Sure sir, I wish to be so.
Only thing the lecturers must change and subject too, otherwise the class will
be boring.
One lecturer should not think he is knowing more than others.All are qualified
postgraduates with ranking and undergone teachers training. All have equal
caliber.
Gopalakrishnan
On Wednesday, 22 May, 2024 at 08:25:52 am IST, 'Bala N. Aiyer' via
KeralaIyers <[email protected]> wrote:
Thank you all for a kind response. I already copied the short essay on
Mahabharatha in 3 pages and then in 10 pages, and converted them as a booklet
for me to read them at leisure.Let us all communicate with proper English like
in a class room with honorable professors addressing the class.O course, my
language and spelling, from USA may be different from a British English, and
those from India, Singapore and Australia.
I post my own articles in Facebook an also I have six books on Amazon on Hindu
Dharma and one book on Health Care.
Thank you all very much,
With kind regards & best wishes,
Bala N. Aiyer
On Tuesday, May 21, 2024 at 08:28:58 PM CDT, gopala krishnan
<[email protected]> wrote:
Respected sir,
I am a person responding to ugly, indecent, abusive, underestimate responses
of Mr Rajaram, former IRS. From my part I have not used any such language, only
wrote in simple manner in decent English, with 80% accuracy in language.
I have stopped responding to Mr Rajaram, abiding o a REQUEST by Mr Sai,
moderator of iyer123 group from today.
Similarly Mr Narayanaswamy Iyer also. He an aged and scholar, settled in
Singapore. He is from legal side, highly qualified and very proficient in
English.
This response is not to downgrade Mr Rajaram. But a true statement. I wrote to
him many times not to respond to Mr Narayanaswamy, if he felt his responses are
not to his expectation.
In fact Mr Sai, moderator of iyer123 requested him, need not respond to each
and every messages.
Sir, past is past. Let all of us have good morning days from today.
R. Gopalakrishnan( former ITS 7024)
On Wednesday, 22 May, 2024 at 03:28:49 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy
<[email protected]> wrote:
Welcome and thank u for the forceful thoughts written with in depth. If
Perusal wills so it will be. Thanks again. K. Rajaram IRS 21524
On Tue, May 21, 2024, 2:55 PM 'Bala N. Aiyer' via KeralaIyers
<[email protected]> wrote:
If you have Mahabharata in 10 Pages, I would like to receive a copy of that
text, please.Also, such short explanation of the each of the four Vedas (The
Karma & Brahmana part) and also brief texts on the important 12 Upanishads,
each in 8 to 12 pages, a 12 page brief text of Srimad Bhagavad Gita complete
are also necessary to educate our Next Generation.
Also, when you post your articles, please tell some of the members, who try to
write un-parliamentary abusive words, like a street battle, washing off their
dirty linen, not to write like that. If they don't like it, they can keep
silent or write their own texts in full, with their own authority.
Thank you for your great service.
Bala N. Aiyer
On Tuesday, May 21, 2024 at 10:59:12 AM CDT, Rajaram Krishnamurthy
<[email protected]> wrote:
CULTURAL QA 05202421
Q Whatis a brief summary of the full story of Mahabharatha?
KR 10pages brief Mahabhartham without the JAYA and Maha might not
have been known tomany old people of the congregations and so a yeoman service
is a glorifiedservice rendered sir. clap clap.
2 Mahabharatham so brief: Mahabharata Summary (3 pages)
Ugraśravas the Suta begins telling a story to some Brahminseers led by Śaunaka.
He says it’s called the Mahabharata and that it’s full ofheroes and seers
performing amazing feats. Ugraśravas heard that a great seernamed Vyasa first
compiled the Mahabharata, and he begins narrating the storyof what Vyasa’s
assistant, Vaiśampayana, told to Janamejaya while Janamejayawas in the middle
of conducting a snake sacrifice.
2 Vaiśampayanabegins telling the story of the Kuru lineage, of which
Janamejaya himself is amember. Some of the most important members of this
lineage are the Pandavas, agroup of five brothers who each achieve fame in
their own way: Yudhishthira,Arjuna, Bhima, and the twins Nakula and Sahadeva.
Another major branch of thefamily is called the Kauravas, and it includes
Dhritarashtra, who has 100 sons,the eldest and most notable of whom is
Duryodhana.
3 A rivalrybetween the Pandavas and the Kauravas begins early in life, with
Duryodhana atone point scheming to try to kill his cousins. Later, with the
help of anadvisor named Śakuni, Duryodhana gets the idea that since he can’t
defeat thePandavas in battle, he’ll steal the Pandava kingdom for himself by
trickingYudhishthira into a gambling match. Many of Dhritarashtra’s other
advisors,like Vidura, tell him that it isn’t wise to let Duryodhana go through
with thisplan, but Dhritarashtra allows him to do so anyways.
4 Yudhishthiraloses the gambling competition and has to give away
everything, including hisown freedom, his entire kingdom of Hastinapura, and
his wife Draupadi (whom heshares with the other four Pandava brothers).
Eventually, Duryodhana agrees torelease the Pandavas and Draupadi from bondage,
but they have to go into exilefor 12 years and then spend a 13th year in
disguise in a city.
After the end of the Pandava exile, tensions between themand the Kauravas flare
up again, as the Pandavas resent the loss of theirkingdom and the way that
Duryodhana treated their wife, Draupadi, as a slave.Meanwhile, the Kauravas
keep encroaching on Pandava territory. Ultimately, theKauravas and the Pandavas
fight a massive war for the succession of the Kurulineage that results in the
deaths of over 1.6 trillion people. Duringpreparations for the war, Arjuna
secures the help of Krishna, a strong and virtuousincarnation of the god
Vishnu, who, despite vowing not to fight, seems toassure victory for whichever
side he’s on. Krishna agrees to be Arjuna’scharioteer.
5 The actualfighting, which lasts 18 days, involves great heroes on each
side performingamazing feats of military prowess, sometimes using powerful
celestial weaponsand killing many nameless soldiers and some famous heroes as
well. Duryodhanaheads the Pandava forces, appointing a series of commanders
that inevitablyfall in battle to the Pandavas. Meanwhile, Yudhishthira leads
the Pandavas andtheir allies with a steady hand. At the end of each day, the
messenger Samajayarecounts what happened to the blind king Dhritarashtra, who
laments the manylosses his army suffers each day. Perhaps the most significant
portion of thebattle is the Bhagavadgita, a section of the poem where Arjuna
has doubts aboutwhether or not it’s right to fight, and Krishna gives a famous
speech thattouches on many topics of morality and spirituality. Arjuna
ultimately goes onto become perhaps the fiercest warrior on the battlefield
with his trusty bowand with Krishna driving his chariot.
6 Near the end ofthe war, when the Pandavas have defeated almost all of
their enemies,Aśvatthaman (son of the dead Kaurava commander Drona) prays to
Śiva andconducts a deadly night raid that kills most of the remaining Pandava
armywhile the five brothers are away. Still, even this is not enough to change
theoutcome of the war, and the Pandavas take back their kingdom in
Hastinapura,where Yudhishthira is reinstalled as king.
7 After thewar, the survivors continue to live out the rest of their
lives, withDhritarashtra reconciling with the Pandavas before ultimately dying
in ahermitage. To commemorate the occasion of regaining his kingdom,
Yudhishthiraconducts a horse ceremony, allowing a horse to roam across his
entire kingdomunder Arjuna’s protection before finally sacrificing it.
8 Eventually,it comes time for the Pandavas and Draupadi to go on one last
journey. As theywalk, they each fall down dead, one by one. Yudhishthira, the
last onestanding, is allowed to enter the heaven of the god Indra while keeping
hismortal body. When Yudhishthira arrives, he’s shocked to find Duryodhana on
athrone and his old allies all being tortured. He fears he’s dreaming until,
atlast, Indra appears, dispelling the illusion and telling him that it’s a
king’sfate to go to hell before reaching heaven and that in fact, he and his
alliesare allowed to live in heaven for their good deeds on earth.
9 Theframe story ends with Ugraśravas repeating that the
Mahabharata is a tale aboutvictory and that just hearing it or telling it
brings good luck. He offers ahymn that people can say every morning to try to
get closer to perfection. KR IRS 21524 22524
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From: 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 21 May 2024 at 09:07
Subject: [iyer123] CULTURAL QA 05-2024-21
To: Patty Thatha <[email protected]>, Kerala Iyer
<[email protected]>, Iyer <[email protected]>
CULTURAL QA 05-2024-21
The below QA is from Quora digest to me on 21-05-2024.
.Compiledand posted byR. Gopala krishnan, on 21-05-2024
Q What is a brief summary of the full story ofMahabharatha?
A ÁnushGudimetlá, Reading the BORI
Mahbharata(2022-present)Updated 2y
It is quite hard since Mahabharata is full of interconnectedand interwoven
stories. I will give the briefest summary.
There was a king named Shantanu and he had Ganga as his wife.They had a son,
whose name was Devavrata. He became a good prince.
My addition- After the birth of Devarata, Gangaleft king Santhanu according to
the agreed marriage condition by king Santhanu withGanga.
Years passed. One day Shantanu fell in love with Satyavati.Shantanu asked
Satyavati’s father whether he can marry her. He agrees but onone condition -
The person to inherit the throne shouldn’t be Devavrata and itshould be
Satyavati’s children to inherit it.
Shantanu, however, didn’t like this and he declines. ButDevavrata, on coming to
know this, went to Satyavati’s residence ,met her father, and took a vow that
he would remain celibatethroughout his life and will remain bound to the
throne.Because of this vow hetook, Devavrata came to be known as Bhishma, one
of the most wisest and mostpowerful characters in Mahabharata.
Then Satyavati and Shantanu marry, and give birth to 2children, named
Chitrangada and Vichitravirya. Chitrangada should inherit thethrone, but he
dies in the battle with Gandharvas.
Then Vichitravirya becomes the ruler and he marries two womennamed Ambika and
Ambalika. But before they gave birth to children,Vichitravirya died.
Satyavati had another son named Vyasa(he is also author of the Mahabharata).
Sherequests him to grant children to both the women through the niyoga
tradition.
Then Ambika and Ambalika gave birth to two sons. They were -Dhritarashtra and
Pandu. Dhritarashtra should rightfully have been king afterhis father passed,
but since he was a blind person, he was disqualified fromkingship. His younger
son, Pandu was made the king.
Pandu ruled his kingdom nicely for a time. However hishappiness was short lived.
One day he was hunting and he kills a deer. He realizes thatthe deer is
actually a sage. The sage, then curses him that, he can’treproduce, and won’t
be able to produce a heir. Upset by this, he handed theempire to Dhritarashtra
and went to the forest with his 2 wives, Kunti andMadri.
Dhritarashtra was then happy that, now there no longer willbe anyone to claim
the throne(Pandu can’t have children), and the next thronewill belong to his
sons only.
But however, there was a loophole — Kunti had a boon fromsage Durvasa, that she
could have a child by any god whom she respects withouthaving any marital
affair. She had to chant a mantra with great devotionfocusing on a god of her
choice, and that god would come down to Earth and giveher a child.
Kunti, in the forest, chanted the mantra to 3 gods — Yama,Vayu, and Indra and
bore three sons — Yuddhistira, Bhima, and Arjunarespectively.
She taught this to Madri too, and Madri chanted mantra to theAshwini twin gods,
and got two sons - Nakula and Sahadeva.
These 5 sons are known as Pandavas.
Another importantstory to note - When Kunti first had this mantra, she
dedicated it to Surya thesun god to see whether it worked or not. It gave birth
to a boy. This boy isKarna, who is an important character in Mahabharata.
But, she wasunmarried that time. Hence, Kunti abandoned the newly born Karna
adrift in abasket on the Ganges, in the hope that he finds foster parents. The
basket was discoveredand Karna was adopted and raised by foster Suta parents
named Radha andAdhiratha.
They requests Surya to give Karna the Kavach Kundal, apowerful shield to
protect body.
__________________________________________________
But unfortunately one day, Pandu died. Heart-broken, Madriflung herself into
his funeral pyre and died, leaving Kunti to take care of all5 boys alone.She
decides to head back to Hastinapura.
A lot of things had happened in the Hastinapura during allthis time.
Dhritarashtra and his wife Gandhari, gave birth to, well, 100 sons and a
daughter. They were all born at almostsame time, and not naturally too. Once
Vyasa granted Gandhari a boon, and sherequested hundred sons. She became
pregnant, gave birth to flesh, which was cutinto hundred and one pieces by
Vyasa, and were incubated in a mud pot.
Coming back to story now. Kunti arrived at Dhritarashtra’splace. He allowed
them to stay in there.
The 105 princes grew up together. They were taught lessonsunder Drona. Even
Karna whom I told before was taught here.
In all the lessons and departments, the Pandavas outraneveryone. Yuddhistira
was the most honest and upright(he was called Dharmaraj),Bhima was strongest,
Arjuna was the best archer, Nakula and Sahadeva were besthorsemen.
This made the Kauravas, especially Duryodhana very jealous.
Once, he along with Shakuni and Karna decide to poison Bhima.But Bhima survives.
Then after all the education of the princes, there was anevent. After this,
Yuddhistira was crowned as the king.
This was against the will of Duryodhana and Shakuni. So,again they plot a plan
to kill Pandavas. They build a palace made ofinflammable material and invited
Pandavas to stay at night.Vidura, the primeminister at Hastinapura warns
Pandavas of this plan.
That night, Pandavas, before the house was set on fire,escape from that
place.This was the time they understand Duryodhana’s enmity onthem.Pandavas
went undercover.One day they heard of Draupadi’s swayamwara.In her swayamwara,
the person hadto shoot a bird by looking at its reflection.
Everyone failed. Then Arjuna who was in disguise shot thetarget with precision.
Draupadi then weds Arjuna.
(One important note- This eventis when Krishna first appears in Mahabharata.
Then he becomes friendswith Arjuna. Little did Arjuna know that the man who he
was friends with wasthe parabrahman itself.)
After the event, Arjuna brings Draupadi home. He says, “Mom,look what I brought
home!”
Kunti misunderstands what Arjuna brings home for a fruit andsays, “Whatever you
brought share it among yourself”.
Now mum had spoken, the was no going back. Draupadi thenbecame the wife of all
the Pandavas.
Hearing about the person who shot the target at Draupadi’sswayamwara,
Duryodhana realizes that it was Arjuna, since only he could shootwith such
precision.
Dhritarashtra then comes to know this. He gave them someland. The land was
barren and a wasteland.But, Pandavas turn this barren landinto their beautiful
kingdom. This kingdom is called Indraprastha. This kingdomwas a beautiful
paradise and prospered under their rule.
Duryodhana becomes really jealous after seeing theirprosperity. He plots
another cunning plan.
He decides to exploit the weakness and the bad quality ofYuddhistira - Gambling
and Pachisi, the game of dice.
He invites Yuddhistira for the game. Duryodhana asks Shakunito play on
his(duryodhana’s) behalf.
The game of dice is a game of pure chance and luck. There isno way to guarantee
winning. Shakuni,was a grandmaster of cheating in this game,
Throughout the whole game, Yuddhistira kept losing andShakuni kept winning. But
Yuddhistira didn’t stop playing, convinced that luckwould turn his way soon(he
didn’t know that the game was rigged).
In each round in the game, both sides had something big atstake - palaces,
territories etc.
Yuddhistira lost everything. He then staked his 4 brothers,Draupadi, and
himself too.He lost everything. Entire kingdom, his family,himself, and his
beloved wife.
Then, the Kauravas, dragged Draupadi to the middle of thewhole assembly. In the
midst of the assembly, Karna orders Dushasana to disrobeDraupadi in front of
everyone.
Draupadi prays to Krishna. Krishna then makes the saree ofDraupadi infintely
long, saving her.
Dhritarashtra then setsin, and insists on giving back Pandavas everything.
Then after all this, Krishna promises Draupadi that he willpunish all of them
for insulting her like this.
After few months, they invited Yuddhistira again. This time,the loser would
have to go on exile for 12 years followed by 1 year of spendingin incognito. If
they get caught during this time, they should go on an exileagain. Yuddhistira
played again, and… lost again.He,his wife, and all his brothers go on an exile.
During this time, Arjuna goes to the heavens to train himselfin warfare. Then
in the final year, the Pandavas successfully spend their timein incognito in
the Virata kingdom.
Yuddhishthira took up employment as a king's counsellor,Bheem worked in the
royal kitchens, Arjuna turned himself into a eunuch andtaught the palace
maidens how to sing and dance, Nakula and Sahadeva worked atthe royal stables,
and Draupadi became a handmaiden to the queen.
They weren’t caught. And, they returned to Duryodhana, toreclaim their land.
But Duryodhana refused to give back the kingdom.Yuddhistiraasked for just 5
villages, and Duryodhana refused and said that he won’t giveland that would fit
on the needle-head.
Krishna went on a peace mission and failed.o, therewas only one option left -
to declare a war.
Preparations started from both the sides. The Kauravasgathered a lot of rulers
from throughout the subcontinet.
Then for the war, both Duryodhana and Arjuna reach Krishnafor help. They both
wanted Krishna on their side. Krishna smartly made an offer- one can have his
whole powerful army - the Narayani Sena and the other canhave Krishna himself.
But on one condition that, Krishna wouldn’t pickupweapons in the war and would
just be the charioteer.
Duryodhana chose the Narayani Sena, and Arjuna, was happy tohave Krishna
himself on his side, even as the charioteer.
The day of war has come. The war wasset at a place called Kurukshetra.
Just a small time before war, some one hour before, Arjunaasks Krishna to drive
him through the battlefield. Then Arjuna, saw that thepeople from the enemy
side were none other than his own relatives, his unclesand cousins and everyone.
He gets depressed. He says Krishna that he doesn’t want tofight. This was when
Krishna says Arjuna to fight, and why he should fight.This was when, Krishna
reveals Arjuna the wisdom of Bhagavad Gita.
After listening to Krishna, Arjuna decides to fight and picksup his bow.
People from both the sides fiercely fight the war. Pandavas,whose army was much
smaller than Kauravas fight courageously.
The war was 18 days long. Krishna guided Arjuna throughoutthe course.
Mighty warriors from both sides were killed.
After 10 days of the war, Bhishma was defeated. Then 5 dayslater, Drona was
killed. 2 days later, Karna was killed.
On the last day, Duryodhana was killed and war ended.
After the war, Yuddhistira was crowned as king of Hastinapurand Indraprastha.
ThePandavas ruled for 36 years, after which they abdicated in favour
ofAbhimanyu's son, Parikshit.
The Pandavas and Draupadi proceeded on foot to the Himalayas,intending to live
out their last days climbing the slopes heavenwards. One byone, they fell on
this last journey and their spirits ascended to the heavens. Only
Yuddhishtradoesn't fall but enters heaven and then leaves his life.
Draupadi, Pandavas, and Dharmaraj Yuddhistira ascended toheavens together
As for Krishna, it ended in tragedy.He and his clan was cursed by motherof
Kauravas Gandhari that, they would fight among themselves and die. She didthis
in the sadness that her children died.
Krishna’s clan Yadava was destroyed.He, then, one day goes toa forest and lies
under a tree. A hunter mistakens him for a deer, and shootsan arrow at his
foot.he hunter asks for forgivence. Krishna forgives him, andleaves the
material body.
It was after Krishna’s departure that made Yuddhistira givesup throne.
Vyasa(whom I talked about in the starting) narrated thisstory to Lord Ganesha.
After Yuddhistira, his son Parikshit becomes the ruler. Hedies because of a
bite from a naga named Takshasa.Then, Parikshit’s son,Janmejaya, decides to
start a snake sacrifice, Sarpa Satra.
Just before going on the sacrifice, Vaisampayana, thedisciple of Vyasa, says
the epic to Janmejaya.This whole telling, came to beknown as the Mahabharata.
Thanks for reading!
~Ánush Gudimetlá (అనుష్ గుడిమెట్లా)
EDIT : Thanks to Kavana.N , Sūrya S A (सूर्य.एस्.ए), Mahi Soni, Nischal R, and
Prakhar (प्रखर) sir for pointing the mistakes and/orsuggesting the edits.
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