WHERE THE VEDAS WILL NOT HELP
त्रैगुण्यविषया वेदा निस्त्रैगुण्यो भवार्जुन | निर्द्वन्द्वो नित्यसत्त्वस्थो निर्योगक्षेम आत्मवान् || 45||2 trai-guṇya-viṣhayā vedā nistrai-guṇyo bhavārjuna nirdvandvo nitya-sattva-stho niryoga-kṣhema ātmavān trai-guṇya—of the three modes of material nature; viṣhayāḥ—subject matter; vedāḥ—Vedic scriptures; nistrai-guṇyaḥ—above the three modes of material nature, transcendental; bhava—be; arjuna—Arjun; nirdvandvaḥ—free from dualities; nitya-sattva-sthaḥ—eternally fixed in truth; niryoga-kṣhemaḥ—unconcerned about gain and preservation; ātma-vān—situated in the self trai-gunya-vishaya veda nistrai-gunyo bhavarjuna nirdvandvo nitya-sattva-stho niryoga-kshema atmavan BG 2.45: The Vedas deal with the three modes of material nature, O Arjun. Rise above the three modes to a state of pure spiritual consciousness. Freeing yourself from dualities, eternally fixed in Truth, and without concern for material gain and safety, be situated in the self. Kr: Satva, rajas and thamo Gunas are the three dealt by Vedas; BG says that one shall ride above all the 3 gunas of the and above the Vedas; and ultimately as those who passed do not need LKG, where avivekis like Narayanasamy and co are studying, having failed, continuously without any improvements, passed ones, do not need any more Vedas, not told by KR, but by B G. In another place in BG also the same intonations are revealed. 2 In another B G here it is Bhaja Govindam, Adi Shankara says, भज गोविन्दं भज गोविन्दं गोविन्दं भज मूढमते । सम्प्राप्ते सन्निहिते काले नहि नहि रक्षति डुकृङ्करणे ॥ bhaja govindaṁ bhaja govindaṁ govindaṁ bhaja mūḍha-mate | samprāpte sannihite kale nahi nahi rakṣati ḍukr̥ṅkaraṇe || Worship Govinda, worship Govinda, Worship Govinda, oh deluded mind! At the time of your death, Rules of grammar will not save you. KR: No bookish Vedic knowledge will help you. They are of no use. 3 Sarva dharman Parityajya mom EKAM saranam vraja again the Bhagavat Gita; there is no use of all your Vedic learning since greater than Vedas exist who alone can save you. 4 Therefore, by learning Vedas and being only in LKG as AVIVEKI, all the time, may not help you in whatsoever manner; that means, to attain the Brahmam, all these are not required; even those who had no knowledge of these Vedas, can reach HIM. Only idiots like Narayanasamy and co will say “NOWHERE IT IS SAID” and get face painted black. You punch Narayanasami 100 times, yet he will not stop Kalyana parisu thangavel joke. BECAUSE N IS A BIG JOKER. For his age he shall teach all having researched the texts; but is able to write still slokas, that too a few; and calls himself a lawyer and some call him as Great. His words will speak about his character. A Narayana Buffoon limitation is exposed long ago; some of his close think he is great because, they are below par than him. Moodas appreciate only Moodas. Bye Narayana, again nose bleeding? Abuse more. K RAJARAM IRS 13224 ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2024 at 08:11 Subject: Re: [KeralaIyers] Re: [iyer123] QUOTE OF THE DAY To: Laxminarayan Sarma <[email protected]>, iyer < [email protected]>, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> Cc: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]>, Venkat Giri < [email protected]> Dear folks The savage anthropoid ape. just descended from the forest trees, who never attended a single day in even pre-primary school, does not know that the bhagavad-geetha is a miniscule part of a puranam, i.e. mahaa-bhaaratham, written by an illegitimate scion of a wandering caste-less ascetic who seduced a fisherman's adopted daughter whose grandmother was a fish. The upanishads, by contrast, are integral parts of r'g, yajur, and saama vedams, and are of divine origin. Nowhere is it said that "Vedas are not required as a renunciate." Far from it, the sanyaasi, upon entering that aashramam, is awarded a staff, a kamandalu, and a kaavi vasthram. He is instructed in the mahaa-vaakyams of the three vedas, and is solemnly required to meditate on them at all times. S Narayanaswamy Iyer On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 3:24 PM Laxminarayan Sarma < [email protected]> wrote: > *You mother-fucker son of a mangy bitch * > > *how dare you abuse Natayanaswamy* > > *Anna?* > > *Your worth is less than a billionth part * > > *of the minutest portion of Anna's * > > *Pubic Hair* > > > *Lick up Anna's shit you POLAYADI Pundey * > > *Apologise, you eunuch whore* > > > > > > > On Thu, 11 Apr, 2024, 10:06 am Narayanaswamy Iyer, <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> Dear folks >> >> No. >> >> Applaud the learned unmasker who exposed the fake emperor without clothes >> pole-dancing in the glare of the spotlights to the sound of drums and horns. >> >> S Narayanaswamy Iyer >> >> On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 12:07 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Ignore this idiot KR >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>> From: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> >>> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 at 22:44 >>> Subject: Re: [KeralaIyers] Re: [iyer123] QUOTE OF THE DAY >>> To: <[email protected]>, iyer <[email protected]>, >>> Venkat Giri <[email protected]>, Laxminarayan Sarma < >>> [email protected]>, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> >>> Cc: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> >>> Dear folks >>> >>> When advanced insanity and gross stupidity converge, mix and mingle, and >>> solidify in a calcified cerebrum, we get such outpourings of offal stench >>> as:- >>> >>> "*In BG and other upanishads it is said Vedas are not required as a >>> renunciate does not have so many things, which is mistakenly interpreted by >>> many as not to read etc; but once the entry through the gate is made in, >>> there is no exit the Vedas do believe.*" >>> >>> S Narayanaswamy Iyer >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 9:02 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> May I know which upanishad is saying so sir? What is self realisation >>>> of the west in English? Self is supposed to be an UNBORN jeevatma inside >>>> covered by EGO. Athatho brahma jijnasa: is the brahma sutram. One cannot >>>> compare any thing with another, unaware of both. So ideas must arise first. >>>> For that thought must arise. And for the thought mind shall capture the >>>> word or image. On the frame of mind alone action starts. Action creates >>>> the cause. Cause takes the idea to the effect. The inter exchange of cause >>>> and effect alone may lead to chaos. and that tsunami is the understanding >>>> of the brahmam the ekam when the Prakriti disappears. In short absence of >>>> the prakriti maya is the presence of the Purusha the ekam Brahmam. If one >>>> is there, he is no more here to express any of it. Till then all must >>>> preach the text as those preached the vedas and upanishads even before >>>> realisation. In BG and other upanishads it is said Vedas are not required >>>> as a renunciate does not have so many things, which is mistakenly >>>> interpreted by many as not to read etc; but once the entry through the gate >>>> is made in, there is no exit the Vedas do believe. So Vindavar kandilar; >>>> Kandavar Vindilar. K Rajaraam IRS 10424 >>>> >>>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 at 02:15, 'venkat giri' via iyer123 < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> [image: Inline image] >>>>> The self of the realized remains pure like pure water poured on to >>>>> pure water remains pure forever. The one who is able to understand >>>>> and knows the Self becomes immortal. The person who perceives this truth >>>>> and realizes that experience attains the state of Brahman even while >>>>> living. 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