Mind is a monkey The question of whether the mind is mechanized by our own actions or occurs naturally is quite complex and touches on several philosophical and scientific perspectives.
Philosophical Views: Dualism: Some philosophical views, like Cartesian dualism, suggest that the mind and body are separate substances, with the mind being non-physical and possibly not mechanizable in the same way as the physical body.Materialism: Other views, such as materialism or physicalism, argue that the mind is ultimately reducible to physical processes, such as neural activity in the brain, and therefore could be mechanized. Scientific Perspective:Neuroscience: From a neuroscientific standpoint, the mind is understood as emerging from complex interactions of neurons and neural networks in the brain. These neural processes can be studied and understood to some extent, suggesting a mechanistic basis for mental phenomena.Cognitive Science: Interdisciplinary fields like cognitive science study mental processes such as perception, memory, and decision-making, often treating them as computational or mechanistic processes. Nature vs. Nurture:The development of the mind is influenced by both genetic factors (nature) and environmental factors (nurture). Both play crucial roles in shaping how our minds function and develop over time.Personal Agency:Individuals also play a role in shaping their own minds through experiences, education, and deliberate efforts such as learning, practicing skills, and forming habits. This suggests a level of self-directed mechanization or molding of the mind. The mind appears to have both natural (biological and environmental) and self-directed (personal agency) components to its mechanization. It emerges from the complex interplay of biological processes in the brain and the individual's experiences and actions throughout life. Thus Mind is a monkey; if we make it our subordinate, mind is devoid of delusions; orelse, as a boss, mechanise your actions. Mind takes your Karma, to deduce plus and minus. THE ANALOGY OF TWO BIRDS (DWA SUPARNA) The analogy of two birds (dwa suparna) is very famous in Vedanta. In this article I would like to share with you the meaning and implication of this analogy. The analogy of two birds comes in the Mundaka Upanishad as two verses – 3.1.1 and 3.1.2. The analogy explains, on a tree with lots of branches and fruits, two birds are sitting on two different branches. The two birds are of the similar nature except their gunas. One bird is sitting on the higher branch and the other is sitting on the lower branch. The bird sitting on the lower branch is hopping from branch to branch and tasting the fruits of the tree. Some fruits taste good and some are bitter or sour. Some are very sour. Immediately the bird gets disappointed and it is taken aback. It sits quite for some time. At times it looks up at the bird sitting on the higher branch. Meanwhile, all the time, the bird sitting on the higher branch is just observing the bird on the lower branch, without moving from its place. The bird on the higher branch does not taste any fruit. The bird on the lower branch is attracted by the calmness, peacefulness and the luminance of the bird on the higher branch. It goes and sits near the bird on the higher branch for some time. After sometime by its inherent nature, it hops from branch to branch and tastes both good fruits and bitter fruits. Whenever it tastes a bitter fruit, it goes near the bird on the higher branch and sits there for some time and this drama continues. The lower bird by its acquaintance at times with the bird on the higher branch, the nature of the lower bird gets gradually transformed like the higher bird. After sometime, the nature of the lower bird gets completely transformed and it becomes same as the higher bird and gets absorbed in the higher bird. In fact, the lower bird realizes that, there is no lower bird itself and it is the imagination of the higher bird. The Mundaka Upanishad Third Mundaka: First Khanda द्वा सुपर्णा सयुजा सखाया समानं वृक्षं परिषस्वजाते । तयोरन्यः पिप्पलं स्वाद्वत्त्यनश्नन्नन्यो अभिचाकशीति ॥ १॥ dvā suparṇā sayujā sakhāyā samānaṁ vṛkṣam pariṣasvajāte tayor anyaḥ pippalaṁ svādv attyanaśnann anyo'bhicākaśīti. || 1 || समाने वृक्षे पुरुषो निमग्नोऽनीशया शोचति मुह्यमानः । जुष्टं यदा पश्यत्यन्यमीशमस्य महिमानमिति वीतशोकः ॥ २॥ samāne vṛkṣe puruṣo nimagno'nīśayā śocati muhyamānaḥ, juṣṭam yadā paśyaty anyam īśam asya mahimānam iti, vīta-śokaḥ. || 2 || यदा पश्यः पश्यते रुक्मवर्णं कर्तारमीशं पुरुषं ब्रह्मयोनिम् । तदा विद्वान् पुण्यपापे विधूय निरञ्जनः परमं साम्यमुपैति ॥ ३॥ yadā paśyaḥ paśyate rukma-varṇaṁ kartāram īśam puruṣam brahma-yonim, tadā vidvān puṇya-pāpe vidhūya nirañjanaḥ paramaṁ sāmyam upaiti. || 3 || This analogy explains the mind of a spiritual seeker. The implication of this analogy is, the bird on the higher branch is compared with the Atma. The bird on the lower branch is compared with the jiva. The Atma is always calm and it is the witness of the jiva. The jiva performs karma and it tastes the results of its karma. The jiva is the combination of the sthula sarira (gross body), sukshma sarira (subtle body), karana sarira (causal body) and citabasa. The sthula sarira is the combination of the five basic elements. The sukshma sarira is the combination of the seventeen components (the five pranas, five motor organs, five sense organs, mind and intellect). The karana sarira is that darkness we experience in deep sleep. It has the subtle form of all our karmic impression. The reflection of the Atma falls on the sukshma sarira and it is called the citabasa. From the sukshma sarira the consciousness is transferred to the gross body. The citabasa makes the body and mind active. Without the citabasa the body and mind are inert. The consciousness we experience in the body and mind is the citabasa. In deep sleep this consciousness disappears. However, when we wake up we are aware of our sleep. This is due to the pure consciousness, Atma. The lower bird which is compared to the jiva is a karta (doer) and bhokta (experiencer). When the citabasa is attached with the motor organs then the jiva is a karta. When the citabasa is attached with the mind and sense organs the jiva is a bhokta. A jiva is a karta and bhokta and so desire arises in the mind. Whenever a jiva tastes the result of a negative karma, it is taken aback, becomes depressed and it does some spiritual practices to balance its mind. Again by the instinct of its karma it involves in doing fresh karma and tastes the fruits of the old karmas. This process goes on. By involving in spiritual practices, gradually its nature gets transformed and it becomes calm and peaceful. The jiva continuously involve in spiritual practices, after some time it realizes that, “I am that which I am trying to meditate on”. The jiva realizes that it is the Atma itself and the jiva is the mere reflection of the Atma. The jiva realizes that the world is not different from its Self. This is the ultimate realization. The jiva become Atma or Brahman. This is the implication of the two birds (dwa suparna) analogy. It is a very important analogy in Vedanta. Vedanta is nothing but the shift in consciousness from the lower self to the higher self. Mid devotes; mind deports; Mind deface out; Mind is a determinate; mind excites; mind cannot be corroded unless we allow it to rest and go rust. K Rajaram IRS 18624 On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 at 07:57, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < [email protected]> wrote: > > > -- > *Mar*The Mechanization of the Mind > > > > Technology is making every human organ redundant, as every work is > performed by machines. It has cut the basic emotional bond with nature, > paving the way to the techno madness of destroying all nature and calling > it development, progress, leftism, atheism, rationalism etc.Your very self > definition as a body with organs that responds to nature is being changed > into a semi robot controllable by mechanics. > > As the basic emotional bond with nature is cut, and as Newtonian mechanics > is made into the role model for every science, we are now removing all > nature from the mind and converting it into a machine, without emotional > intelligence. We have located the areas in the Brain where specific > perceptions and analysis take place and the points where specific emotions > can be triggered by applying electrodes to specific points. We are on the > way of designing and manufacturing machines that control human behaviour, > with no connection to nature. We are applauding and heralding the takeover > by artificial intelligence by Robots. And we have developed expertise in > remote control, manipulation and processing the information as signals for > mechanical control. > > It is really pity that Einstein recognized long back about the conflict > between Newtonian Physics and Eletromagnetism.Instead of taking science > towards consciousness, spiritualism etc we have developed mechanical > engineering based on Newtonian Physics. We have changed electronics into > another mechanics. Physics whose original meaning was meditation, abandoned > Physis which meant the essential Spiritual Reality. > > We are landing into a very virulent form of slavery. Minds are on the way > of being controlled by external machines, and the control manuals can be > standardized. The control and administration too will be handled by > computers. We are simply active in causing our own extinction. > > Imagine how our fore fathers lived about two hundred years ago. They > breathed and perceived and prayed nature or God for solution and salvation. > Now we are on our way of living without nature (or God), the Atheist’s > paradise. > > The days when your head contains machines are not far off.And all > encompassing slavery is on the horizon. > > YM > > Chat GPT > > The Mechanization of the Mind > > > > Technology is making every human organ redundant, as every work is > performed by machines. It has cut the basic emotional bond with nature, > paving the way to the techno madness of destroying all nature and calling > it development, progress, leftism, atheism, rationalism etc.Your very self > definition as a body with organs that responds to nature is being changed > into a semi robot controllable by mechanics. > > As the basic emotional bond with nature is cut, and as Newtonian mechanics > is made into the role model for every science, we are now removing all > nature from the mind and converting it into a machine, without emotional > intelligence. We have located the areas in the Brain where specific > perceptions and analysis take place and the points where specific emotions > can be triggered by applying electrodes to specific points. We are on the > way of designing and manufacturing machines that control human behaviour, > with no connection to nature. We are applauding and heralding the takeover > by artificial intelligence by Robots. And we have developed expertise in > remote control, manipulation and processing the information as signals for > mechanical control. > > It is really pity that Einstein recognized long back about the conflict > between Newtonian Physics and Eletromagnetism.Instead of taking science > towards consciousness, spiritualism etc we have developed mechanical > engineering based on Newtonian Physics. We have changed electronics into > another mechanics. Physics whose original meaning was meditation, abandoned > Physis which meant the essential Spiritual Reality. > > We are landing into a very virulent form of slavery. Minds are on the way > of being controlled by external machines, and the control manuals can be > standardized. The control and administration too will be handled by > computers. We are simply active in causing our own extinction. > > Imagine how our fore fathers lived about two hundred years ago. They > breathed and perceived and prayed nature or God for solution and salvation. > Now we are on our way of living without nature (or God), the Atheist’s > paradise. > > The days when your head contains machines are not far off.And all > encompassing slavery is on the horizon. > > YM > > Chat GPT > > Your essay brings forth significant concerns about the increasing > mechanization of the human mind and its implications for our connection to > nature and spirituality. Let's delve into some of the key points and expand > on them with context and examples. > > > > ### The Mechanization of Human Experience > > > > 1. **Redundancy of Human Organs and Emotional Bonds**: > > - **Technological Replacement**: Machines and AI are increasingly > taking over tasks traditionally performed by humans, from simple > calculations to complex decision-making processes. This has led to a > decrease in the use of our own cognitive and physical capabilities. > > - **Loss of Nature Connection**: Historically, humans have had a > profound connection to nature, which is essential for emotional and > psychological well-being. Urbanization and technology have distanced us > from this natural bond. > > > > 2. **The Role of Newtonian Mechanics**: > > - **Historical Influence**: Newtonian mechanics, based on the > principles laid out by Isaac Newton, has been the foundation of classical > physics. It views the universe as a predictable, mechanical system. > > - **Conflict with Electromagnetism**: Einstein's work on relativity > highlighted the limitations of Newtonian mechanics, especially in > explaining electromagnetic phenomena and the nature of light. > > > > 3. **Shift from Spiritual to Mechanical**: > > - **Einstein’s Insights**: Einstein's recognition of the conflict > between Newtonian mechanics and electromagnetism pointed towards the need > for a more holistic understanding of the universe, including consciousness > and spirituality. > > - **Current Trends**: Modern science and technology have largely > focused on mechanistic approaches, often sidelining spiritual and holistic > perspectives. This shift has significant implications for how we perceive > and interact with the world. > > > > ### The Future of Human Experience > > > > 1. **Control by Machines**: > > - **Neuroscience and Control**: Advances in neuroscience have > identified brain regions responsible for various emotions and behaviours, > leading to the potential for external control via technology. > > - **Artificial Intelligence**: The development of AI and machine > learning has enabled machines to perform tasks that require human-like > intelligence, further reducing our reliance on our own cognitive functions. > > > > 2. **The Risk of Slavery to Technology**: > > - **Automation and Control**: As machines become more integrated into > our daily lives, there is a growing risk of becoming overly dependent on > technology, leading to a loss of autonomy and increased control by external > systems. > > - **Standardization and Manipulation**: The potential for standardized > control of human behaviour through technology raises ethical and > philosophical questions about freedom and autonomy. > > > > 3. **The Need for Balance**: > > - **Holistic Science**: To avoid the pitfalls of excessive > mechanization, there is a need for a more balanced approach that integrates > technological advancements with spiritual and emotional intelligence. > > - **Sustainable Development**: Emphasizing sustainable development that > respects and preserves our connection to nature is crucial for maintaining > emotional and psychological well-being. > > > > ### Conclusion > > > > Your concerns highlight a critical juncture in human development. As we > advance technologically, it is essential to maintain a balance that > respects our emotional and spiritual needs. This balance can help ensure > that technology serves to enhance human experience rather than diminish it. > Embracing a holistic approach to science and development can lead to a more > integrated and fulfilling way of living. > > > > For further reading, consider exploring these sources: > > - [Einstein's Insights on Science and Spirituality]( > https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/einstein-and-the-quantum-revolution/ > ) > > - [The Role of Nature in Emotional Well-being]( > https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/urban-survival/201207/the-healing-power-nature > ) > > - [Impacts of AI and Automation on Human Autonomy]( > https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/01/automation-impact-on-jobs-report/) > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. 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