CULTURAL QA 06202413
TOPIC- EPIC. BASE – QUORA QA (Compilation)
Q1 Can you tell a moral story told by lord Krishna to Rukmini?
G My note- I request members to consider the incident told as a
motivational one later added, than telling it is not in the Gita press
book. Who knows how many additions are there in Gita press print, from what
is told by Vedavyasa?
KR Before going to question I was surprised at G’s writing kike DMK
member. In that case please don’t be a brahmin at all and why should you
adopt Bharatham Ramayanam etc; fun? First of all, there is nothing as you
wrote added in the original Mahabharatham. It is Quora addition only. So
fundamentally there is a fabrication floated all around intentionally under
the cloak and dagger of motivation. As a brahmin, older, responsible
citizen of India, should care more for the surroundings and the posterity.
ADDED means rendering a dubious remark like intentionally inserted to
thwart its goodness; if so, he has no right to support it; and if inserted
in good faith, we’ll all Hindu scriptures were only added and added only
right from Rig vedam; It was not heard and rendered by those named Rishis
on the same day; Rishis age itself will speak about. So also, Mahabharatham
started at 8400 and ended at 100000 with good feed and with good
intentions; many verses were placed in that. So, can Mr G add this into and
say WHO KNOWS and WALK OFF? He cabs create out of the real some fiction and
call it as his imagination that is creativity; but not as Moral story added
by whom and where is it in the original Mahabharatham sir?
2 In chap 11 of B G अर्जुन उवाच |
मदनुग्रहाय परमं गुह्यमध्यात्मसञ्ज्ञितम् |
यत्त्वयोक्तं वचस्तेन मोहोऽयं विगतो मम || 1||
arjuna uvācha
mad-anugrahāya paramaṁ guhyam adhyātma-sanjñitam
yat tvayoktaṁ vachas tena moho ’yaṁ vigato mama
BG 11.1: Arjun said: Having heard the supremely confidential spiritual
knowledge, which You have revealed out of compassion for me, my illusion is
now dispelled.
(II) BG 11.2: I have heard from You in detail about the appearance and
disappearance of all living beings, O Lotus-eyed One, and also about Your
eternal magnificence.
(III) BG 11.3: O Supreme Lord, You are precisely what You declare
yourself to be. Now I desire to see Your divine cosmic form, O Greatest of
persons.
(IV) अमी च त्वां धृतराष्ट्रस्य पुत्रा:
सर्वे सहैवावनिपालसङ्घै: |
भीष्मो द्रोण: सूतपुत्रस्तथासौ
सहास्मदीयैरपि योधमुख्यै: || 26||
वक्त्राणि ते त्वरमाणा विशन्ति
दंष्ट्राकरालानि भयानकानि |
केचिद्विलग्ना दशनान्तरेषु
सन्दृश्यन्ते चूर्णितैरुत्तमाङ्गै: || 27||
amī cha tvāṁ dhṛitarāśhtrasya putrāḥ
sarve sahaivāvani-pāla-saṅghaiḥ
bhīṣhmo droṇaḥ sūta-putras tathāsau
sahāsmadīyair api yodha-mukhyaiḥ
vaktrāṇi te tvaramāṇā viśhanti
danṣhṭrā-karālāni bhayānakāni
kechid vilagnā daśhanāntareṣhu
sandṛiśhyante chūrṇitair uttamāṅgaiḥ
BG 11.26-27: I see all the sons of Dhritarashtra, along with their allied
kings, including Bheeshma, Dronacharya, Karn, and also the generals from
our side, rushing headlong into Your fearsome mouths. I see some with their
heads smashed between Your terrible teeth.
It goes further; and HE answered the whole world already before the war
itself who were dead already; That is the end. Ano if you fabricate your
own story well you have all the rights but do not mix it as moral, Pep etc
in this line sir Thank you K Rajaram IRS 13624
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Q2 Is it correct that when Rama’s time of death was at hand,
Hanuman barred Yama (the god of death) from claiming him?
KR Again one more fabrication insinuated here which is not found in
Valmiki Ramayanam; either he can say it is fabricated and or it is in
Ramayanam written by so and so AVIVEKAM leads to the mistaken identity
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Q3 What is the relationship between Satyabhama and Draupadi in
Mahabharat?
Satyabhama and Draupadi were friends according to Mahabharata. Infact,
Satyabhama is the only wife of Lord Krishna who directly interacts with
Draupadi in the epic.
Satyabhama and Krishna visits Draupadi and Pandavas in the forest -
477(180), Markandeya Samasya parva, Mahabharata.
2. Satyabhama and Draupadi friendly interaction -
519(222), Draupadi Satyabhama Samvada, Mahabharata.
3. Satyabhama, Draupadi, Krishna and Arjuna had a special palace for
themselves in which no one else could enter -
721(58), Yana Sandhi Parva, Mahabharata.
4. If You go by the Southern recession, Satyabhama was with Krishna,
Draupadi and Arjuna during their leisure at Yamuna bank -
वासुदेवप्रिया नित्यं सत्यभामा च भामिनी। द्रौपदी च सुभद्रा च वासांस्याभरणानि
च। प्रायच्छन्त महाराज स्त्रीणां ताः स्म मदोत्कटाः॥ 1-248-35
O great king, the beautiful Satyabhāmā, who was always devoted to Vasudeva,
Draupadi and Subhadrā, all of whom were intoxicated with pride, gave away
to the women garments and ornaments.
Adhyaya 248, Adi parva, Mahabharata ( Southern recession).
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KR If at all someone writes about an issue, that issue must be
projected; to tell us they are friends and four of them were friends few
lines are written? By quoting some numbers unaware of what is says, and
adding a Sanskrit verse, without knowing what does it means, in what way it
is connected to King and why they were intoxicated? (happiness or drunk?) ;
Draupati spoke with many including Gandhari, So without reading the
material and posting only is called copy and paste;
2 Mahabharatham has many recensions; Southern Recension is called
Kumbakonam edition; in that arrangements will be totally varying from
another edition called “critical edition of Puna”; and Ganguly edition and
critical edition will be running a little ahead or receding back; but SR
will be totally different even in volume.
3 The Satyabhama, Draupadi conversation does not speak about their
friendship; but it is a Q and A about women, culture, freedom, marrying 5
husbands and asking about its ‘virtue so on so forth. As a matter of fact,
they converse or rather Draupadi exposes her knowledge of how to be
attractive with the husband. The southern recension has this chapter in ADI
PARVA BOOK 1; CRITICAL EDITION AND GANGULY HAVE I IN VANA PARVA 3RD BOOK;
BUT critical edition HAS AS CHAP 231 AND 232 WHEREAS Ganguly has it as
232,233,234 chapters. That Sanskrit verse you wrote as C P does not say
they were intoxicated, but after several matters discussed, they give to
their friends and servants jewels being queens. And Vaisampayana speaks
about it I shall give you the content of conversations TOMORROW which is
meaningful depicting advises to the married women through Draupadi telling
Bhama. KR IRS 13624
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Q5 What was Krishna's order obeyed by an atheist?
KR Again act of immorality as on top it is mentioned as EPIC Base;
but it is a caricature of someone which should have been mentioned as a
story told and not as retold from the EPIC.
K Rajaram IRS 13624
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On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 04:45, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 <
[email protected]> wrote:
> CULTURAL QA 06-2024-13
>
> TOPIC- EPIC. BASE – QUORA QA (Compilation)
>
> *Q1 Can you tell a moral story told by lord Krishna to
> Rukmini?*
>
> A1 Deepak Verma,6h
>
> When Lord Krishna returned home after the battle of Mahabharata, his wife
> Rukmani confronted him “How could you be party to the killing of Guru Drona
> and Bheeshma, who were such righteous people and had a lifetime of
> righteousness behind them.”
>
> Initially Lord Krishna avoided her questions but when she did not relent,
> he replied “No doubt they had a lifetime of righteousness behind them but
> they *both had committed one single sin that destroyed all their lifetime
> of righteousness”*
>
> Rukmani asked “And what was that sin?”
>
> Lord Krishna replied “They were both present in the court when a lady
> (Draupadi) was being disrobed and being elders they had the authority to
> stop it but they did not. This single crime is enough to destroy all
> righteousness of this world”
>
> Rukmani asked “But what about Karna?
>
> He was known for his charity. No one went empty handed from his doorstep.
> Why did you have him killed?”
>
> Lord Krishna said “No doubt Karna was known for his charity. He never said
> ‘No’ to anyone who asked him for anything. But when Abhimanyu fell after
> successfully fighting an army of the greatest warriors and he lay dying, he
> asked for water from Karna who stood nearby. There was a puddle of clean
> water where Karna stood but not wanting to annoy his friend Duryodhan,
> Karna did not give water to a dying man. In doing so his charity of a
> lifetime was destroyed. Later in battle, it was the same puddle of water in
> which the wheel of his chariot got stuck and he was killed.”
>
> Understand that your one act of injustice can destroy your whole life of
> honesty.
>
> This story is great example of Karma Theory in Path To Prosperity. So Let
> us create a Karma with Awareness what is righteous.
>
> My note- I request members to consider the incident told as a motivational
> one later added, than telling it is not in the Gita press book. Who knows how
> many additions are there in Gita press print, from what is told by
> Vedavyasa?
>
>
>
> * Q2 Is it correct that when Rama’s time of death was at hand,
> Hanuman barred Yama (the god of death) from claiming him?*
>
> A2 Gopal Sardar, Mon
>
> There is a story in Padma Puranam which describes this event.
>
> Yamraj tried many times but was not able to reach Ram and take away his
> life because Hanuman guarded Ram's life. Ram understood the problem Yamraj
> was facing and decided to trick Hanuman.
>
> Lord Ram dropped his ring. The ring fell into a crack in the floor. Ram
> then asked Hanuman to go and fetch the ring. Hanuman could change his large
> body into as small as a fly. So he jumped into crack. He followed the
> crack until he reached patal-loka. When he reached patal-loka he was
> greeted by king of snakes. The king of snakes knew the secret of life and
> death.
>
> He asked Hanuman what was he looking for?
>
> Hanuman replied, I am hanuman and I am looking for Ram's ring.
>
> He said, come with me I will give you ring. He took Hanuman to a room full
> of Ram's rings. And asked him to take any one.
>
> Hanuman was surprised and asked him how can there be so many rings?
>
> *He replied each ring represent one kal chakra. In every chakra, there is
> a treta-yuga in which there is a Ram and a Hanuman*.
>
> Every time Ram will drop his ring and a monkey will come to patal loka
> searching for his ring. By the time monkey returns back to earth Ram is
> gone.
>
> Hanuman then understood the kal-chakra and he let go his dear God.
>
>
>
> *Q3 What is the relationship between Satyabhama and Draupadi
> in Mahabharat?*
>
> A3 Gokul Renjith, Lives in India (1999–present)4h
>
> Satyabhama and Draupadi were friends according to Mahabharata. Infact,
> *Satyabhama
> is the only wife of Lord Krishna who directly interacts with Draupadi in
> the epic.*
>
> Satyabhama and Krishna visits Draupadi and Pandavas in the forest -
>
> Then he embraced Gudakesha and spoke comforting words to Droupadi. Having
> seen the beloved warrior Phalguna, who had returned after a long time,
> Dasharha, the destroyer of enemies, embraced him again and again. Similarly
> Satyabhama, Krishna’s beloved queen, embraced Draupadi, the beloved wife of
> the Pandavas. Then all the Pandavas, with their wife and their priest,
> worshipped Pundarikaksha and seated themselves around him.
>
> 477(180), Markandeya Samasya parva, Mahabharata.
>
>
>
> 2. Satyabhama and Draupadi friendly interaction -
>
> Vaishampayana said, ‘When the brahmanas and the great-souled Pandavas were
> seated, Draupadi and Satyabhama entered together. They were extremely happy
> and seated themselves comfortably. O Indra among kings! They had seen each
> other after a long time. They were pleasant in speech and spoke to each
> other about the deeds of the kings from the Kuru and Yadu lineages.
>
> 519(222), Draupadi Satyabhama Samvada, Mahabharata.
>
> 3. Satyabhama, Draupadi, Krishna and Arjuna had a special palace for
> themselves in which no one else could enter -
>
> After purifying myself, I entered the quarters of those gods among men,
> looking at my toes and joining my hands in salutation. Abhimanyu and the
> twins are not allowed entry into the abode where the two Krishnas, and
> Krishna and the beautiful Satyabhama, reside.
>
> 721(58), Yana Sandhi Parva, Mahabharata.
>
> 4. If You go by the Southern recession, Satyabhama was with Krishna,
> Draupadi and Arjuna during their leisure at Yamuna bank -
>
> वासुदेवप्रिया नित्यं सत्यभामा च भामिनी। द्रौपदी च सुभद्रा च
> वासांस्याभरणानि च। प्रायच्छन्त महाराज स्त्रीणां ताः स्म मदोत्कटाः॥
> 1-248-35
>
>
>
> O great king, the beautiful Satyabhāmā, who was always devoted to
> Vasudeva, Draupadi and Subhadrā, all of whom were intoxicated with pride,
> gave away to the women garments and ornaments.
>
> Adhyaya 248, Adi parva, Mahabharata ( Southern recession).
>
>
>
> *Q5 What was Krishna's order obeyed by an atheist**?*
>
> A5 Dr Kalpana,7h
>
> Once, a very poor woman, who had unwavering faith in "Shri Krishna", was
> in a very difficult situation. The entire family did not get food for
> several days.
>
> One day, she sent his message to "Shri Krishna" through radio, asking him
> to help him. This broadcast was heard by an atheist, boastful, and arrogant
> industrialist and he thought, why not play such a joke on this woman that
> her faith in "Shri Krishna" would be shaken. He told his secretary to
> deliver a lot of food and ration for a month to her house, and when the
> woman asked who had sent it,
>
> Then say that the devil has sent it! As soon as the goods reached the
> woman, first her family ate to their satisfaction, then she started keeping
> all the ration in the cupboard. When the woman asked who had sent all this.
> When the secretary could no longer control himself, he said - 'Aren't you
> curious as to who has sent all this?'
>
> That woman gave an excellent answer - 'Why should I think or say so much?
> I have full faith in my Shri Krishna, *when my "Krishna" gives orders,
> then even the "devils" have to follow that order.*
>
>
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