Welcome Mr Bala Iyer KR IRS 22524 On Wed, 22 May 2024 at 20:26, 'Bala N. Aiyer' via KeralaIyers < [email protected]> wrote:
> Sorry for the typing error. > > Dear Sri K. Rajaraman sir: > > Thank you, > You are providing me with some valuable information that I have been > looking for. > > With kind regards & best wishes, > > Bala N. Aiyer > > > On Wednesday, May 22, 2024 at 08:16:44 PM CDT, Bala N. Aiyer < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Dear Sri K. Rajaraman > > Thank you. > You are proving me with some valuable information that I have been looking > for. > > With kind regards & best wishes, > > Bala N. Aiyer > > > On Wednesday, May 22, 2024 at 07:57:33 PM CDT, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > DESTINY AND LUCK SELF WILLED AND FEARSOME > > Valluvar who said as seen below > > குறள் 371: ஆகூழால் தோன்றும் அசைவின்மை கைப்பொருள் போகூழால் தோன்று மடி > > பணம் சேர்வதற்கு உரிய விதி நமக்கு இருந்தால், சேர்ப்பதற்கான முயற்சி > உண்டாகும். இருப்பதையும் இழப்பதற்கான விதி இருந்தால் சோம்பல் உண்டாகும். > > பேதைப் படுக்கும் இழவூழ் அறிவகற்றும் ஆகலூ ழுற்றக் கடை > > தாழ்வதற்கு உரிய விதி இருந்தால் அறிவு மனிதனைப் பேதை ஆக்கும்; உயர்வதற்கு > உரிய விதி இருந்தால் அறிவு விரிவு பெறும். > > நுண்ணிய நூல்பல கற்பினும் மற்றுந்தன் உண்மை யறிவே மிகும் > > பேதை ஆக்குவதற்கு உரிய விதி நமக்கு இருந்தால், நுட்பமான கருத்துக்களை உடைய > பல நூல்களைக் கற்றாலும் இயல்பான அறிவே இருக்கும். ( அறிவு விரிவ பெறாது) > > வகுத்தான் வகுத்த வகையல்லாற் கோடி தொகுத்தார்க்குந் துய்த்த லரிது > > கோடிப்பொருள் சேர்ந்திருந்தாலும் , இறைவன் விதித்த விதிப்படிதான் நாம் அதை > அனுபவிக்க முடியுமே தவிர, நம் விருப்பப்படி அனுபவிப்பது கடினம். > > > > ஊழிற் பெருவலி யாவுள மற்றொன்று சூழினுந் தான்முந் துறும் > > விதியை வெல்ல வேறொரு வழியை எண்ணி நாம் செயற்பட்டாலும், அந்த வழியிலேயோ வேறு > ஒரு வழியிலேயோ அது நம்முன் வந்து நிற்கும்; ஆகவே விதியை விட வேறு எவை > வலிமையானவை? > > ALSO SAID THAT > > ஊழையும் உப்பக்கம் காண்பர் உலைவின்றித் > > தாழாது உஞற்று பவர். - 620) > > Oozhaiyum Uppakkam Kaanpar Ulaivindrith > > Thaazhaadhu Ugnatru Pavar > > ūḻaiyum uppakkam kāṇpar ulaiviṉṟit > > tāḻātu uñaṟṟu pavar. > > Those who never get tired of striving undauntedly Shall leave even Fate > behind. > > மனம் தளராமல் இடைவிடாது முயற்சி செய்பவர், விதியையும் புறமுதுகு காட்டக் > காண்பர். > > Tiruvalluvar or Jambunathan do not lie; fact is Oozhvinai vandu mun > uruthum is certain; but there is no point is succumbing to it; rather face > it and tr forcing your effort; who knows? may win over the situation also > if the GOOD KARMA prevailed. > > “This vast universe is a wheel. Upon it are all creatures that are subject > to birth, death, and rebirth. Round and round it turns, and never stops. It > is the wheel of cosmic consciousness. As long as the individual self thinks > it is separate from cosmic consciousness, it revolves upon the wheel in > bondage to the laws of birth, death, and rebirth. But when through the > grace of cosmic consciousness it realizes its identity with him, it > revolves upon the wheel no longer. It achieves immortality.” – Svetasvatara > Upanishad. > > “Now a person is like this or like that. As it does, so it becomes; by > doing good it becomes good, and by doing evil it becomes evil, it becomes > pure by pure acts and bad by bad acts. And others, however, say that a > person consists of desires. And as is his desire, so is his will; and as is > his will, so is his deed; and whatever deed he does, that he will reap.” – > Brihadaranyaka > Upanishad – 4.4.5 > > “And here there is this verse: “To whatever object a man’s own mind is > attached, to that he goes strenuously together with his deed; and having > obtained the end (the last results) of whatever deed he does here on earth, > he returns again from that world (which is the temporary reward of his > deed) to this world of action. So much for the man who desires.” – > Brihadaranyaka > Upanishad – 4.4.6 > > In Vaisheshika Sutra X.ii.7 and meaning characteristic or distinguishing, > according to Pāṇini (Sutra IV.iii.87) is derived from the word Vishesha > meaning species, distinction, difference, excellence or superiority. Uluka, > who was before the birth of Gautama Buddha and is commonly known as Kanada, > compiled the Vaisheshika sutras. Gautama who founded the Nyaya School came > later. The term Adrishta appears in Vaisheshika Sutra V.i.15: > > मणिगमनं सूच्यभिसर्पणमदृष्टकारणकम् | > > "The movement of the jewel (and) the approach of the needle, (both) have > adrishtam (the invisible consequences of previous acts) as their cause." > > The reason of the movement of the jewel is not a particular volition but > the efficient cause is the merit of the former possessor or the demerit of > the thief. The non-combative cause is its conjunction with soul possessing > adrishta (or results of actions in previous states of existence) and the > combinative cause is the jewel. Adrishta is also the cause of attraction of > the needle towards a loadstone (magnet). Owing to adrishta is the upwards > flaming of fire, the sideward motion of air and the actions of atoms at the > beginning of creation. Kanada, later on, tells us that even action in earth > results from impulse, impact, and conjunction with the conjunct and is > caused by Adrishta (Vaisheshika Sutra V.ii.1-2).[10] The fruits or rewards > of yajnas or sacrifice are not dispensed by any beneficent God. > > However, Patanjali tells us –क्लेशमूलः कर्माशयो दृष्टादृष्टजन्मवेदनीयः (Yoga > Sutras II.12) that obstacles are the breeding ground for tendencies that > give rise to actions and the consequences thereof; such obstacles are > experienced as visible and invisible obstacles. Swami Prabhavananda > translates this sutra as – "A man’s latent tendencies have been created by > his past thoughts and actions; these tendencies will bear fruits, both in > this life and in lives to come. “Apurva{adrishta} is an epistemic mechanism > that indicates knowledge of causal links between acts and their > consequences. Sabara discusses this concept in his commentary on the > Vaisheshika Sutras, and even claims that by the word codana (Sanskrit: चोदन > -meaning precept or rule -the performative > element of an injunction) Jaimini really meant Apurva; it is mentioned by > Jaimini in passing, as part of purvapaksa argument in Mimamsa Sutra I.ii.9 > > The Karma is certain; but that man who is acting without > inaction and inactive even in action, is courageous; stitha Pragnan. > Adrishta itself shows the word coined as UNSEEN. So, work consciously; fall > will not be felt; survival may be certain > > K Rajaram IRS 22524 23524 > > On Wed, 22 May 2024 at 18:20, Jambunathan Iyer <[email protected]> > wrote: > > “Only the timid and the weak leave things to destiny, but the strong AND > the self-confident never bank on destiny or luck.” > > N Jambunathan Rengarajapuram-Kodambakkam-Chennai-Mob:9176159004 > > *" What you get by achieving your goals is not as important as what you > become by achieving your goals. 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