Yourself Gopala If you want add your son and son in law and the rest also KR

On Wed, 15 May 2024 at 10:05, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote:

> *Who is LKG? Your son? Your son in law?*
>
> Address properly Mr Rajaram. Address with manners and decorum. It is a
> *WARNING*. Are you really a retired IRS?
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> On Wednesday, 15 May, 2024 at 08:24:25 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> My dear L K G
>      Confusion is after all in your mind only ; when read across many
> vedantic books, (unlike you and Narayanasamy along that Sarama the great
> Dog who  do not do any such thing but open thy mouth to write only utter
> nonsenses)  we find variations in the narrations across the country when
> there were no books , but only sruthi, who might have held names and titles
> , as they could have received, yet we are supposed to view what are the
> matter in there. It doesn't matter to confine oneself, as said either by K
> Rajaram IRS or K Rajaram. The content unopposable with any relevant
> evidence but only through the idiotic mockery, are differentiated from
> whether Memi is king or sage or as vishwamitra turned sage to a king or
> King to asage etc. This shows your class.
>      There are 2 quotes from my write up out of which one you yourself
> repeated it but failed to read fully:
> 1  There is a passage in the Mahābhārata in which Atri gives advice to
> the emperor Nimi who belonged to Atri’s family. The story of how Śrāddha
> originated in the world which Bhīṣma had told Dharmaputra was retold by
> Atri. A son named Dattātreya was born to Atri, the son of Brahmā. Dattātreya
> became King. Nimi was his son. Nimi’s son died after one thousand years.
> Nimi who was in deep grief at the death of his son, ordained a Śrāddha in
> memory of his son. On that occasion Atri Maharṣi came there and explained
> to Nimi the importance of Śrāddha. (Mahābhārata, Anuśāsana Parva, Chapter
> 91, Verses 20-44)
> 2   [Considerable variety prevails in this list of Prajāpatis,
> Brahmaputras, Brāhmanas, or Brahmarṣis; *but the variations are of the
> nature of additions made to an apparently original enumeration of but
> seven, whose names generally recur.*
> Had you been well read or have the sincerity of purpose, you would not
> have written how you were confused. Thank you.
> Now from Valmiki Ramayanam: Uttar kanda (which is again controversial)
>
> Chapter 55 - The Story of Nimi Book 7 - Uttara-kanda
> <https://www.wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/the-ramayana-of-valmiki/d/doc424761.html>
>
> I have related the cursing of Nriga
> <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/nriga#purana> in detail but, if you
> so desires, listen to the following story!”
>
> On this, Saumitri <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/saumitri#purana>
>  said:—
>
> “I never tire of hearing these marvellous tales, O King!”
>
> Thus spoke Lakshmana
> <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/lakshmana#purana>, and Rama
> <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/rama#purana>, the Joy of the
> Ikshvakus <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/ikshvaku#purana>, began
> to recount many exceedingly instructive legends, saying
>
> “There was once a king named Nimi
> <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/nimi#purana>, the twelfth son of
> the magnanimous offspring of the Ikshvakus and he was full of courage and
> truth. That highly valorous monarch founded a beautiful city, resembling
> that of the Gods, in the vicinity of Gautama
> <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/gautama#purana>’s hermitage, and
> the name of that city was Vaijanta! It served as the residence of the royal
> Sage Nimi and, while he dwelt in that vast capital, he reflected ‘I will
> perform a great sacrifice to gratify my sire!’
>
> “Having invited his father, Ikshvaku
> <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/ikshvaku#purana>, the son of Manu
> <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/manu#purana>, he first welcomed
> Vasishtha <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/vasishtha#purana>, the
> foremost of Rishis <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/rishi#purana>; 
> thereafter
> the Rajarishi <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/rajarishi#purana>
>  Nimi, the Joy of Ikshvaku, invited Atri
> <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/atri#purana>, Angira
> <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/angira#purana> and also Bhrigu
> <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/bhrigu#purana>, that treasury of
> asceticism.
>
> “Meanwhile Vasishtha said to Nimi, the foremost of royal Sages:—
>
> ‘I am already pledged to Indra
> <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/indra#purana>, therefore wait for
> me till his sacrifice is completed.’
>
> “Soon afterwards, the great ascetic Gautama undertook the sacrifice [i.e.,
> In Vasishtha’s place] whilst the mighty Vasishtha was officiating at
> Indra’s ceremony.
>
> “King Nimi, that foremost of men, having assembled the brahmins,
> celebrated a sacrifice in the vicinity of his city on the side of the
> Himavat <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/himavat#purana> Mountain,
> its term exceeding five thousand years.
>
> “Indra’s sacrifice being completed, the blessed and irreproachable Sage
> Vasishtha returned to the king and offered himself as officiating priest.
> Observing that Gautama had, in the interval, filled that office, Vasishtha
> was transported with rage and, anxious to behold the king, sought out the
> monarch, but that day he lay in a deep sleep and the fury of the
> magnanimous Vasishtha burst forth anew, so that he began to curse the king,
> who was unaware of his presence there, saying:—
>
> “‘Since you didst choose another and have failed to treat me with due
> respect, O King, your body will be rendered lifeless!’
>
> “Thereupon the king awoke and, hearing the curse pronounced against him,
> in a transport of rage, said to the son of Brahma
> <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/brahma#purana>:—
>
> “‘When I was unconscious and asleep, you, beside thyself with anger, hast
> subjected me to the fire of your wrath like unto the Rod of Yama
> <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/yama#purana>! For this, be assured
> your body too, O Brahmarishi, shall be bereft of sensation for a long time.’
>
> “Thus both dominated by anger, the foremost of kings and the chief of the
> ascetics, mutually cursed one another and they, whose powers were equal to
> the Gods, were both instantly deprived of their bodies.”
>
>
> WAS JANAKA RAJA RISHI OR KING?   K Rajaram  IRS  15524  NB  what is the
> use of reading as you have written at the end?
>
> On Wed, 15 May 2024 at 01:45, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Mr Rajaram,
>
> I could not control my laugh on reading your lines- "ALL THESE DO HAPPEN
> ONLY BECAUSE ALL YOU SENIORS ARE SITTING ACROSS WITH THE CROSSED FINGERS, 
> *COME
> WHAT MAY WHETHER RULED BY RAMA OR RAVANA ATTITUDE".*
>
> You have written in detail- still doubt arises about the beginning of
> death ceremoney.
>
> *"Atri and Śrāddha.*
> There is a passage in the Mahābhārata in which Atri gives advice to the
> emperor Nimi who belonged to Atri’s family. The story of how Śrāddha
> originated in the world which Bhīṣma had told Dharmaputra was retold by
> Atri. A son named Dattātreya was born to Atri, the son of Brahmā.
> Dattātreya became King. Nimi was his son. Nimi’s son died after one
> thousand years. Nimi who was in deep grief at the death of his son,
> ordained a Śrāddha in memory of his son. On that occasion Atri Maharṣi
> came there and explained to Nimi the importance of Śrāddha. (Mahābhārata,
> Anuśāsana Parva, Chapter 91, Verses 20-44)
>
> This paragraph is  totally confusing. Whether emperor  Nimi and sage Nimi
> are different?
> In this passage it is told Atri explains the importance of srardha.
> In another context you wrote sage NIMI  was first who performed  death
> ceremonies to his son *at his own thinking.* Is it not confusing?
> Before writing to you I have made google searches about sage Nimi and
> emperor Nimi.
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> On Wednesday, 15 May, 2024 at 06:59:20 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>  RUBBISH COMMENTS OF THE TARNISHED AND TAINTED NARAYANASAMY WRT SRADDHAM
>
> EVEN THOUGH USELESS WORDS OF HIM YET NEEDS  PUNCHES ON HIS FACE AS ADDENDA
>
> K RAJARAM IRS  14524//15524
>
> Dear MEMEBERS
>
> One can always expect a congenital liar LIKE Narayanasamy  to continue to
> lie, even when it concerns sacred customs such as pithru-karmas.  To him
> the more outrageous and humongous the lie, the better he thinks it will be
> believed.SO THE AVIVEKI MUST BE STRONGLY HAMMERED EVEN IF HE CONTINUES TO
> BLUFF.
>
> (1)  "Sradham was not in the initial stage at all as Bhishma tells in
> Anusasana parva and came to this world Only from Rishi NIMI who did it to
> HIS SON who preceded him. So doing the sradham started ONLY FROM SENIOR
> DOING TO JUNIOR."
>
> (2)  "Bhishma said, "From the Self-born Brahman sprang Atri, O you of
> Kuru’s race. In Atri’s race was born a Muni of the name of Dattatreya.
> Dattatreya got a son of the name of Nimi possessed of wealth of asceticism.
> Nimi got a son named Srimat who was endued with great beauty of person.
> Upon the expiration of a full thousand years, Srimat, having undergone the
> severest austerities, succumbed to the influence of Time and departed from
> this world. His sire Nimi, having performed the Purificatory rites
> according to the ritual laid down in the ordinance, became filled with
> great grief, thinking continually of the loss of his son. Thinking of that
> cause of sorrow the high-souled Nimi collected together various agreeable
> objects (of food and drink) on the fourteenth day of the moon. The next
> morning he rose from bed. Pained his heart was with grief, as he rose from
> sleep that day—he succeeded in withdrawing it from the one object upon
> which it had been working. ....... With concentrated attention he then
> conceived the idea of a Sraddha. ......... On the day of the New moon he
> invited a number of adorable Brahmanas (to his asylum). Possessed of great
> wisdom, Nimi caused them to be seated on seats (of Kusa grass) and honoured
> them by going around their persons. Approaching seven such Brahmanas whom
> he had brought to his abode together, the puissant Nimi gave unto them food
> consisting Syamaka rice, unmixed with salt. Towards the feet of those
> Brahmanas engaged in eating the food that was served unto them a number of
> Kusa blades was spread out on the seats they occupied, with the top ends of
> the blades directed towards the south.  Nimi, having placed those blades of
> sacred grass in the way indicated, offered cakes of rice unto his dead son,
> uttering his name and family.  Having done this, Nimi became filled with
> regret at the idea of having achieved an act that had not (to his
> knowledge) been laid down in any of the scriptures.  Indeed, filled with
> regret he began to think of what he had done......... 'He then thought of
> the original progenitor of his race. As soon as he was thought of, Atri
> came there. Beholding him exceedingly afflicted with grief on account of
> the death of his son, the immortal Atri comforted him with agreeable
> counsels. He said unto him, 'O Mini, this act that had not (to his
> knowledge) been laid down in any of the scriptures. Indeed, filled with
> regret he began to think of what he had done.[' He then thought of the
> original progenitor of his race. As soon as he was thought of, Atri came
> there. Atri comforted him with agreeable counsels. He said unto him, 'O
> Mini, this rite that you have conceived, is a sacrifice in honour of the
> Pitris.'
>
> Narayanasamy blabber:
>
> This incident purports to have occurred towards the end of the dvaapara
> yuga and just before the beginning of the kali yuga, when Bheeshma was a
> guru of both the Kurus and the Pandavaas.  There are too many blatant
> contradictions for the fairy tale to be believed: -
>
> KR   What nonsense this guy speaks?  Has he turned lunatic? If Anushasana
> parva is a fairy tale ridden with blatant contradictions, then does he mean
> that Mahabharatham is a hoax? Does he know the difference between a fairy
> tale and Epic golden? ALL THESE DO HAPPEN ONLY BECAUSE ALL YOU SENIORS ARE
> SITTING ACROSS WITH THE CROSSED FINGERS, COME WHAT MAY WHETHER RULED BY
> RAMA OR RAVANA ATTITUDE.
>
> N (1)    Who says that Athri was a son of Lord Brahma?  Were not the Sanat
> Kumaras and Naarada mind-sons of the deity?
>
> KR:
>
> The Vishnu Purana   Chapter VII - Production of the mind-born sons of
> Brahma Book I
>
> Creation continued. Production of the mind-born sons of Brahmā; of the
> Prajāpatis; of Sanandana and others; of Rudra and the eleven Rudras; of the
> Manu Svāyambhuva, and his wife Śatarūpā; of their children. The daughters
> of Dakṣa, and their marriage to Dharma and others. The progeny of Disarms
> and Adharma. The perpetual succession of worlds, and different modes of
> mundane dissolution.
>
> Parāśara said:—
>
> From Brahmā, continuing to meditate, were born mind-engendered progeny,
> with forms and faculties derived from his corporeal nature; embodied
> spirits, produced from the person of that all-wise deity. All these beings,
> front the gods to inanimate things, appeared as I have related to you,
> being the abode of the three qualities: but as they did not multiply
> themselves, Brahmā created other mind-born sons, like himself; namely,
> Bhrigu, Pulastya, Pulaha, Kratu, Aṅgiras, Marīci, Dakṣa, Atri, and
> Vaśiṣṭha: these are the nine Brahmas (or Brahma ṛṣis) celebrated in the
> Purāṇas  {
>
> [Considerable variety prevails in this list of Prajāpatis, Brahmaputras,
> Brāhmanas, or Brahmarṣis; *but the variations are of the nature of
> additions made to an apparently original enumeration of but seven, whose
> names generally recur.* Thus in the Mahābhārata, Mokṣa Dharma, we have in
> one place, Marīci, Atri, Aṅgiras, Pulastya, Pulaha, Kratu, and Vaśiṣṭha,
> ‘the seven high-minded sons of the self-born Brahmā.’ In another place of
> the same, however, we have Dakṣa substituted for Vaśiṣṭha, but ATRI REMAINS
> : ‘Brahmā then created mind-begotten sons, of whom Dakṣa was the seventh,
> with Marīci,’ &c.
>
> These seven sons of Brahmā are also identified with the seven Ṛṣis as in
> the Vāyu; although, with palpable inconsistency, eight are immediately
> enumerated, or, Bhrigu, Marīci, Atri, Aṅgiras, Pulastya, Pulaha, Kratu,
> and Vaśiṣṭha. The Uttara Khanda of the Padma P. substitutes Kardama for
> Vaśiṣṭha.
>
> The Bhāgavata includes Dakṣa, enumerating nine.
>
> Matsya agrees with Manu in adding Nārada to the list of our text.
>
> The Kūrma P. adds Dharma and Saṅkalpa.
>
> The Liṅga, Brahmāṇḍa, and Vāyu P. also add them, and extend the list to
> Adharma and Ruci.
>
> The Hari Vaṃśa in one place inserts Gautama, and p. 50 in another Manu.
> Altogether therefore we have seventeen, instead of seven.{BUT ATRI IS
> CONSTANT IN ALL THE ABOVE AND SO WHO SAYS WHO SAYS SO NARAYANA?} But the
> accounts given of the origin of several of these, shew that they were not
> originally included amongst the Mānasa putras, or sons of Brahmā's mind;
> for even Dakṣa, who finds a place in all the lists except one of those
> given in the Mahābhārata, is uniformly said to have sprung from Brahmā's
> thumb: and the same patriarch, as well as Dharma, is included in some
> accounts, as in the Bhāgavata and Matsya P., amongst a different series of
> Brahmā's progeny, or virtues and vices;
>
>  or, Dakṣa (dexterity), Dharma (virtue), Kāma (desire), Krodha (passion),
> Lobha (covetousness), Moha (infatuation), Mada (insanity), Pramoda
> (pleasure), Mrityu (death), and Aṅgaja (lust). These are severally derived
> from different parts of Brahmā's body: and the Bhagāvata, adding Kardama
> (soil or sin) to this enumeration, makes him spring from Brahmā's shadow.
> The simple statement, that the first Prajāpatis sprang from the mind or
> will of Brahmā, has not contented the depraved taste of the mystics, and in
> some of the Purāṇas, as the Bhāgavata, Liṅga, and Vāyu, they also are
> derived from the body of their progenitor; or, Bhrigu from his skin, Marīci
> from his mind, Atri from his eyes, Aṅgiras from his mouth, Pulastya from
> his ear, Pulaha from his navel, Kratu from his hand, Vaśiṣṭha from his
> breath, Dakṣa from his thumb, and Nārada from his hip. They do not exactly
> agree, however, in the places whence these beings proceed; as for instance,
> according to the Liṅga, Marīci springs from Brahmā's eyes, not Atri, who
> there proceeds, instead of Pulastya, from his ears. The Vāyu has also
> another account of their origin, and states them to have sprung from the
> fires of a sacrifice offered by Brahmā; an allegorical mode of expressing
> their probable original, considering them to be in some degree real
> persons, from the Brahmanical ritual, of which they were the first
> institutors and observers. The Vāyu P. also states, that besides the seven
> primitive Ṛṣis, the Prajāpatis are numerous, and specifies Kardama,
> Kaśyapa, Śeṣa, Vikrānta, Susravas, Bahuputra, Kumāra, Vivaswat,
> Suchisravas, Prācetasa (Dakṣa), Aṛṣṭanemi, Bahula. These and many others
> were Prajāpatis. In the beginning of the Mahābhārata (A. P.)
>
> we have again a different origin, and first Dakṣa, the son of Pracetas, it
> is said, had seven sons, after whom the twenty-one Prajāpatis were born, or
> appeared. According to the commentator, the seven sons of Dakṣa were the
> allegorical persons Krodha, Tamas, Dama, Vikrita, Aṅgiras, Kardama, and
> Aswa; and the twenty-one Prajāpatis, the seven usually specified Marīci and
> the rest, and the fourteen Manus. This looks like a blending of the earlier
> and later notions.]. Sanandana and the other sons of Brahmā were previously
> created by him, but they were without desire or passion, inspired with holy
> wisdom, estranged from the universe, and undesirous of progeny. This when
> Brahmā perceived, he was filled with wrath capable of consuming the three
> worlds, the flame of which invested, like a garland, heaven, earth, and
> hell. Then from his forehead, darkened with angry frowns, sprang Rudra
> radiant as the noon-tide sun, fierce, and of vast bulk, and of a figure
> which was half male, half female. Separate yourself, Brahmā said to him;
> and having so spoken, disappeared. Obedient to which command, Rudra became
> twofold, disjoining his male and female natures. His male being he again
> divided into eleven persons, of whom some were agreeable, some hideous,
> some fierce, some mild; and he multiplied his female nature manifold, of
> complexions black or white.
>
>
>
> Then Brahmā created himself the Manu Svāyambhuva, born of, and identical
> with, his original self, for the protection of created beings; and the
> female portion of himself he constituted Śatarūpā, whom austerity purified
> from the sin (of forbidden nuptials), and whom the divine Manu Svāyambhuva
> took to wife. From these two were born two sons, Priyavrata and Uttānapāda,
> and two daughters, named Prasūti and Ākūti, graced with loveliness and
> exalted merit. Prasūti he gave to Dakṣa, after giving Ākūti to the
> patriarch Ruci, who espoused her. Ākūti bore to Ruci twins, Yajña and
> Dakṣinā, who afterwards became husband and wife, and had twelve sons, the
> deities called Yāmas, in the Manvantara of Svāyambhuva.
>
>
>
> The patriarch Dakṣa had by Prasūti twenty-four daughters: hear from me
> their names: Sraddhā (faith), Lakṣmī (prosperity), Dhriti (steadiness),
> Tuṣṭi (resignation), Puṣṭi (thriving), Medhā (intelligence), Krīyā (action,
> devotion), Buddhi (intellect), Lajjā (modesty), Vapu (body), Sānti
> (expiation), Siddhi (perfection), Kīrtti (fame): these thirteen daughters
> of Dakṣa, Dharma (righteousness) took to wife. The other eleven bright-eyed
> and younger daughters of the patriarch were, Khyāti (celebrity), Sati
> (truth), Sambhūti (fitness), Smriti (memory), Prīti (affection), Kṣamā
> (patience), Sannati (humility), Anasūyā (charity), Ūrjjā (energy), with
> Svāhā (offering), and Swadhā (oblation). These maidens were respectively
> wedded to the Munis, Bhrigu, Bhava, Marīci, Aṅgiras, Pulastya, Pulaha,
> Kratu, Atri, and Vaśiṣṭha; to Fire (Vahni), and to the Pitris (progenitors).
>
>
>
> The progeny of Dharma by the daughters of Dakṣa were as follows: by
> Sraddhā he had Kāma (desire); by Lakṣmī, Darpa (pride); by Dhriti, Niyama
> (precept); by Tuṣṭi, Santoṣa (content); by Puṣṭi, Lobha (cupidity); by
> Medhā, Sruta (sacred tradition); by Kriyā, Daṇḍa, Naya, and Vinaya
> (correction, polity, and prudence); by Buddhi, Bodha (understanding); by
> Lajjā, Vinaya (good behaviour); by Vapu, Vyavasaya (perseverance). Sānti
> gave birth to Kṣema (prosperity); Siddhi to Sukha (enjoyment); and Kīrtti
> to Yasas (reputation. These were the sons of Dharma; one of whom, Kāma, had
> Hersha (joy) by his wife Nandi (delight).
>
>
>
> The wife of Adharma (vice) was Hinsā (violence), on whom he begot a son
> Anrita (falsehood), and a daughter Nikriti (immorality): they intermarried,
> and had two sons, Bhaya (fear) and Naraka (hell); and twins to them, two
> daughters, Māyā (deceit) and Vedanā (torture), who became their wives. The
> son of Bhaya and Māyā was the destroyer of living creatures, or Mrityu
> (death); and Dukha (pain) was the offspring of Naraka and Vedanā. The
> children of Mrityu were Vyādhi (disease), Jarā (decay), Soka (sorrow),
> Tṛṣṇa (greediness), and Krodha (wrath). These are all called the inflictors
> of misery, and are characterised as the progeny of Vice (Adharma). They are
> all without wives, without posterity, without the faculty to procreate;
> they are the terrific forms of Viṣṇu, and perpetually operate as causes of
> the destruction of this world. On the contrary, Dakṣa and the other Ṛṣis,
> the elders of mankind, tend perpetually to influence its renovation: whilst
> the Manus and their sons, the heroes endowed with mighty power, and
> treading in the path of truth, as constantly contribute to its preservation.
> If the Atri is a fairy tale then how his claim is a true tale? And why not
> all the Vedas and samskaras are also ONLY FAIRY TALES? And Narayanasamy is
> also only a fairy? Can this person be called REV? and a few have regards to
> a stupid?
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> (2)  What proof is there that Athri's descendant was Dattatreya whose
> descendant was Nimi whose descendant was Srimat who lived a full thousand
> years before he died?
>
> THERE IS A MOODAN ON THE EARTH; HE ALWAYS PRETENDS HE KKNEW BUT DOES NOT.
> BUT HIS AVIVEKAM SHALL NOT BE DISCLOSED TO THE SOCIETY. SO WHAT WILL HE DO?
> HE WILL ASK THE LEARNED TO SAY AND HE WILL CHECK WHETHERE RECITED
> CORRECTLY. THAT KIND OF MOODAN IS NARAYANASAMY.
>
> Story of Atri   The son of Brahmā.
>
> Atri Maharṣi was one of the mānasaputras of Brahmā. The mānasaputras were:
> Marīci, Aṅgiras, Atri, Pulastya, Pulaha, and Kratu (Mahābhārata, Ādi Parva,
> Chapter 65, Verse 10).
>
> One of the Saptarṣis.
>
> Brahma’s sons, Marīci, Aṅgiras, Atri, Pulastya, Pulaha, Kratu and Vasiṣṭha
> are known as the Saptarṣis (seven sages). (Mahābhārata, Śānti Parva,
> Chapter 208).
>
> Creator of the pracetases.
>
> The sage Prācīnabarhis was born in the family of Atri Maharṣi. Ten
> Pracetases (Prajāpatis) were born as the sons of this Muni. (Mahābhārata,
> Śakti Parva, Chapter 208).
>
> Citra Śikhaṇḍī.
>
> Among the seven Munis known as Citra Śikhaṇḍīs, we see Atri Maharṣi as one
> of the Aṣṭaprakṛtis which form the basis of the Universe.
>
> Important events.
>
> (1) How Mahāviṣṇu became Atri’s son. Kaśyapa had a son named Kaśipu. He
> was a very mighty ruler and carried on his reign in an ungodly manner. In a
> terrible battle which took place at that time between the Devas and Asuras
> Kaśipu was killed. Prahlāda became the Asura King. Then there was a battle
> between Indra and Prahlāda. After six years' war, Prahlāda withdrew,
> defeated. Later Mahābali, the son of Virocana (grandson of Prahlāda) became
> emperor of Asuras. War broke out again between Mahābali and Indra. In this
> war, Mahāviṣṇu helped Indra. The Asuras were utterly defeated. They sought
> refuge with Śukra, the Asura guru. Śukra promised to help them. He set out
> to the Himālayas to receive a powerful mantra from Śiva. The Asuras kept
> waiting for Śukra’s return.
>
> At this stage, Mahāviṣṇu who was the protector of Indra, came to Śukra’s
> āśrama and killed Śukra’s mother, Kāvyamātā. Seeing this impudence of
> Mahāviṣṇu, Bhṛgu Maharṣi was enraged and cursed him that he should be born
> many times in human wombs. It is on account of this that Mahāviṣṇu had to
> take many avatāras (incarnations). It was in this way that Mahāviṣṇu
> incarnated as Dattātreya, the son of Atri. (Devī Bhāgavata, 4th Skandha).
>
> Atri and Parāśara.
>
> It was a time when Vasiṣṭha and Viśvāmitra were in a state of mutual
> ill-will. Once King Kalmāṣapāda was going about in the forest on a hunting
> expedition. He met Śakti, the eldest son of Vasiṣṭha in the forest. The
> King did not respect him properly. Śakti transformed Kalmāṣapāda into a
> Rākṣasa by his curse. The Rākṣasa who was also a cannibal, first swallowed
> Śakti himself. Viśvāmitra offered whatever help he could, to destroy
> Vasiṣṭha’s family. Kalmāṣapāda ate successively all the 100 sons of
> Vasiṣṭha. Vasiṣṭha, in great sorrow and Sakti’s wife, Adṛśyantī lived in an
> āśrama. Adṛśyantī was pregnant at the time of Śakti’s death. In due course
> she gave birth to a boy who was called Parāśara and who later on became the
> father of Vyāsa. when Parāśara grew up, he came to know that his father
> Śakti was eaten by the Rākṣasa. Enraged at this, he started a yajña to
> annihilate the whole race of Rākṣasas. As the yajña gained intensity and
> force Atri Muni arrived there with certain other Maharṣis and dissuaded
> Parāśara from the yajña. (Mahābhārata, Ādi Parva, Chapter 181).
>
> Atri’s dispute with Vainya.
>
> Atri Maharṣi and his wife once got ready to go for Vanavāsa. At that time
> the poor Maharṣi’s wife was in great distress because they had no money to
> be distributed to their disciples and children. She requested her husband
> to go to King Vainya and to beg for some money. Accordingly the Maharṣi
> visited King Vainya at his yāgaśālā (The shed where a yāga is held). He
> began to flatter Vainya by saying that he was the first among kings and so
> on. Vainya did not like it. He began to dispute with Atri. Vainya remarked
> that Indra was the first King. To settle the dispute they went together to
> Sanatkumāra Muni. Sanatkumāra sent them away reconciled. After that Vainya
> gave Atri much wealth. After distributing all this wealth among their sons
> and disciples Atri and his wife set out to the forest to perform penance.
>
> How Atri became Sun and Moon.
>
> Once there was a fierce battle between Devas and Asuras. Owing to the
> shower of arrows from the Asuras, the Sun and Moon became dim. Darkness
> spread everywhere. The Devas began to grope in the dark. They requested
> Atri Maharṣi to find a remedy for this. Moved by their distress, Atri
> suddenly transformed himself into the Sun and Moon. The Moon gave light to
> the Devas. The Sun burnt up the Asuras by his intense heat. Thus the Devas
> were saved. This story was told by Vāyu Bhagavana, to Arjuna. (Mahābhārata,
> Anuśāsana Parva, Chapter 156).
>
> Atri and King Vṛṣādarbhi.
>
> In the Mahābhārata we find a story about a difference of opinion between
> King Vṛṣādarbhi and some Maharṣis. This story was told by Bhīṣma to
> Yudhiṣṭhira about the kind of persons from whom Brahmins may accept gifts.
> Once the Munis, Kaśyapa, Atri, Vasiṣṭha, Bharadvāja, Gautama, Viśvāmitra,
> Jamadagni, and Paśusakhā, with Arundhatī and Gaṇḍā, who were the wives of
> two Munis, travelled round the world. Their object was to go to Brahmaloka.
> At that time there was drought in the world. King Vṛṣādarbhi, the son of
> Śibi, suggested that the above-mentioned Munis should be called and given
> wealth. They refused to accept it. Vṛṣādarbhi became angry. He performed
> Homa in Āhavanīyāgni and from the agnikuṇḍa, the Rākṣasī Yātudhānī (Kṛtyā)
> arose. Vṛṣādarbhi sent Yātudhānī to destroy Atri and all other Munis. As
> Yātudhānī was guarding a lotus pond in the forest, the munis led by Atri
> happened to come that way. The Maharṣis were able to recognize Yātudhānī.
> They beat her with their tridaṇḍu (Trident or a kind of magic wand) and
> reduced her to ashes. After satisfying their hunger by eating the lotus
> flowers the Maharṣis went to Brahmaloka. (Mahābhārata, Anuśāsana Parva,
> Chapter 93).
>
> *Atri and Śrāddha.*
>
> There is a passage in the Mahābhārata in which Atri gives advice to the
> emperor Nimi who belonged to Atri’s family. The story of how Śrāddha
> originated in the world which Bhīṣma had told Dharmaputra was retold by
> Atri. A son named Dattātreya was born to Atri, the son of Brahmā.
> Dattātreya became King. Nimi was his son. Nimi’s son died after one
> thousand years. Nimi who was in deep grief at the death of his son,
> ordained a Śrāddha in memory of his son. On that occasion Atri Maharṣi came
> there and explained to Nimi the importance of Śrāddha. (Mahābhārata,
> Anuśāsana Parva, Chapter 91, Verses 20-44)
>
> How Brahmā, Viṣṇu and Maheśvara (Śiva) were born as sons of Atri.
>
> There is no other woman in the Purāṇas who surpasses Śīlāvatī in her
> fidelity to her husband. In order to enable Ugraśravas, her husband, to
> satisfy his passion, she once carried him on her own shoulders to a
> prostitute’s house. On the way, Māṇḍavya Muni pronounced a curse that
> Ugraśravas should die before sunrise. The grief-stricken Śīlāvatī
> pronounced a counter-curse that the sun should not rise on the next day. As
> the sun failed to rise, the Trimūrtis (Brahmā, Viṣṇu and Śiva), accompanied
> by Anasūyā, Atri’s wife, went to Śīlāvatī. Anasūyā persuaded Śīlāvatī to
> withdraw her curse. The Trimūrtis who were happy at the success of their
> mission (of bringing about the Sunrise) asked Anasūyā to demand any boon
> she wanted. Anasūyā expressed her wish that the Trimūrtis (Brahmā, Viṣṇu
> and Śiva) should be born as her sons and they agreed.
>
> Mahāviṣṇu, under the name of Dattātreya, was born as the son of Anasūyā.
> Śiva was born to her under the name of Durvāsas. There is a story about it
> in the Brahmāṇḍa Purāṇa. Once Śiva got angry with the Devas. They began to
> flee for life. But Brahmā alone did not run away. Śiva who became more
> furious at this, pinched off one of the heads of Brahmā. Still he was not
> pacified. Pārvatī who was alarmed, approached Śiva and begged him to
> suppress his anger. At her request, Śiva’s fury was transferred and
> deposited in Anasūyā, Atri’s wife. Durvāsas is the embodiment of that
> element of Śiva’s fury.
>
> According to the promise, Brahmā also took his birth as the moon from
> Anasūyā, the wife of Atri. (For that story, see PURŪRAVAS). There is a
> story about that also in the Brahmāṇḍa Purāṇa. Once when Brahmā was
> performing the task of creation, he experienced carnal passsion. Sarasvatī
> was the offspring of that passion. When Brahmā saw her, he fell in love
> with her also. This made him feel angry towards Kāmadeva. He pronounced a
> curse that Kāmadeva should be burnt up in the fire from Śiva’s eye. (This
> is why Kāmadeva was later burnt to death by Śiva). Although Kāma had
> retreated from Brahmā his passion had not been suppressed. Brahmā
> transferred his passion to Atri Maharṣi. The Maharṣi gave it to Anasūyā,
> his wife. Since she was unable to bear such a violent passion, she gave it
> back to her husband. That passion emerged from Atri’s eye in the form of
> the Moon. This is why lovers experience strong passion for each other at
> the time of the rising of the moon. (Brahmāṇḍa Purāṇa, Chapters 39-43).
>
> Atri and Gaṅgā Devī.
>
> Once, while Atri Maharṣi was performing penance in Kāmada forest, there
> was a terrible drought in the country. At that time, his wife Anasūyā made
> a Śivaliṅga of sand and offered worship to it. Then Atri asked her to give
> him a little water. There was no water anywhere. Suddenly Gaṅgā Devī
> appeared there and said to Anasūyā: "There will be a hole here. Water will
> come out of it in a torrent."
>
> Pure water began to flow from the place pointed out by Gaṅgā Devī. Anasūyā
> begged Gaṅgā Devī to stay there for a month. Gaṅgā Devī agreed to do so on
> condition that Anasūyā would transfer her Tapaśśakti to her for one month.
>
> Atri was pleased by drinking the water. He asked Anasūyā where she got
> such nice fresh water. She explained to him all matters. Atri expressed his
> desire to see Gaṅgā Devī. She appeared before him at once. Anasūyā prayed
> to her that Gaṅgā should continue to exist in the world always. Gaṅgā Devī
> answered that she would do so if Anasūyā was prepared to give her the fruit
> of one year’s Tapaśśakti and of devoted service to her husband. Anasūyā
> agreed to that condition. Suddenly Śiva appeared there in the shape of a
> Liṅga. At the request of Atri and Anasūyā Śiva took his seat there
> permanently assuming the name of "Atrīśvara". (Śiva Purāṇa).
>
> Other Details.
>
> 1. Besides Dattātreya, Durvāsas and Candra. Atri had another son,
> Prācīnabarhis. (Mahābhārata, Śānti Parva, Chapter 208, Verse 6).
>
> 2. Many Pāvakas had been born in Atri Vaṃśa. (Mahābhārata, Vana Parva,
> Chapter 222, Verses 27-29).
>
> 3. When the Kaurava-Pāṇḍava war was raging with great fury, many Maharṣis
> went to Droṇa and advised him to stop the battle. Atri Maharṣi was one of
> them. (Mahābhārata, Droṇa Parva, Chapter 190, Verse 35).
>
> 4. On another occasion, a King named Soma performed a Rājasūya (Royal
> sacrifice). Atri Maharṣi was the chief priest at this yāga. (Mahābhārata,
> Śalya Parva, Chapter 43, Verse 47).
>
> 5. Atri was also among the Maharṣis who had gone to witness Paraśurāma’s
> tapas. (Brahmāṇḍa Purāṇa, Chapter 64).
>
> 6. Ṛgveda, 5th Maṇḍala was composed by Atri. (Ṛgveda Saṃhitā, Preface).
>
> 7. Once the Asuras put Atri Maharṣi into the Śatadvāra yantra (a machine
> of torture with a hundred holes). Ṛgveda, 1st Maṇḍala, 16th Anuvāka, Sūkta
> 51).
>
> 8. Once the Asuras tried to burn Atri alive. (Ṛgveda, 1st Maṇḍala, 16th
> Anuvāka, Sūkta 112).
>
> 9. The Asuras at another time made Atri lie down in a machine with a large
> number of holes and tried to burn him alive in it. At that time he prayed
> to the Aśvins and they liberated him. (Ṛgveda, 1st Maṇḍala, 17th Anuvāka,
> Sūkta 116).
>
> 10. Atri was among the Maharṣis who visited Śrī Rāma, on his return to
> Ayodhyā after the war with Rāvaṇa. (Uttara Rāmāyaṇa).
>
> 11. From the navel lotus of Viṣṇu Brahmā was born, Atri from Brahmā, Soma
> from Atri, and Purūravas from Soma were born. (Agni Purāṇa, Chapter 12).
>
> 12. Atri begot by Anasūyā, Soma, Durvāsas and Dattātreya yogī. (Agni
> Purāṇa, Chapter 20).
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> N    (3)  If Srimat was already a full thousand years old before he died,
> how old was his father Nimi, two, three thousand years old?
>
> KR  See above; seen even in Ramayana.
>
> (4)  Why, after collecting food and drink "on the 14th day of the moon",
> did Nimi offer only "Syamaka rice, unmixed with salt" to the adorable
> brahmanas on New Moon Day?
>
> KR     After your death ON THE WAY TO NARAKAM if you can meet ATRI ask him.
>
> (5)  Why, contrariwise, did  Nimi "offer cakes of rice unto his dead son"?
>
> KR       You may scribble to your death wish
>
> (6)  Why did all-knowing Athri, Nimi's ancestor, pretend that Nimi's "rite
> that (he had) conceived, is a sacrifice in honour of the Pitris."  Where in
> the vedams, or anywhere else, are dead sons called "pithrus"?
>
> KR      Within a couple of days wrote who exactly Rig vedam called a
> pitru, which included 7 seven. And you will learn better sit down idiot
> Narayana.
>
> (7)  Isn't the whole fairy tale a mere farce without substance or meaning?
>
> KR   Then you are also a farce is it not?
>
> (8)  In Vaalmeeki's Raamaanayanam Cap CIII Ayodhya kaandam, is given an
> accounnt of Sree Raama and his three brothers performing shraaddham for
> their dead father Dasartha Chakravarthy on the banks of the Mandakini
> River.  THIS WAS A WHOLE YUGAM BEFORE BHEESHMA'S TIME.
>
>
>
> (9)  Sree Raama and his brothers first offered water from the
> swiftly-flowing river.  Then they climbed the river-bank, and offered to
> the spirit of their departed royal ancestor crushed pulp of the ingudi
> fruit and of plums, on a mat of kusha grass.
>
> KR      Sradham which you mean is just offering water and why did he give
> that kind of food and not what Atri gave? Sradham was not what Sira
> performed or Rama performed or you are performing? And Atri existed then
> itself in Ramayanam, .Nimi dies and sradham started which Rama followed.
> That is narrated in the fairy tale of Mahabharatham; correct?
>
> (10)  The proper rite of shraddham was already established during Sree
> Raama's time.
>
> KR      Exactly But you missed the bus; Atri was mind born and had Nimi;
> and exited when Rama was a kid; and sradham started by Astri was just
> partly followed by Rama? YOU THOUGHT YOU ARE SMART; BECAUSE IN BHARATHAM
> VISWAMITRA WAS BORN THEN ONLY ; YOU STUPID.
>
> (11)  "Śrāddha is the name of the rite laid down as to be done in honour
> of one’s ancestors, on the amāvasyā day."
>
> N   My comments:-Rubbish -- as usual.
>
> You do amaavaasya pithru-THARPPANAM on new moon days;
>
> You do shraaddham on the anniversary (month, paksham, thithi) of the death
> of the ancestor, mentioning relationship, name and gothram..
>
> KR   rubbish of Narayanasamy as usual. IT IS AWONDER THAT SO MANY WERE
> VIEWING THIS IGNORANT AS A VEDIC PUNDIT FOR SO LONG MEANS WHAT KIND OF
> KNOWLEDGE ONE WOULD HAVE ABOUT OUR LITERATURES? ONE WHO FEIGNS WERE/ARE
> BEING BELIEVED AS REV?
>
> Śraddha (श्रद्ध).(-ddhaṃ-ddhā) 1. Respect, reverence. 2. Wish, desire. 3.
> Faith, belief, confidence. 4. Purity. 5. Composure of mind. 6. Belief in
> divine revelation. E. śrat a particle implying belief, &c., dhā to hold or
> have, affs. aṅ and ṭāp .(-ddhaḥ-ddhā-ddhaṃ) Faithful, believing. n.
>
> (-ddhaṃ) *A funeral ceremony observed at various fixed periods and for*
> different purposes, consisting of offerings with water and fire *to the
> gods and manes,* ( Those who do not please see the words gods also;
> totalling seven which became three and different versions for four varnas
> and Jati colour, from Atri Ramayanam till date; unless read all those
> changes rituals are generally believed only as THE SAME; were there, any
> KRISHNA PADAM DRAWN FROM GATE TO PUJA IN TN EARLY KALI AND LATE DWAPARA
> YUGAM? Narayana do not think you are smart; you are a zero dune}   and
> gifts and food to the relations present and assisting Brahmans; it is
> especially performed for a present recently deceased, or for three paternal
> ancestors or for all ancestors collectively, and is supposed necessary to
> secure the ascent and residence of the souls of the deceased in a world
> appropriated to the manes, The following distributions of this ceremony
> are specified: the pārvaṇaṃ in honour of three ancestors, ekoddiṣṭaṃ of
> one, nityaṃ regular, ( are you aware of this and do you do? Every day a
> brahmin must do sradham which is also on an Amavasya and full moon day } 
> naimittikaṃ
> occasionally, kāmyaṃ for the attainment of some particular object, āhnikaṃ
> daily, vṛddhiḥ for the obtaining of increase of prosperity, and sapiṇḍanaṃ
> in which the balls of meat offered to the deceased individually and
> collectively are blended together. There are many other kinds: those for
> a person recently deceased are one on the day after mourning expires, and
> twelve others in twelve successive months; one at the end of the third
> fortnight, one in the sixth month, and one in the twelfth, concluding with
> a Sapindana, on the anniversary of the person’s death; in general they are
> all performed in the course of the two or three first days, and the oher
> Shradd'ha for the deceased is only annually repeated. *There is also a
> short of Shradd'ha performed daily during the days of mourning, usually
> ten, on which a funeral cake is presented, increasing one or more each day
> till ten cakes are offered*. E. śraddhā faith, aṇ or ṇa aff. of
> possession or relation, as the abandonment or presentation of *meat,* &c.,{KR
> That is also there}  through faith of its efficacy, in behalf of the
> souls of the deceased. {Your knowledge of anything is śloka and a few KYV
> verses; and you were looking at others who did not know much, as if you are
> the greatest (blinded raja paarvai) ; and now fell down like ninepins; so
> cry from the roof; why all these at this age Narayana?} About sradham there
> are volumes spoken and what little knowledge does not make the sky And a
> Muddy’s anger will not even touch me Thank you. If you persist, only you
> ill forgotten forever, when you are not here.
>
>  K RAJARAM IRS 14524//15524
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