Respected sir,
Since my name is also included in the address bar, I have the follwing to 
comment on Mr Rajaram's posting under reference. I am not sure whether the 
following last lines are of his own or copied, which is reproduced below:-
"I also think gotram tends to set apart brahmins from non-brahmins,a vestige of 
an often distasteful social  past that I would rather move away from.  For this 
 very reason, I avoid reference to it, as wellas to the term "Iyengar", whose 
meaning is shrouded in confusion". 

Sir, The above lines totally wrong. Kshathrias, Vaisyas are also having 
Gothram. They talk about the Gothram on important samskaras.
I am reproducing a google search result  about royal families of Kerala. I 
belong to Pandalam, so the search was with Pandalam royal family.
It is believed that the royal family of Pandalam belonged to the Bhargava gotra 
while other royal families in Kerala were included in the Viswamitra gotra

    Similarly the chettiar community,Pilli are also having Gothra.
Gopalakrishnan


On Monday, 27 May, 2024 at 08:52:47 am IST, Bala N. Aiyer <[email protected]> 
wrote:  
 
 Wonderful article - Thank you for sharing this information.
With kind regards & best wishes,

Bala N. Aiyer 

    On Sunday, May 26, 2024 at 10:21:23 PM CDT, Bala N. Aiyer 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
 
 Wonderful article - Thank you for sharing this information.
With kind regards & best wishes,
Bala N. Aiyer 

    On Sunday, May 26, 2024 at 09:52:47 PM CDT, Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
 
 
Pitu Gotra KR IRS 26524    27524 contd

 

Hinduism owes a great deal to the Samkhya (Sankhya)philosophy or the Samkhya 
Darshana. Samkhya means number. The Samkhyaphilosophy deals with the number of 
realities that are present in existence. Itexerted a profound influence on many 
scholars in ancient India, China, and,according to some, even in Greece. Even 
today, it attracts the attention ofmany scholars, although it is not a living 
philosophy and has no activefollowers. However, aspects of its original 
doctrine survive in present-dayHinduism as a reminder of its ancient glory.

According to the Samkhya philosophy, Prakriti or Nature isresponsible for all 
manifestation and diversity, while the individual souls(Purushas), which are 
eternal, remain passive. When they come into contact withNature, they become 
subject to its influence and are embodied by its realities.Prakriti is an 
eternal reality and the first cause of the universe. In its pureand original 
form, it is the unmanifest (avyaktam), a primal resource, the sumof the 
universal energy. It is without cause but acts as the cause and sourceof all 
effects and "the ultimate basis of the empirical universe.”

Prakriti manifests things by modifying or transforming thecauses into effects 
that are already hidden in them. Thus, the school believesin the theory of 
evolution or transformation (parinama vada), with Prakritiacting as the 
pre-programmed supreme intelligence (Mahat). Using the triplegunas and its 
various realities (tattvas), it creates the diversity of numerousbeings and 
objects. However, Prakriti has no power or control over the souls(Purushas), 
which are eternal, numerous, independent, and immutable. It cannotalso create 
life forms without the participation of the souls. Creation(Shristi) begins 
when the equilibrium of the gunas (modes) in Prakriti becomesdisturbed, and its 
realities (tattvas) manifest as organs in the beings(jivas). According to the 
school, all 24 realities (tattvas) emerge or evolveout of Nature, each having 
the predominance of one or more gunas. The 24 tattvas are listed below.

Prakriti, the Primal Nature (1)

Mahat, the GreatOne, The first evolute of Prakriti (2)

Buddhi,discriminating, reasoning, and causative intelligence (2)

Ahamkara, ego orego-principle (3)  allthese made to:

Manas, the physicalmind or brain (4)

The five panchendriyas,sense organs (9)4+5

The five karmendriyas,the organs of action (14)9+5

The five Tanmatra,subtle elements or sense perceptions (19)14+5

The five Mahabhutas,gross elements, namely the earth, water, air, fire, and 
ether (24)19+5

   These tattvas arethe evolutes of Nature. The Mahat (the Great One) is the 
first reality toemerge from Prakriti when sattva is predominant. Hence, it is 
also known as theSambhuta (the manifested). It has a universal aspect as the 
intelligence of theworld and a subtle aspect as the intelligence, buddhi, or 
the thinking mind inliving beings. It is responsible for their rationality and 
discriminatingawareness but remains mostly clouded due to the triple gunas. 
From Buddhi,ahamkaram, the self-sense, or the feeling of individuality, evolves 
andstrengthens through desires and attachments induced by the gunas. It 
isresponsible for the self-sense (ego) or the state of being (anavatva). From 
theego evolves the brain or the memorial mind (manas), which is a repository 
ofall perceptions, memories, and mental impressions and objects. Up to now, 
thetattvas we mentioned are subtle, but from here on, those we are going 
tomention are gross. They are the five senses (jnanedriyas), the five organs 
ofaction (karmendriyas), the five sense perceptions (tanmatras) or objects of 
thesenses, and the five gross elements (mahabhutas).{   Except Manas 23elements 
make a DNA chain of opposites=46}

   They constitutethe 24 tattvas. Together with Purusha(individual soul), who 
is an eternal reality, thenumber becomes 25.***** Nature uses them to produce 
the diversity in theworld. Of them, Prakriti is without a cause. Mahat, 
ahamkara, and the five Tanmatraare both causes and effects. The rest are 
effects only. Purusha is neither acause nor an effect. It is eternal, without a 
cause and effect, and immutable.

 

The Natural evolution of things and beings, as suggestedby the Samkhya, has 
many parallels with the modern theories of evolution.However, while modern 
theories focus mainly on the evolution of physical bodiesand organs, the 
Samkhya doctrine proposes physical, mental, and spiritualevolution and 
transformation of beings over many lifetimes. Further, it viewsevolution, or 
the transformation of causes into effects, not as the miraclework of a 
Universal God but as a transformative process within Nature thatprogresses 
through different phases and in predictable patterns until the soulsescape from 
the mortal world.

The Samkhya school was founded by Kapila, who probablylived in the Vedic period 
before the composition of principal Upanishads suchas the Svetasvatara, Katha, 
Prasna, and Maitrayani Upanishads. The earliestknown text of the school is the 
Kapila Sutras, or  Samkhya Sutras, ascribed to sage Kapila (6thor 7th Century 
BCE), also considered the school's founder. 

In the second chapter,the  Bhagavadgita presents its owntheistic version of 
Samkhya. It has a few features in common withthe original school but is 
essentially theistic. While Samkhya recognizesNature as the source of all 
creation, the Bhagavadgita identifies Brahman asthe first cause of creation and 
Nature as a dependent reality, which manifeststhe worlds and beings under the 
will of God.{KR: One ofthe Gita yoga is samkya yoga} 

In some respects, theYogasutras of Patanjali is both an extension and an 
exposition of the ClassicalSamkhya and Yoga schools. The Samkhya yoga of the  
Bhagavadgita is but a subtle refutation ofthe fundamental doctrines of the 
Samkhya philosophy about Brahman or Purusha asthe primary and efficient cause 
of all creation. However, interestingly, itaccepts many concepts of the school, 
such as the division of the gunas andtattvas, the bondage of the embodied 
souls, the relationship between Prakritiand Purusha, the modifications of the 
mind, the binding nature of karma arisingfrom desire-ridden actions, and the 
liberation of the jivas through yoga,renunciation, detachment, and 
self-transformation.

As in the Vedanta, the Samkhya school suggests that soulsbecome bound when they 
are enveloped and embodied by Prakriti, and theresulting jivas fall into 
delusion and ignorance. When they realize that theirattachment to Nature (the 
mind and body) and to worldly things is responsiblefor their bondage and that 
they are pure souls with an independent and eternaland indestructible existence 
of their own, independent of Prakriti and hertattvas and modes, they strive for 
liberation and achieve release or freedomfrom the cycle of births and deaths.

Xxx

***** chetanam means: YOGA VASISHTAM 

Vasishtha replied:—

2. ### ThisGod of whom I spoke, is not at a distance from us. He is situated in 
these ourbodies, and is known to be of the form of mere Intellect (chinmatra) 
to us.So says Fichte: The Infinite Reason (chit) alone exists in himself—the 
finitein him. Lewis vol. II. p. 563.

###   सहस्रशीर्षा । पुरुषः । सहस्रअक्षः । सहस्रपात् । सः । भूमिम् । विश्वतः 
।वृत्वा । अति । अतिष्ठत् । दशअङ्गुलम् ॥

sahasra-śīrṣā | puruṣaḥ | sahasra-akṣaḥ | sahasra-pāt | saḥ| bhūmim | viśvataḥ 
| vṛtvā | ati | atiṣṭhat | daśa-aṅgulam

“Puruṣa, who has a thousand heads, athousand eyes, a thousand feet, investing 
the earth in all directions, exceeds(it by a space) measuring ten fingers.”

Commentary by Sāyaṇa: Ṛgveda-bhāṣya

Puruṣa = embodied spirit; or, virāj, theaggregate ofall living beings, spirit 
embodied in the egg of Brahmā, i.e., theuniversal spirit animating all 
creation. Thousand= an infinite number; thehuman soul, extending ###    from 
thenavel, takes up its abode inthe heart or the human breast; the supreme soul, 
having animated theuniverse, is present in man, either in a minute form or of 
definite dimensions

3. He is all in all, though all this world is not theomnipresent Himself. He is 
one alone and is not termed the all that is visible(to us). So Fichte: God is 
infinite and embraces the finite, but the finite cannot encompass the Infinite. 
Lewis vol. II. p. 573.

4. It is this Intellect which is in Siva, that wears thecusp of the moon in his 
crest; the same is in Vishnu that rides on his eagleGaruda, and in Brahma that 
is born of the lotus. The sun also is a particle ofthis Intellect; (but they 
are not the self-same Intellect themselves).

Rama rejoined:—

5   So it is; andeven boys say this also, that if the whole world is mere 
Intelligence (chetana matrakam); then whycall it by another name (as the 
world), and what is the use of givingadmonition of it to anybody, (when 
everyone is full of intelligence).

Verse 3.7.5Chapter VII

श्रीराम उवाच ।

बाला अपि वदन्त्येतद्यदि चेतनमात्रकम् ।

जगदित्येव केवात्र नाम स्यादुपदेशता ॥ ५ ॥

śrīrāma uvāca |

bālā api vadantyetadyadi cetanamātrakam |

jagadityeva kevātra nāma syādupadeśatā || 5 ||

Rama rejoined: —So it is; and even boys say this also,that if the whole world 
is mere Intelligence (chetana matrakam); then why call it by another name(as 
the world), and what is the use of giving admonition of it to anybody,

Vasishtha replied: —

6. If you have known the mere Intellect (Chinmatram), to be the same with 
theintelligent world (chetanaviswa), you have then known nothing for getting 
rid of this world.

श्रीवसिष्ठ उवाच ।

चिन्मात्रं चेतनं विश्वमितियज्ज्ञातवानसि ।

न किंचिदेव विज्ञातं भवता भवनाशनम् ॥ ५ ॥

śrīvasiṣṭha uvāca |

cinmātraṃ cetanaṃviśvamiti yajjñātavānasi |

na kiṃcideva vijñātaṃ bhavatā bhavanāśanam || 5 ||

Rama rejoined: —So it is; and even boys say this also,that if the whole world 
is mere Intelligence (chetana matrakam); then why callit by another name (as 
the world), and what is the use of giving admonition ofit to anybody,

7. Theworld is verily intelligent, O Rama, (with the mundane soul); but the 
animalsoul-PASU (Tirumular and tamil saiva siddantham speaks only as 
pasu-pathy=Jeevatma paramatma;  (Jiva) iscalled pasu or brutish observer of 
things pasyati, on account of its lookingafter sensual gratifications only as 
brutes, and giving rise only to the fearsof disease, decay and death (from its 
love of itself, and care forself-preservation).{Pashyat tosee is PASU, which 
changed in translation by some as animal etc }

Verse 3.7.7Chapter VII

चेतनं राम संसारो जीव एष पशुः स्मृतः ।

एतस्मादेव निर्यान्ति जरामरणभीतयः ॥ ७ ॥

cetanaṃ rāmasaṃsāro jīva eṣa paśuḥ smṛtaḥ |

etasmādeva niryānti jarāmaraṇabhītayaḥ || 7 ||

The world is verily intelligent, O Rama, (with the mundanesoul); but the animal 
soul (Jiva) is called pasu or brutish observer of thingspasyati, on account of 
its looking after sensual gratifications only as brutes,and giving rise only to 
the fears of disease, decay and death.

8. The animal soul (Jiva), though an incorporealsubstance, is an ignorant thing 
and subject to pain and sorrow. The mind manasalso, though it is capable of 
intelligence—chetaniyam, has become the root of all evils. (i. e. With its 
power of intellectionand nature of intelligence (chetanam), it is yet ever 
inclined to the wrongside by itself).

पशुरज्ञो ह्यमूर्तोऽपि दुःखस्यैवैष भाजनम् ।

चेतनत्वाच्चेतनीयं मनोऽनर्थः स्वयं स्थितः ॥ ८ ॥

paśurajño hyamūrto'pi duḥkhasyaivaiṣa bhājanam |

cetanatvāccetanīyaṃmano'narthaḥ svayaṃ sthitaḥ || 8 ||

The animal soul (Jiva), though an incorporeal substance, is an ignorant thing 
andsubject to pain and sorrow. The mind manas also,though it is capable of 
intelligence—chetaniyam, has become the root ofall evils. (i. e. With itspower 
of intellection and nature of intelligence.

9. Intellectual liberation (chetya mukta) from thoughts ofthe world, is one 
state (of the soul), and unintelligent gazing (unmukhata) atit, is another. He 
who knows the better of these two the states of the soul,has no cause of 
sorrow, (i. e. the rational from the irrational soul).

चेत्यनिर्मुक्तता या स्यादचेत्योन्मुखताथवा ।

अस्य सा भरितावस्था तां ज्ञात्वा नानुशोचति ॥ ९ ॥

cetyanirmuktatā yā syādacetyonmukhatāthavā |

asya sā bharitāvasthā tāṃ jñātvā nānuśocati || 9 ||

Intellectual liberation (chetya mukta) from thoughts ofthe world, is one state 
(of the soul), and unintelligent gazing (unmukhata) atit, is another. He who 
knows the better of these two the states of the soul,has no cause of sorrow,

10. He who has seen the all surpassing Supreme Being, hashis heartstrings all 
cut asunder, and the doubts of his mind all driven away.The sequences of his 
acts are washed away, (and leave no fear of histransmigration).

KR:     Smarta Sankya has only 23 elements fromBrahmam without Prakriti and 
Purusha. 

XXXX

           Generally, visishta dvaithis(those who follow Visishta Dvaitham) or 
Srivaishnava Brahmins are called Ayyaangar.Let us see how this term came to 
denote them. We can split the term asAyy+anga+ar; i.e ay (pronounced as I in 
English) is the shortened form of ainthumor five; anga refers to the five items 
or segments each containing in itselffive elements thus making a total of 5 
times 5 or 25. The 25th principle in ourphilosophy refers to the chetanam; so 
we can say that a chetanam  is rightly called ayyaangar.{KR  in one way 
intelligence but in another way asfrom the Vasishta yoga, that which is down 
felling the earth or determining thedestruction through the intelligence; BUT 
HERE INTELLIGENCE @ CHETANAM ISNOT”MIND” that survives along with the SOUL 
JEEVA. 

Let us now see briefly, what are the major five segmentsand the other five 
elements in each of them. The five major segments are:

1.PANCHANGAM

2. PANCHA KALA PARAYANAM

3. SAMSKARAM

4. ARTHA PANCHAKAM

5. BARA SAMARPANAM.

1. panchAngam: Srivaishnavites are enjoined to start alltheir rituals or karmas 
with sankalpam (vow) and conclude with sAdhvika thyAgam(sacrificial offering to 
God). In the sankalpam or invocatory statement at thebeginning, we need to 
mention and follow for that particular day, its

thithi (the religious date-order from amavAsya/ pournNami,prathamai,…. to 
chathurdasi : 15 in all),

the day of the week (in Sanskrit, such as bhAnu vAsara,sOma vAsara etc. 7 in 
all),

the star (asvini to rEvathi, 27 in all),

yogam (sidhdha, amirtha, maraNa: 3 in all),

And

karaNam (11 in all).

We know about these five elements for any particular dayonly from our 
panchAngam or almanac. Hence it is important for us to see thepanchangam daily 
as soon as we get up in the morning. We are aware that it isdifficult for 
common people like us to remember the 3 yogams and 11 karanamswhich are always 
changing in some order; hence our ancestors prescribed that westate this as Sri 
Vishnu yOga and sri Vishnu karana. Thus we see that the firstmajor segment 
ayyangArs need to know about is the panchAngam.

2. next comes pancha kAla parAyaNam. Our ancestors divideda day into five 
periods; these are:

A. ABIGAMANAM, B. UPADHANAM, C. IJYAI, D. SVADHYAYAM ANDE. YOGAM.

We are to follow the prescribed duties assigned to each ofthese five periods as 
each has a different purpose and work to perform.However, in a lighter vein we 
may state that in the mechanical present day, noone finds time to perform these 
five duties and there is dearth of time and soinstead of being pnacha kAla 
parAyaNam (five time duties), this has becomepanja kAla parAyaNam (time-drought 
duties). So the second major segment ispancha kAla parayaNam or doing the five 
duties as prescribed for the fiveperiods of the day.

3. samskAram: there are several rituals or ceremoniesprescribed to be 
performed, from the time a human being is conceived inmother’s womb, till its 
death. Of these, the one called pancha samskAram is theone which makes one a 
Srivaishnavaite. This is performed as per the usualcustom and practice in vogue 
in each family. This consists of

A. THAPAM, B. PUNDRAM, C. DASYA NAMAM, D. MANTHRAM AND E.YAGNAM.

a. thApam: this is the process of having the figures ofthe wheel (sudharsana 
chakram) and the conch (pAncha janyam) embossed on one’sright and left 
shoulders respectively. These metallic symbols are heated in asacred fire and 
when tolerably hot, the preceptor or the AchAryan embosses theimage on our 
shoulders as mentioned above.

b. pundram is the process of the preceptor teaching usabout wearing the 12 
sacred marks of white (thirumaN) and red/yellow (srichUrNam) in the 12 
prescribed places in our body by drawing vertical lineshence called dwAdasa or 
twelve, urdhva or vertical and pundram or marks). Thepreceptor tells us where 
and how to wear these. There are slokas telling us howto do/ remember this : 
panniru nAmam by Swami Desikan; the sanskrit slokabeginning with chathus…).

c. dAsya nAmam: the preceptor gives us a name adding dAsaafter our usual name; 
this indicates: dAsa asmi or I am the servant of the lordand I am not 
independent; if one’s name is Krishnan, he will thereafter callhimself Krishna 
dAsan)

d. manthram: this is the process of learning from thepreceptor, the rahasya 
thryam (the holy secret triad) of thirumanthiram, dwayam(the two liner) and 
sharama sloka (the final sloka).(from B G) 

e. yagnam: this is the way thiruvArAdhanam (sacredofferings to God) is to be 
performed; the preceptor teaches us this and afterthis we start doing this in 
our daily pooja.

As mentioned before, it is only after a Srivaishnavaiteundergoes saAsrayaNam, 
that he becomes an ayyangAr. It is only after this thathe becomes fit for doing 
bhagavadhArAdhanam or worshipping god In theprescribed manner.

4. artha panchakam: those who seek for eternal salvationor attain moksha are 
known as mumukshus. Srivaishnavas are mumukshus and areenjoined upon to learn/ 
know/ understand five aspects. These are:

A. OUR DESTINATION OR GOAL OF REACHING THE PARAMATHMA

B. THE ONE WHO REACHES THERE/ ATTAINS THAT, I.E. THEJEEVATHMA

C. THE WAY TO ATTAIN/ ACHIEVE IT

D. FORCES WHICH ARE INIMICAL TO OUR ATTAINING THE ABOVEOBJECTIVE, I.E. OUR PAST 
SINS

E. THE FRUIT OF OUR ATTAINING THAT GOAL OR PARAMATHMA.

a. paramAthmA: is the one who creates, preserves and whenthe time comes, 
destroys and He does it in his divine play or game. He haslimitless knowledge, 
happiness, the one without any blemish or bad qualities,one with boundless good 
aspects. He is the one desired target for the entireworld, is perennial or 
endless, with His own beautiful image and form. He hasfor His body the twin 
vibhUthis of leela and nithya vibhudis. He never is awayeven for a moment from 
his divine consort, pirAtti. He is the guide, master andthe one who appoints 
for everything. He is the one whom we aspire to be with inthe moksha world. 
This is all what we have to know as the first aspect to knowabout the 
paramAthma.

b. jeevAthmA or the one who is the complement of what wesaw above, i.e. 
jeevAthmA is also a happy form, a miniscule, not independentbut with servitude 
as his attitude, the one who is borne by and the one who isappointed and the 
one who has none but the lord as his boss/ master. Thejeevathma is of three 
kinds: bhakthar, nithyar and mukthar. Bhakthas are thosewho because of their 
acts of sins and good deeds are born again and again invarious forms including 
the grass, the stone or the mankind. Mukthas are thosewho because of their 
following what is laid down by the sAstras and hence arerelieved from the 
trials and tribulations undergone usually by the familypeople and hence they 
rejoice in the thought about the company of the lord.Nithyas are those (such as 
VishvaksEnar, garudan et al) who do not have familyties and worries and hence 
are able to enjoy the blissful company of our lordand having the blessing of 
living for ever in His world. This is the knowledgewe have to have about 
jeevAthma.

c. the way to reach/attain Him: to reach our lord inVaikuntam the ways are only 
through devotion and surrender. We cannot dobhakthi yOga or the path of 
devotion and hence prapathi or surrender is theonly way to reach Him. This is 
the knowledge we need to have about the way toattain Him.

d. the obstacle due to our past sins, to reach Him: notworshipping is the chief 
sin. By not obeying what the sAstras have ordained andby following courses 
exactly opposite to the prescribed rules due to ignorance,habits, desire to do 
so etc. due to these sins, human beings are born and dieagain and again. If we 
know this, it is the fourth important element.

e. the fruit/ benefit of attaining Him: after our lifeleaves our body, our soul 
travels through what is known as the archirAdhi margaor the heavenly path to 
reach Sri vaikuntam and there do for ever and ever, oursacred duties to our 
lord. This is the fifth element of artha panchakam.

5. prapaththi: when once the jeevAthma becomes aware ofthe artha panchakam it 
endeavors to discard its past sins of not thinking aboutgod, nor following His 
path; so it starts eschewing its past evil ways asjeevathma is scared of the 
three types of sins (praraptham, sanchitham andAgAmi) : those which come from 
earlier births, those which we commit now and toovercome this, the way is to 
seek salvation by going to a preceptor and doingprayaschitham or expiation and 
does baranyAsam or barasamarpaNam. This iscalled prapaththi, which, again, has 
five elements:

A) ANUKULYA SANKALPAM

B) PRATHIKULYA VARJANAM

C) MAHAVISVASAM

D) KARPANYAM

E) KOPRUTHVAVARANAM.

a) AnukUlya sankalpam: To make a vow to god that he willthereafter do 
everything as prescribed by Him is what this means. He does theprescribed 
duties and rituals with the 3 types of thoughts always in him; theseare:

he does everything only to please our lord and not for hisown pleasure;

karthru thyAgam or the consciousness that he doeseverything not because it is 
by him but because it is by Him,

mamatha thyAgam i.e. the god gets things done and phalathyAgam or the fruit of 
whatever we do is for the lord and not for us.

This feature is called the sAthvikathyAgam and he shouldalways think that he 
will do everything that gives happiness to our lord.

b) prAthikUlya varjanam is to make a vow that he will notact against His will 
or dictates and not to do what are proscribed by thesAstrAs

c) mahAvisvAsam is the abiding unswerving faith in Himthat Sriman Narayana will 
deliver us at the end of this life and take us intoHis fold and hence not 
seeking other lesser gods to satisfy our petty needs anddesires.

d) kArpaNyam is the consciousness knowledge that we do nothave the capital (to 
invest) in the form of bhakthi yOgam and hence eschew/give up ahnkara, mamakara 
(the proud and vainglorious I and ME of everything wedo) and hence with this 
humility, bow before Him for his grace.

e) kopruthvavaraNam is the plea we make to our lordexpressing our inability to 
do bhakthi yoga and hence pleading for his graceand pity to give us salvation 
from the cycle of births and deaths and to retainus for ever with Him.

‘Aar’ in Tamil is added at the end of anyword as a mark of respect. If we, the 
jeevAthmA observe all the 25 aspectsstated above, then the 25th letter of ‘ma’ 
or jeevAthmA practicing the above 25attributes/aspects, becomes fit to be 
called ayyangAr. As these are allpossible by us, let us all make a determined 
effort to live as real ayyangArsby following whatever is ordained for us and 
live happily in this world and theother world and not be merely namesake 
ayyangArs!

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>From a sociological standpoint, gotrams for most southIndian brahmins (and for 
>that matter, probably all brahmins), are probablyuseless, since each gotram by 
>now has probably assimilated countless numbers ofnon-brahmins, or was a 
>concoction from the very beginning.

   Many brahmins ofSouth India, particularly Sri Vaishnava brahmins, are of 
mixed origin.  This can be gleaned from the very early daysof the movement, 
when accusations were made by other brahmins that Pancaratra Vaishnavas  (i.e., 
Sri Vaishnavas) were not"true" brahmins.  This contentionis discussed in detail 
by Yamunacharya {low caste arose to higher KR} in his Agama PraamaNya.  The 
fact that he needs to defend the Brahminical origin of Vaishnavasimplies that 
the movement had a great deal of social fluidity. Dr. Srinivasan also has 
someother speculations in this regard.” I am nominally of Srivatsa gotram, but 
Idoubt if I have any real connection to Bhargava, Chyavana, and other rishis.  
My connection with Nammalwar and Ramanuja on botha psychological and social 
level is probably much more direct.

     Speaking of gotram concoction,I surmise that the "SathamarShaNa"gotram 
that is so common among Sri Vaishnavas (my mother's side included) is because 
of Nathamuni andYamunacharya's direct spiritual connection with Nammalvar, who 
is called"Sathakopa" in Sanskrit.

I also doubt if they are direct descendants of the Vedic rishis;they may have 
adopted sathamarshana as their gotram to indicate greaterconnection with the 
Alvar.

The gotrams themselves are regionalized, indicating a laterorigin to the 
separate gotrams. Dr. G.S Ghurye, a prominent Indian sociologist,has noted that 
many gotrams are exclusive to a particular region. The implicationsof this are 
pretty obvious.  An isolated groupof people could easily invent or assimilate 
into a gotram, a very valuablething considering the  status that 
Brahminhoodconveyed. 

    From aVaishnavite standpoint, gotrams are in the end to be transcended and 
avoided.There is a verse:

        ekaanti vyapadeshtavyo naiva graamakulaadibhih

        vishnunaa vyapadestavyo ...  Unfortunately, I cannot remember the 
lastpaadam of this verse, but it is quoted by Azhagiya Manavaala Perumal 
Nayanaarin the Acharya Hridayam.  The verse meansthat a "ekaanti", a 
single-minded Vaishnava, should not adorn himselfwith connections to his 
village or his kula (gotram).  Rather, he should recognize himself asVishnu's 
and Vishnu's alone, and call himself Ramanuja-daasan, Sri Vaishnava 
Daasan,Ranganaatha Daasan, and refer to a divya-ksetra as his town.

I believe Desikar replaces his standard"abhivaadanam" in his Prabandhasaaram 
with references to the Azhvaarsand the Prabandham, since they are his more 
significant spiritual forebears.

I also think gotram tends to set apart brahmins from non-brahmins,a vestige of 
an often distasteful social  past that I would rather move away from.  For this 
 very reason, I avoid reference to it, as wellas to the term "Iyengar", whose 
meaning is shrouded in confusion. 

The term "Sri Vaishnava" is so much moreappealing.

K Rajaram  IRS 26524      27524

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