sARAMA vedam;विद्या ददाति विनयं, विनयाद्याति पात्रताम्। पात्रत्वाद्धनमाप्नोति, धनाद्धर्मं ततः सुखम्॥
vidyā dadāti vinayaṃ, vinayādyāti pātratām। pātratvāddhanamāpnoti, dhanāddharmaṃ tataḥ sukham॥ On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 at 04:11, Laxminarayan Sarma < [email protected]> wrote: > *Very interesting! * > > *Dear Respected Narayanaswamy Anna* > > *Why do you even take cognuzance of * > > *the Thengalai Theru Chorian Patti.* > > *The IRS cleaner of mlechha-shut-filled* > > *public latrine is avatar of the tape worm * > > * infested porcine excreta, to be ignored * > > *Don't give the thevidiya pundai of* > > *a bastard born of a incestuous brother * > > *sister shag in a slum oublic latrine * > > *and delivered in the same shit - filled* > > *latrine is absolutely unworthy of even* > > *a moment's glance from a person * > > *of your eminence* > > *Beg of you, with folded hands, Anna* > > *write your best pieces, WITHOUT referring* > > *to this mother fucker* > > > > > On Sat, 27 Apr, 2024, 1:43 pm Narayanaswamy Iyer, <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> Dear folks >> >> As is his indelible incorrigible bad habit, would-be revolutionist and >> utter ignoramus K RAJARAM ex-IRS 27424 comes with blazing guns and >> flaming lies. >> >> "*The sanathana dharma is equal to all varnas , means all Varnas of the >> universes; means even where the sanathana dharma is not being entertained.* >> " >> >> My comments:- >> >> No. >> >> It is confined to knowledgeable Hindus only. >> >> (1) The 12 tribes of Israel, who pray to Jehovah the Revanchist, who >> smites with fire and brimstone those who break The Law, according to the >> Old Testament, >> >> (2) The Christians of hundreds of shades, fom Syrian, Greek, Russian, and >> Mar Thoma Syrian Orthodox, to Roman Catholic, Anglican, Methodist, >> Presbyterian, Lutheran, Baptist, Mormon, Seventh-Day Adventist, >> Episcopalian, Christian Scientist, Brethren, Coptic, Pentecost, Quakers, >> Amish, Mennonite, Moravian, Congregationalist, Apostolic, >> Jehovah's Witnesses, Calvinists, >> >> (3) The Shiites, the Sunnis, the Bahais, the Ahmaadis, the Sufis, and >> other sects of Islam, >> >> (4) The Buddhists, the Jains, the Sikhs, the Taoists, the Confucianists, >> the Shintoists, the worshippers of Karuppiah, Periya Karuppan, Chinna >> Karuppan, Muththu Karuppan, Muththu-maaree, Maariyaayee, Periya-atchee, >> Mathurai Veeran, >> >> (5) The hordes wandering the wastelands, the grasslands, the forests, >> the hills, the mountains, the riversides, the Pacific Rim islands, such as >> the Eskimos, the Red Indian tribes, the pigmies, the Negroes, the Sakai, >> the Semang, the Ibans, the Malukus, the Sulawesis, the Moros, the Borneo >> headhunters. >> >> None of these respect and follow, or even have heard of the much-vaunted >> sanathana dharmam. >> >> Moreover, there is blasphemy and corruption in almost every line of the >> purported translation by uneducated super-ignoramus K RAJARAM ex-IRS >> 27424 of the purusha sooktham. For example:- >> >> (1) *Bhagawan/ Maha Purusha who has countless heads, eyes and feet is >> omnipresent but looks compressed as a ten-inch measured Entity!* >> >> My comments:- Absolute trash and perfidy. The true translation is that >> the Purusha is ten FINGER-WIDTHS taller when standing on the Earth. >> >> >> And so on he goes, fumbling and stumbling, without understanding a word >> of the Sanskrit text but inventing his own absurdities impinging on his >> total lack of education but depending on scraps and torn pieces collected >> by the wayside. >> >> And broadcasting absolute rubbish as veda vaakyam. >> >> Remember, he hates, despises, condemns and insults ALL vaadhyaars. So he >> never attended a single veda-class where he could have learnt both Sanskrit >> and the meaning of Vedic words and phrases. >> >> Now he blows his foghorn, scattering dust and offal. >> >> S Narayanaswamy Iyer >> >> On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 1:20 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Varna Vidhana vide Purusha Suktam and Dharma Bindu >>> >>> KR: The sanathana dharma is equal to all varnas , means all Varnas >>> of the universes; means even where the sanathana dharma is not being >>> entertained including Indians, it is certainty that Veda confirms that the >>> pathway is universal. Hence by whatever religious name christened 8 billion >>> world population, yet all are brought out and held by sanathana dharma a >>> way of life one may choose or leave to or from adaptations; there is no >>> religion here; the only sync factor is ways are advocated which will lead >>> you kindly to relieve one from EGO and take safely towards the Moksha. >>> Hence casteism was never there; is not there; and will never be there at >>> all. No one is born on top or in any group at all; the lowest varna is >>> SHUDRA; below that are melechan, chandala are all not within Varnas, but >>> extradited by law to fix them as not belonging with in the 4 varnas at >>> all. There is no procedure of extradition except the word and the dictum; >>> hence there is no conversion process also; any one may enter and exit. Even >>> the worst sinners will be pardoned if they willingly surrender. Therefore, >>> all the learned had approached it from that point of view only; Sri >>> Ramanujar proved it; and ISCKAN is proving it; puranas are expanding the >>> illness of this society from every sensory aspects and rules are framed to >>> follow. Varnas are scientific, professionality, management concept and >>> sustenance of life if followed by every individual, without questing it >>> back. Purusha suktam must thus be interpreted; and Dr Ambedkar did it >>> though he had the EGO of his clan’s fate. Ambedkar warned about getting >>> entangled in Vedas without properly understanding it deeply; he wrote the >>> meaning in depth; he never said Varna is the caste; Vivekananda stressed >>> it, in 9 volumes of publications and blamed the HALF hearted kasi pundits. >>> We spoiled ourselves. Because we are the extremists; either Jihadis or >>> don’t care masters. Had we followed our grandfather footsteps carefully >>> understanding the preaching in the right earnest, we would not have been >>> placed in such misery today. Varnasrama Dharma is EGO control basis; as >>> long as one follows within the Grhya sutra adoptions of the territory, from >>> where we are all, originated, and follow the simple way of life, refining >>> the mind, lifting the clan towards the goal Mukti, which is universal, >>> without stress and enforcement, prarabdha karma is reduced. All the >>> Kaliyuga sins were in the Dvapara yuga, Treta yuga and least known life of >>> Kritha yuga also. So, falling into sin knowingly or unknowingly is not the >>> boiling point. How one can redeem from such acts and surrender, alone does >>> matter. B G stress that forcefully. Tirukkural enlightens it as the >>> writer’s name is Ganapati sastri whose name was branded as Tiruvalluar, >>> Valluva caste by the Dravidians for which there is no proof. On the >>> contrary evidentially it is proved by various kural why the Tirukkural is >>> Vedic and the author is only a brahmin. Now let’s see the dharmas: >>> >>> 1. Purusha Suktam >>> >>> 1) Sahasra Sirsha Purshah Sahasraakshah Sahasra paat, Sa Bhubim Vishvato >>> Vrutwaa Atyatishthaddashaagulam/ >>> >>> (Bhagawan/ Maha Purusha who has countless heads, eyes and feet is >>> omnipresent but looks compressed as a ten-inch measured Entity!) >>> >>> 2) Purusha ye Vedagum sarvam yadbhutam yaccha bhavyam, >>> Utaamritatwa--syeshaanah yadanney naa ti rohati/ >>> >>> ( He is and was always present submerging the past and the future and is >>> indestrucible and far beyond the ephemeral Universe) >>> >>> 3) Yetaavaa nasya Mahimaa Atojjyaaya -gumscha Puurushah, Paadosya Vishwa >>> Bhutaani Tripaadasya -amritam Divi/ >>> >>> ( What ever is visualised in the Creation is indeed a minute fraction >>> of His magnificence and what ever is compehensible is but a quarter of the >>> Eternal Unknown) >>> >>> 4)Tripaadurdhwa Udait Purushaha Paadosyehaa bhavaatpunah, Tato Vishvan >>> -gvyakraamat saashanaa nashaney abhi/ >>> >>> (Three-fourths of the Unknown apart, one fourth emerged as the Universe >>> and the Maha Purusha is manifested across the Totality of the Beings >>> including the animate and inanimate worlds) >>> >>> 5) Tasmaadwiraadajaayata ViraajoAdhi Puurushah, Sa jaato Atyarichyata >>> paschaadbhumimatho purah/ >>> >>> (From out of that Adi Purusha, the Brahmanda came into Existence and >>> Brahma spread himself all over and became Omni Present.Then He created >>> Earth and Life to Praanis.) >>> >>> 6)Yatpurushena havishaa Deva Yagna matanvata,,Vasanto Asyaaseedaajyam >>> Greeshma Idhmassharaddhavih/ >>> >>> ( The Yagna Karyas done by Devatas with Maha Purusha as the Aahuti >>> converted Vasanta Kaala as Ghee, Greeshma Kaala as Indhana or the wooden >>> pieces, and Sarat Kaala as Havi or Naivedya); >>> >>> 7)Saptaasyaasanparidhayah Trissapta Samidhah Kritaah, Devaad Yagnam >>> tanvaanaah Abadhnan Purusham Pashum/ >>> >>> (To this Yagna, Pancha Bhutaas of ‗Prithi-vyaapas-tejo- vaayura >>> akaashaas‘ and the Day and Night as the ‗Parithis‘ or the boundaries of the >>> Yagna Kunda; twenty one Tatwaas viz. Pancha Karmendriyas, Pancha >>> Jnaanendriyas, Pancha Bhutas, Three Ahamkaaras, Three Tanmatras of >>> Sprasha-Rupa-Rasa; and Mahatawa as Samidhaas; Devatas as Ritwiks and Brahma >>> as Yanga Pashu) >>> >>> 8)Tam Yagnam barhishi proukshan Purusham jaatama -gratah, Tena Devaa >>> Ayajanta Saadhyaa Rishayascha ye/ >>> >>> (All the Participants of the Yahna viz. Devas, Sadhyaas, Rishis and >>> such others perform the ‗Prokshana‘ or sprinkled the Sacred Water on the >>> Yagna Purusha and accomplished the Yagna); >>> >>> 9) Tasmaad yagnaat Sarvahutah Sambhrutam prushadaajyam, >>> Pashugstaagschakrey vaayavyaan Aranyaangraamaschaye/ >>> >>> ( In this Universal Yagna emerged ‗Dadhighrita‘ or Curd-Ghee Mix, Birds, >>> Ferocious and normal animals, and such others were crerated); >>> >>> 10) Tasmaadyagnaatsarva hutah Ruchassaamaani jajnirey, Chaandaagumsi >>> jajnirey tasmaat Yajustasmaa dajaayata/ >>> >>> (In this Prapancha Yagna were created Rig Veda Mantras, Sama Veda >>> Mantras, Gayatri and other Chaandasaas out of which Yajur Vedas too >>> emerged). >>> >>> 11) Tasmaad ashwaa Ajaayanta yekeycho bhayaadatah, Gaavo hajagjnirey >>> tasmaat tasmaa jyaataa Ajaavayah/ >>> >>> (From this Yagna were created horses, two lined teeth Mrigas, Pashus of >>> four legs like cattle, sheep and buffalos). >>> >>> 12) Yat Purusham vyadadhuh katidhaavyakalpayan, Mukham kimasya kou >>> baahoo kaavuuroo paadaavuchyetey/ >>> >>> ( As Devas made the Sacrifice of Brahma, of what all Forms were >>> manifested; of which type was His Face; of what kind were His hands and of >>> form were His thighs and Feet?) >>> >>> 13) Brahmanosya Mukhamaaseet Baahoo Raajanyah krutah, Vooroo tadasya >>> yadvyshyahi Padbhyaagum Shudro Aajaayata/ >>> >>> (From the Lord‘s face emerged Brahmanas, His hands came Kshatriyas, His >>> thighs the Vaishyas and His feet the Shudras); >>> >>> 14) Chandramaa Manaso jaatah Chaksho Suryo Ajaayatam, >>> Mukhaadindraaschaagnischa Praanaadvaayurajaayata/ >>> >>> (From His Mind was manifested Chandra Deva, His eyes Surya Deva, His >>> face Indra and Agni and from His Prana the Vayu Deva); >>> >>> 15) Naabhyaa aaseedantariksham Seershno Dhyoh Samavartata, Padbhyaam >>> Bhumir-dishaha Shrotraat tataa Lokaagum Akalpayan/ >>> >>> (From the Lord‘s navel came out the ‗Antariksha‘, His Head the Swarga, >>> His Feet the Earth, Dishas or Directions from His Ears; and likewise the >>> various Lokaas); >>> >>> 16)Vedaahametam Purusham Mahaantam, Aditya Varnam Tamasastupaarey, >>> Sarvaani Rupaani Vichitya Dheerah Naamaani krutwaabhivadan yadaastey/ >>> >>> ( Thus I have realised that Paramatma manifested Himself in innumerable >>> Forms and nomenclatures and that He is a Kaarya- shila or of >>> Practicalities, Mahimanvita or of Undefinable Grandeur, the Ever Lustrous >>> Sun-Like Appearance or of Innner Consciousness far away from Darkness or >>> Agjnaana); >>> >>> 17) Dhaataa purastaa –dyamuhaa jahaara Shakrah pravidwaan >>> padishaschatasrha, Tamevam Vidwaanamrita iha bhavati Naanyah pandhaa >>> Ayanaaya Vidyatey/ >>> >>> ( It is that illustrious and knowledgeable person possessive of the >>> Supreme Awareness realising Paramatma and recognises and visualises Indra >>> and other Dishaa -dhipaas that is qualified to attain Mukti; indeed there >>> is no other route to Moksha!) >>> >>> 18)Yagnena Yagnamayajanta Devaah Taani Dharmaani Prathamaanyaasan, tey >>> ha naakam Mahi Maanah sachantey yatra purvey Saadhyaah santi Devaah/ >>> >>> (Devataas came to worship Paramatma by means of this Yagna and assumed >>> the Primary Forms of Manifestations of Dharma; The intial and arduous >>> procedures of Dharma that were assiduously practised by Devatas and >>> Sadhyaas came to the Guidelines and whosoever followed the Regulations like >>> performing Yagnas are competent to achieve higher Lokas.) >>> >>> 19) Adbhyah sambhutaha Prithivyairasaascha Vishva karmanah >>> samavartataatdhi tasya, Twashtaa Vidadhadrupameti tatpurushasya Vishva >>> -ajanamagrey/ >>> >>> ( As the Universe got manifested from water and the Essence of Bhumi, >>> Paramatma creatred Brahma and the latter created the Universe. That Brahma >>> filled in the Fourteen Lokas and thus the whole Creation is the handi- work >>> of Brahma!) >>> >>> 20)Vedaaha meham Purusham Mahaantam Aditya Varnam tamasah parastaat , >>> Tamevam Vidwanamrita iha bhavati naanyah pandhaa Vidyateya -naaya/ >>> >>> ( If any person could realise that Supreme Soul who is too magnificent >>> to vision like Surya much less to visualise then he is as good as Paramatma >>> Himself; that is the way to attainment and the the path of Glory and >>> Moksha.) >>> >>> 21)Prajaapatischarati garbhey Antah Ajaaya-maano bahudhaavija -atey >>> tasya, Dheeraah parijaa -nanti yonim Mareecheenaam padamicchanti vedhasah/ >>> >>> ( Paramatma is reputed as a highly action-oriented Splendrous and >>> Supreme Being who has neither beginning or termination. Mahaatmas and >>> Maharshis like Marichi are indeed aware of His Accurate Form and crave and >>> toil to Attain Him) >>> >>> 22) Yo Devebhya Aatapati yo Devaa -naam Purohitah, Purvoyo Devebhoy >>> Jaatah Namo Ruchaa Braahmaye/ >>> >>> ( May I prostrate before the hallow of that Paramatma who illuminates >>> Devas, whom Devas earnestly consider in the highest esteem as they are but >>> His own reflections and who is the Eternal and Singular Truth). >>> >>> 23) Rucham Braahmam janayantah Devaa Agrey tadabruvan, Yasthyai -vam >>> Brahmano idvaat tasya Asan vashey. >>> >>> ( As Devas made great endeavours to understand an inkling of what >>> Paramatma was all about as they could never get even some clues initially, >>> then Devas realised that whosoever among the Devotees >>> >>> similarly made enormous efforts to execute genuine quests about Him >>> should automatically obtain their control mechanism too.) >>> >>> 24 )Hreesha tey Lakshmischa Patnou Aho raatrey paarsvey Nakshatraani >>> Rupam Ashvinou vyaattham/ >>> >>> (Hey Vishnu Bhagavan! Your ‗Ardhaanganis‘ or ‗Better Halves‘ are Hree >>> Devi the Symbol of Modesty and Lakshmi Devi the Emblem of Prosperity are >>> your side manifestations of ‗Ahoraatraas‘ or day and night. The Nakshatraas >>> constitute your Celestial Formation. And Ashvini Devatas are the full >>> visage of yours as flower blooms!) >>> >>> 25) Ishtam Nanishaana Amum Manishaana Sarvam manishaana, Om taccham >>> yoraavrinee Mahey/ >>> >>> (Bhagavaan! We beseech your kindness and grace a to grant us the >>> bestowing of successful and worthwhile fulfilment of our Iham and Param ; >>> Bhagavan!) 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