature
>> od public service without any expectations of the rewards of any equity.
>> And only such nishkamya karma achieves the prize of living as a human.
>>
>> *2 Life must be the art of living and not technology of living.*
>>
>>      Again, neither art nor technology are independent of the other. Art
>> is running the life adopting dextrously the technology; and technology has
>> to be woven like an art. Action in inaction and inaction in action are
>> art and technology, interdependent to survive and progress. The entire
>> space where so many materials with so many different names are swirling in
>> speed are in principle the great technology by the brahmam while the visual
>> spectrum is an art of beauty with a rhythm.
>>
>> 3    Karma (कर्म, “action”):—One of the six *padārtha *(or ‘basic
>> categories’) which should be known to every Physician if he wants to
>> understand the science of life. Karma (कर्म) is defined as the cause of
>> conjunction and disjunction and residing in *dravya*. It begins with
>> effort and appears in movements of living tissues and organs.
>>
>> 4          Karma is centrally placed to the explanation of the universe
>> by the culture. It is proposed as the cause of the activity in the entire
>> world and thereby a fundamental percept being the cause of everything
>> (Padma Purāṇa 2.94). Karma as an unseen magical virtue or as a merit of
>> ritualistic actions fructifying at some later point of time is repeatedly
>> expressed in the literature. Its manifestation after bodily death is also
>> mentioned (Atharvaveda XVIII.2.57). In the later phase the daiva aspect of
>> Karma considering birth as an expiation for the actions of previous lives
>> also retained the unseen angle of Karma. In its literal sense it is termed
>> as ‘adṛṣṭa’ or ‘apūrva’. Its connectivity with the parts of time as
>> fruition of past actions or fructification in a distant future beyond
>> bodily existence, makes ‘time’ a function of karma.Karma possessed a
>> tendency of gathering. Every action once performed was believed to
>> fructify, and those which do not fructify instantly were bound to be
>> stored. Whether meritorious or non-meritorious every action being
>> consequential and resulting in fruition after a certain lapse of time
>> attributed Karman the property of accumulation until they being fructified
>> or exhausted. Samkhya make it a part of the primordial matter (Prakṛti).
>>
>> 5       Karma is equated with motion. (technology) The idea subsists
>> itself in its literary expression and in its basic concept that every
>> action is inevitably subjected to fruition. It is also frequently expressed
>> in the notion of transference or exchange of Karma. It is said to possess
>> downward gravity (adhogurutva) in opposition to or relatively with the soul
>> possessing an upward movement. (ūrdhvagurutva). This thought in sense of
>> being tied down (due to immoral actions) is expressed very early in the
>> concept of the fetters of Varuṇa, whereas the idea continues in later
>> period where a man with true insight is not restrained by his actions in
>> opposition to those without insight who are tied down to repeated births
>> and deaths. (Manusmrithi 6.74) Karma (human action) is determinative of a
>> man’s gati is an important concept in relation with the doctrine. In the
>> initial literature, the soul was supposed to move by its inherent power
>> (svadhā) ( Rig Vedam 1 164) and later because of the accumulated Karmas. Or
>> it was the complex of dharmādharma (adṛṣṭa) which decided the future course
>> of the soul. The possible courses (gati) or destinies depended upon the
>> nature of the acts. The state between two material or gross bodies defined
>> as vigraha-gati also finds mention in the literature.  The Epics believed
>> Karma as a causative force, the past actions surface in the present life
>> was a belief thus daiva takes a prominent position in this period Equally
>> the importance of human effort is expressed in the Yājñavalkya Smṛti.
>>
>> 6         Karma (action) is the third category, in the Nyāya-Vaiśeṣika
>> (technology)  philosophy. After the root ‘kṛ’ the suffix ‘man’ is added and
>> the resulting form is karma which meaning is kriyā. Karma means physical
>> movement. Like guṇa, karma also inheres in substance. Though it inheres in
>> dravya, it is neither dravya nor guṇa; it is an independent category. A
>> guṇa is a permanent and tolerable feature of dravya, while a karma is
>> transitory feature of it.  Kaṇāda ( the rishi scoientist and the
>> technologist who anlysed the science) gives the definition of karma thus:
>>
>>
>>
>> Eka dravyam aguṇaṃ saṃyoga-vibhāge ṣvana pekṣakāra ṇamiti karma lakṣaṇam. It
>> means that karma exists in one substance at a time; it is not a quality
>> and it is the immediate cause of conjunction and disjunction. For
>> example, a ball is a substance, the movement of the ball remains in the
>> ball but it is not a guna. When a ball is thrown to a house-top from the
>> earth, there is the disjunction of the ball with the earth and conjunction
>> with the housetop. Here the movement of the ball is the cause of the
>> conjunction of the ball with the housetop and the disjunction of the ball
>> with earth. *So also, each life*. Annaṃbhaṭṭa gives the second
>> definition of karma with the help of its generic attribute (jāti). Karma is
>> the substratum of the genus karmatva. According to the Nyāya-Vaiśeṣikas,
>> the generic attribute karmatva (actionhood) is proved by perception.
>>
>> 7      Law of Karma refers to the principle of causality where intent and
>> actions of individual influence the future of that individual. It is the
>> principle of causality applied in the moral field. Every action must
>> produce some effects. We cannot make any act without effect or result. An
>> action once performed will bring some result. Man, once performs an action,
>> has no control over the effect. Krishna says exactly this when he says to
>> Arjuna that one’s right is only to the action, never to the fruits there
>> of. So the fruit should not be an incentive to action, or rather the motive
>> for its performance. We find Krishna here pointing out that, as effects of
>> causes and results of actions cannot be stopped, one is to disconnect
>> oneself from the fruit of action. In other words, we should not desire for
>> any fruit, as it is out of our control and performed our duties without any
>> attachment to the fruit.
>>
>> karmany eva'dhikaras te ma phalesu kadacana
>>
>> ma karmaphalahetur bhur ma te sango ‘stv akarmani (ii,47)
>>
>> “To action alone hast thou a right and never at all to its fruits; let
>> not the fruits of action be thy motive; neither let there be in thee any
>> attachment to inaction”
>>
>> 8     But at the same time, the Gita seems to giving us a religion by
>> which the rule of karma, the natural order of deed and consequences, can be
>> transcended. The Gita is a book that does not advocate inaction. However,
>> if every action makes one bound to enjoy or suffer the fruit of action, the
>> Gita cannot talk about moksa or liberation. We will always be stuck to the
>> cycle of birth and death to get the fruit of action we performed. The Gita
>> has to recognize a realm of reality where karma does not operate. The
>> Gita says that causality does not work where one establishes one’s
>> relations with action without attachment; here one is free in his deepest
>> being. The chain of karma can be broken here and now, within the flux of
>> the empirical world. We become master of karma by developing detachment
>> which helps us to attain the ultimate goal of human life, that is,
>> liberation (moksa). Niskama Karma is action without desire for fruit or
>> result.
>>
>> 9      Niskama Karma is the way to avoid creating new karma and also
>> resolve earlier karma. Niskama Karma is the means for the realization of
>> the true knowledge which is the final goal of all living beings. Niskama
>> Karma is the ideal path to realize truth. Allocated work done without
>> expectations, motives, or thinking about its outcomes tends to purify one’s
>> mind and gradually makes an individual fit to see the value of reason and
>> benefits of renouncing the work itself. Krishna points that with regard to
>> Niskama Karma, there is no relation between action and the result. Niskama
>> karma says if we execute action without attachment the natural order of
>> karma can be transcended. Binding is as long as motives are there. What
>> binds us to the chain of birth and death is not action as but actions
>> performed with desire for their fruits. But according to the Gita all
>> action are not binding. Only those actions which are motivated by the
>> spirit of self-interest, desire and attachment are binding, Actions which
>> are done in the spirit of niskama are not binding. The doctrine of niskama
>> karma of the Gita does not teach us renunciation of karma (action).
>>
>> 10    तत्त्ववित् तु महा-बाहो गुण-कर्म-विभागयोः ।
>>
>> गुणा गुणेषु वर्तन्त इति मत्वा न सज्जते ॥ २८ ॥
>>
>> tattvavit tu mahā-bāho guṇa-karma-vibhāgayoḥ |
>>
>> guṇā guṇeṣu vartanta iti matvā na sajjate || 28 ||3
>>
>> O mighty-armed Arjuna, a person who knows that the soul is aloof from the
>> three binding forces of material nature, as well as from the laws of karma,
>> does not falsely identify himself as the doer. This is because he
>> understands that the senses are engaged in their respective sense objects
>> and is aloof from them.   So, I think we may have to equate the equation of
>> life in many ways to gain control over so many factors.
>>
>> K Rajaram IRS   27224
>>
>> On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 at 21:28, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Mar*Activity
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Activity is the basic feature of life. At the ultimate basic,
>>> fundamental and foundational level, every activity of everything in the
>>> universe is the struggle to return to the speed of light and join the
>>> electromagnetic waves. Whatever classifications you confront, atoms,
>>> quarks, leptons etc, at the ultimate bedrock level they are just
>>> manifestations of electromagnetic waves. Vacuum is the home of
>>> electromagnetic waves, whose speed as the speed of light is the ultimate or
>>> maximum. The speed of light is the maximum limit to energy. And we are all
>>> the manifestations of electromagnetism, basically armed with photons, the
>>> units of maximum energy. The most determined symbiotic attempt gets filled
>>> and propelled by photons, the ultimate units of consciousness.
>>> Enlightenment as the ultimate understanding becomes rapture, the experience
>>> of being part of the electromagnetic waves, the ultimate destination or
>>> home.
>>>
>>> All art forms are forms of rapture, of the vacuum. Every symbiotic work
>>> or activity is a form of art. All of us are trying to be happy, to feel
>>> rapture or experience the ultimate vacuum of the universe. Rapture and
>>> vacuum are abstract and not the 3D of the visible spectrum.
>>>
>>> Correct seeing is seeing with feeling. Otherwise it becomes scientific
>>> or mechanical and feelings-less, the ultimately dry or barren, or
>>> technological. When you employ a machine, you automatically withdraw your
>>> feelings and emotions, stop your own internal hormonal communication, and
>>> end the Biospheric symbiosis, the counterfeiting of life.
>>>
>>> It is time to question economics and economic activity. Today all
>>> economic activity is anti nature, anti-ecological and destruction as
>>> routine.
>>>
>>> On the other hand when your work is interaction with nature,
>>> automatically you interact with many other life forms and the internal
>>> hormonal communications of all of them fuse symbiotically. When you use a
>>> machine, you are defeating the basic purpose of your limbs, your life.
>>>
>>> Justice and morality must get answer only to one question, whether an
>>> activity is symbiotic with nature or whether it promotes antibiosis.
>>> Unfortunately antibiosis has developed many branches of economic activity,
>>> all of which destroy nature. Marketing is the devising of human’s surrender
>>> to technology in many new and new ways.
>>>
>>> Life must be the art of living and not technology of living.
>>>
>>> YM
>>>
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