Mr Rajaram,
The basic problem with you is your ego. You wrote English worse than a
Kalahasthi priest writes about Rahukala pooja in very bad English. I just
corrected your response in a readable manner.
But you are not ready to accept. Instead you are bringing a saying in Tamil.
"The lady who does not know to perform dance perfectly blamed the street is
having an angle, affecting her dance"
An appropriate saying suited to you, not for me
Gopalakrishnan
On Saturday, 9 March, 2024 at 10:02:38 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy
<[email protected]> wrote:
There is a saying AADATH TERIYAADHA TE..... TERU KONAL ENDRAALAAM; people who
do not have stuff or content can become only a rowdy loitering on thestreet
along with the street docs and get encountered and dead one day. That day is
not far off . Waiting K rajaram IRS 9324 Poor souls rest in peace
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From: gopala krishnan <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2024 at 22:16
Subject: Re: [KeralaIyers] Re: [iyer123] CULTURAL QA 03-2024-08A
To: Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]>
"Mr Gopala,
Whatever I read and wrote are after fully understanding. A small number can
only abuse but cannot bring in any stuff with evidence and good content. Let
them say I am wrong based on evidence.
I do read for the obvious cutting out of unnecessary data added by you in a
hurry. Thank you for the settlement K R IRS 9324"
A better corrected paragraph of what you wrote, bringing meaning on first
reading itself.
No harm meant. Only addressed to you
Gopalakrishnan
On Saturday, 9 March, 2024 at 06:49:36 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy
<[email protected]> wrote:
MR Gopala whatever is i read and written after fully understanding; that is
why a small number can only abuse but cannot bring in any stuff in evidentiary
and good content or say I am wrong based on evidence; and I do read for the
obvious cutting out of unnecessary data added by you in a hurry. Thank you for
the settlement K R IRS 9324
On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 at 18:47, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote:
Thank you Mr Rajaram for RESPONDING to my QA after reading.
Gopalakrishnan
On Friday, 8 March, 2024 at 10:43:16 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy
<[email protected]> wrote:
CULTURAL QA 03-2024-08A
Q1 Why doairplanes prefer to fly over the ocean?
Q3 What doDoctors know and I don't know but I should know?
KR 110 120isa risk factor; but good one in diabetics in fasting. Tiny
is a good doctorbut as his experience writes something which can be read and
passed off. Askingwhy I got it is normal even if it’s a small fever; doctors
who knew well alsoget it; so, what? Why generally? Health is well analysed in
our Vedic verses aswell as in Ayurvedham; as long as we are like ants, or a
bee, in spite of manynegative factors, we are marching forward; and what is
behind that? THE MIND.
TAITRIYA UPANISHAD SIKSHA VALLI 4TH ANUVAKA
शरीरं मे विचर्षणम् । जिह्वा मे मधुमत्तमा । कर्णाभ्यां भूरि विश्रुवम् । ब्रह्मणः
कोशोऽसि मेधया पिहितः । श्रुतं मे गोपाय ॥ २ ॥
śarīraṃ me vicarṣaṇam| jihvāme madhumattamā | karṇābhyāṃ bhūri viśruvam |
brahmaṇaḥ kośo'si medhayā pihitaḥ| śrutaṃ me gopāya || 2 ||
2. Able may my bodybe, sweetest be my tongue! With ears much may I hear! The
sheath ofBrahman art thou, veiled by intelligence. What I have learned do
Thoukeep.
Moreover, may my body be able! May my tongue be sweetest,uttering only what is
most agreeable! With ears much may I hear! May mykārya-kāraṇa-sanghāta the
aggregate of the causes and the effects, i.e.,the gross physical body and the
subtle senses making up my wholebodily organism—be competent for Ātma-jñāna,
competent to acquire a knowledgeof the Self. And it is for the same end that I
pray for Medha, intellectualretentiveness. Of Brahman, of the Paramatman or
Highest Self, Thou art thesheath, as of a sword, being the seat of His
manifestation.
I speak of Thee as the sheath of Brahman because those whohave cast aside all
worldly desires perceive the Suprem e in Thee, andbecause, as both the
designation and the symbol of Brahman, Thou art alone themeans of perceiving
Him.—(S.)
Thou art indeed the Pratīka, the symbol of Brahman: inThee Brahman is
perceived. By worldly intelligence Thou art concealed:that is to say, the truth
concerning Thee is unknownto men of common intelligence.
Concealed as Thou art by their worldly intelligence,they whose thoughts are
engrossed in the external objects do notcontemplate Thee, the Divine Being, who
givest immortality.—(S.)
Do Thou guard what I have heard, do thou guard my wisdom,the knowledge of the
Self and the like which I have acquired by hearingthe scriptural texts; that is
to say, do Thou enable me to acquire wisdomand retain it.
Do Thou guard my wisdom from the attacks of attachment,aversion and other such
evils: do Thou so watch that when I am engaged in thestudy of scriptures and in
other means of acquiring knowledge, I may notmeet with any obstacles to wisdom,
such as worldly attachment andthe like.—(S.)
These mantras areto be repeated by him who wishes to improve the retentive
power of memory.
As I seek wisdom,may my body be healthy and thus efficient for a practice of
contemplation! Maymy tongue be endued with extreme sweetness; may it be an
aptorgan wherewith to recite the scriptural texts! May I hear manya scriptural
text conducive to the growth of wisdom: may I not beafflicted with the evil of
deafness. O Praṇava, Thou art the place where Imay meditate upon the Supreme
Being, the Cause of the universe. Just as aleather-sheath is the place for
preserving a sword, so is Praṇava theplace for a safe meditation of Brahman.
Accordingly, concerningthe syllable ‘Om,’ the Kaṭha-Upaniṣad says:
“This is the best means, this the highest means.”
Thus Praṇava is associated with the retentive power ofintellect. Do Thou, O
Supreme Lord, designated as Thou art by that grandPraṇava, protect my
learning—all the secret truths of the Veda that I havelearned with my ears— by
way of removing the obstacles of forgetfulnessand the like.
And What Doctor Hegde says is in line with the sanathanadharma. :
https://youtu.be/bfwdfUGkm6c
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Q4 What are thewisest quotes you've ever heard or read?
G The only truewisdom is in knowing you know nothing. – Socrates
KR why so longas in USA school, because it was in the web site?
न तं विदाथय इमा जजानान्यद्युष्माकमन्तरं बभूव । नीहारेण प्रावृताजल्प्या चासुतृप
उक्थशासश्चरन्ति ॥RV 10 82 7
na taṃ vidātha yaimā jajānānyad yuṣmākam antaram babhūva | nīhāreṇa prāvṛtā
jalpyā cāsutṛpaukthaśāsaś caranti ||
“You know not him who has genitive rated these (beings);(his life) is another,
different from yours;wrapped in fog, and foolish speech(do they) wander (who
are) gluttonous and engaged in devotion.”
Commentary by Sāyaṇa: Ṛgveda-bhāṣya
Sāyaṇa:"The assertion that we know Viśvakarman in thesame way as men say, 'I am
devadatta, I am yajñadatta', isfalse, for theessence (tattva) of Viśvakarman
Parameśvara is not endowed with consciousindividual existence,but he is a
different entity from you who are sentientbeings, who have individual
consciousness, and so forth".Wrapped infoolish speech: jalpyā: i.e., saying I
am god, I am man etc.;
Ukthaśāsaḥ = singing hymns with aview to gaining felicityin a future state: you
are merely anxious for enjoyment in this world and inthe next,therefore you
know nothing of Viśvakarman; or, you who are engaged inenjoyment of this world
or the next,being subject to false knowledge orignorance, have no knowledge of
the Truth
II Katradhukaiyalavu kalladhathu ulagalavu what youknow is only a fistful
and the truth is world wide.
III ONE WHO KNOWHE KNOWS
ONE WHO KNOWSHE KNOWS NOT
AND ONE WHO DOES NOT KNOW HE KNOWS NOT
IV many morehere to express here itself.
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G You haveyour way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct
way, and the onlyway, it does not exist. – Friedrich Nietzsche
KR The quoteitself is challengeable; Nirtche is a philosopher like
Charawaka and Buddha; hedenied the existence; The death of God and the
meaninglessness of existence isa concept proposed by Nietzsche as part of his
philosophy on the nature oflife. According to Nietzsche, the death of God
marked the end of a traditionalsource of meaning and purpose within society.
And here also he said , there areumpteen ways and there is nothing called as
the right way the only way. Sothere his quote ends as useless; had he said the
best way is yet to beperfected that would have been different but he concluded
that there is noright way at all.
G It is the markof an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
without accepting it. –Aristotle
KR That is theopen mind unlike the three musketeers do; they do not place
evidential controversialfactors to sustain the truth; but simply deny or say my
farther said Aya saidetc. Legally in the English law as well as from Tarka
sastra , accepting itwithout admitting it and vice versa phrases are there.
Aristotle dis not callany one by names as some do here.
Do the difficult things while they are easy and do thegreat things while they
are small. A journey of a thousand miles must beginwith a single step. – Lao Tzu
KR Loa tzuthoughts are understandable. How can a difficult thing will be
easier? First start as without the first step onecannot reach the `1000th
step.No one if thinks it will be so difficult, will undertake a job at all; but
whena job, only when started to execute, will show its difficulties in them; so
inthe first step one is not aware of. Similarly, the great job in the
beginning.We learn the toughness only as and when we proceed.
Waste no more time arguing about what a good man shouldbe. Be one. – Marcus
Aurelius
KR And was he the one?
Happiness and freedom begin with one principle. Somethings are within your
control and some are not. – Epictetus
KR Then how doyou start and stop?
So in everything, do to others as you would have them doto you, for this sums
up the Law and the Prophets. – Jesus Christ
KR As showingyour other cheek?
Never mistake knowledge for wisdom. One helps you make aliving; the other helps
you make a life. – Sandra Carey
KR Knowledge ismistaken by Sandra to be Know-how that is the confusion
since she did not readthe BG
While we may not be able to control all that happens tous, we can control what
happens inside us. – Benjamin Franklin
KR HOW? You said something are uncontrollable.
The purpose of life is not to be happy. It is to beuseful, to be honourable, to
be compassionate, to have it make some differencethat you have lived and lived
well. – Ralph Waldo Emerson
KR Only wherethe mind is in bliss service to humanity will arise.
The two most important days in your life are the day youare born and the day
you find out why. – Mark Twain
KR Sure? Twainsaid intending after the success on one issue but can we know
before finishingthe life the HISTORY?
A man is but a product of his thoughts. What he thinks hebecomes. – Mahatma
Gandhi
KR All the aboveincluding Gandhi is not our subashitani and Upanishad
thoughts?
The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, butin rising again after
you fall. – Vince Lombardi
KR AND HOW SOON IS UPANISHAD
To improve is to change, so to be perfect is to havechanged often. – Winston
Churchill
Because he has to win the war so as a politician he had tocovet. Change might
be for the worse also. Perfection cannot be timed out.
The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot beseen or even touched.
They must be felt with the heart. – Helen Keller
KR As blind shesaid
Your talent is God’s gift to you. What you do with it isyour gift back to God.
– Leo Buscaglia
KR What you dowith the gift alone determine the good and the bad karma.
If you cannot do great things, do small things in a greatway. – Napoleon Hill
KR And should notothers say that was great?
Life goes by very fast. And the worst thing in life thatyou can have is a job
that you hate, and have no energy and creativity in. –Robert Greene
KR Hence the timeis an arrow.
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘Don’t quit.Suffer now and live
the rest of your life as a champion.’ – Muhammad Ali
KR HENCE THEYARE CALLED TOUGH PEOPLE AS THEY NEVER QUIT.
Nobody can make you feel inferior without your permission.– Eleanor Roosevelt
KR I understoodlong ago but you did not
It’s wise to learn from experience, but it is wiser tolearn from the experience
of others. – Rick Warren
KR Foer which youshould know personally their air-fly of the experiences in
the clos range andnot mere hearsays.
Don’t take life too seriously. You’ll never get out of italive. – Elbert Hubbard
KR If you are playfulthen returns are only toys.
Take into account that great love and great achievementsinvolve great risk. –
Dalai Lama
KR Love at risk or love of the risk?
Science is organized knowledge. Wisdom is organized life.– Immanuel Kant
KR and knowledgeand wisdom confused for the 2nd time?
In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved,how gently you lived,
and how gracefully you let go of things not meant foryou. – Buddha
KR Mrthyunjaya mantra
K Rajaram IRS 8324 NB G ‘s good efforts seen but has a long way to go.
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From: 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2024 at 07:40
Subject: [iyer123] CULTURAL QA 03-2024-08A
To: Patty Thatha <[email protected]>, Kerala Iyer
<[email protected]>, Iyer <[email protected]>
CULTURALQA 03-2024-08A
All the below QA are from Quora DIGEST to me on 08-03-2024.
Selectedquora answers generally interesting including jokes are included. Still
they need not be 100% correct answers. I am only a compiler.
Compiled and posted by R. Gopala Krishnan, 80, on 08-03-2024.
Q1 Why doairplanes prefer to fly over the ocean?
A1 AmitSingh,Mar 2
Have you everwondered why your flight path curved over the ocean, even though
it seemed outof the way? It'sall about efficiency and safety, friends! Let's
dive into this fascinatingaspect of air travel.
Aircraft oftenfollow what's known as the "Great Circle" route. This mightlook
curved on a flat map, but it's actually the shortest distance between twopoints
on a globe. When you're traveling thousands of miles, following aGreat Circle
route saves time and fuel, even if it seems to curve oddly over theocean.
Plus, there's the added benefit of smoother rides.
Over the ocean, air tends to be less turbulent compared toover land, thanksto
the uniform temperature of the sea surface.
This means less bouncing around for you and your in-flightdrink! So, thenext
time you're on a plane, look out of the window and appreciate the oceanbeneath
- it's not just a pretty view, it's part of smart and efficientaviation.
Q2 What aresome of the most profound jokes ever?
A2 DavidPhelps, Jewish Mayflower Descendant11y
A man dies and goes to hell. Once there, he finds thatthere is a different hell
for each country, so he tries to seek out the leastpainful one.
At the door toGerman Hell, he is told: "First they put you in an electric chair
for an hour. Then theylay you on a bed of nails for another hour. Then the
German devil comes in and whips you for the restof the day."
He does not like the sound of that, so he checks outAmerican Hell, Russian Hell
and many more. They are all similarly gruesome. However, at Nigerian Hell a
longline of people is waiting to get in. Amazed, he asks, "What do they dohere?"
He is told: "First they put you in an electricchair for an hour. Then they lay
you on a bed of nails for another hour. Thenthe Nigerian devil comes in and
whips you for the rest of the day."
"But that's the same as the others," saysthe man. "Why are so many people
waiting to get in?"
"Becauseof the power cuts, the electric chair does not work. Thenails were paid
for but never supplied, so the bed is comfortable. Andthe Nigerian devil used
to bea civil servant, so he comes in, signs his time sheet and goes back home
forprivate business." Tolu Ogunlesi
Q3 What doDoctors know and I don't know but I should know?
A3 TinyNair, Cardiologist at PRS Hospital, Trivandrum4y
Declassified Secrets – for your eyes only
1.A suddencatastrophe, like an acute heart attack, is a life changing event for
mostpeople. Thetreatment like an angioplasty or bypass surgery is, no doubt,
life-saving;people get impressed by them; even flaunt the news around. Yes,
theseprocedures save life. But they do nothing; (I repeat: nothing) to
preventprogression of the disease that produced the block in the first place.
Thepatient needs to continue medicines (statins, aspirin and many more) life
long,at full dose, to prevent a recurrence.
2.Thereasons why the attack occurred in the first place, are a bunch of risk
factorslike hypertension,diabetes, highcholesterol levels and smoking. Majority
of people who ask us ‘why did Iget this attack? I have no such disease’
actually have mild levels of multiplerisk factors –
Fasting blood sugar between 110 to 126. (Impaired fasting glucose -IFG)
Mild hypertension – BP between 120/80 to 140/90
Mildly elevated LDL Cholesterol 100 to 130mg%
Smoking just 2 cigarettes per day.
Most people don’t even consider the above as riskfactors.
Combination of two or more of these ‘mild’ riskfactors increase the chance of a
heart attack several folds.
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3.Galelio Galileilived up to age 77 years age; Isaac newton 84 years;
Michelangelo 88 Years
All these people lived and died, much beforeintroduction of sanitation,
vaccinations, antibiotics, intensive care units,angioplasty or bypass surgery.
Modern medicine has not prolonged ourlife, just prevented early death.
4.Don’t bescared of medicines. Don’t haggle with your doctor every time asking
him to somehow reduce themedicines. Majority of them are, by far, quite safe
for most of us. A rarereaction makes headlines, but those millions who improve
don’t. The aim is toremain healthy and continue with our present lifestyle;
whether you are takingone tablet, or ten, doesn’t matter.
If you thought, doctors are supposed to know allthese; read the last one.
‘Doctor patients’ arethe ones, who are most difficult to treat; because they
ask us exactly thesesame questions :)
After all, when sickness strikes, we become mentallyfragile; even thestaunch,
‘die-hard’ non-believer start praying.
Q4 What are thewisest quotes you've ever heard or read?
A4 HafizSuboor, Feb 22
The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. – Socrates
You have your way. I have my way. As for the rightway, the correct way, and the
only way, it does not exist. – FriedrichNietzsche
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able toentertain a thought without
accepting it. – Aristotle
Do the difficult things while they are easy and dothe great things while they
are small. A journey of a thousand miles must beginwith a single step. – Lao Tzu
Waste no more time arguing about what a good man should be. Be one. –
MarcusAurelius
Happiness and freedom begin with one principle. Some things are within your
control and some are not. – Epictetus
So in everything, do to others as you would have themdo to you, for this sums
up the Law and the Prophets. – Jesus Christ
Never mistake knowledge for wisdom. One helps you make a living;the other helps
you make a life. – Sandra Carey
While we may not be able to control all that happensto us, we can control what
happens inside us. – Benjamin Franklin
The purpose of life is not to be happy. It is to be useful,to be honorable, to
be compassionate, to have it make some difference that you have lived andlived
well. – Ralph Waldo Emerson
The two most important days in your life are the dayyou are born and the day
you find out why. – Mark Twain
A man is but a product of his thoughts. What he thinks hebecomes. – Mahatma
Gandhi
The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling,but in rising again after
you fall. – Vince Lombardi
To improve is to change, so to be perfect is to havechanged often. – Winston
Churchill
The best and most beautiful things in the worldcannot be seen or even touched.
They must be felt with the heart. – HelenKeller
Your talent is God’s gift to you. What you do with itis your gift back to God.
– Leo Buscaglia
If you cannot do great things, do small things in agreat way. – Napoleon Hill
Life goes by very fast. And the worst thing in lifethat you can have is a job
that you hate, and have no energy and creativity in.– Robert Greene
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘Don’tquit. Suffer now and live
the rest of your life as a champion.’ – Muhammad Ali
Nobody can makeyou feel inferior without your permission. – Eleanor Roosevelt
It’s wise to learn from experience, but it is wiserto learn from the experience
of others. – Rick Warren
Don’t take life too seriously. You’ll never get outof it alive. – Elbert Hubbard
Take into account that great love and greatachievements involve great risk. –
Dalai Lama
Science is organized knowledge. Wisdom is organizedlife. – Immanuel Kant
In the end, only three things matter: how much youloved, how gently you lived,
and how gracefully you let go of things not meantfor you. – Buddha
Q5 What animalshave a stronger bite force than a great white shark, but
are not known to bedangerous to humans?
A5 JoeQuincy,B.A. in Ancient Artifacts, University of Hawaii Maui College
(Graduated2008)22h
My old neighborhad a parrot named Keith. He’d invite me over for beers and show
off all the stuff Keithcould bite through. Once I saw him snap a carpenter’s
pencil like a twig.
One day when Igot home from work, I saw my neighbor getting out of his car with
his handbandaged up. Hesaid he had a few too many beers and tried to get Keith
to bite through rebar. Keith got angry and took his left pinky finger off.
A month later I came home to see the same thing. Ithought surely there’s no way
this happened again. Lo and behold, he pissedKeith off and lost his left middle
finger.
I asked if it was safe to keep Keith anymore. He said hewasn’t taking anymore
chances and had set Keith free after the secondfinger. Somewhere in southern
Illinois there’s a large human-hating parrot on the loose with an incredible
bite force
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