Consciousness as Design**:
- **Stephen Hawking’s Query**: The question of whether the grand
consciousness represents a grand design remains open. Is there an ultimate
life form with an ultimate grand consciousness orchestrating the universe?
- **Experiential Understanding**: Understanding this grand design
requires feeling and experiencing rather than detached scientific analysis.
This calls for a paradigm shift in how we approach science and knowledge. YMji
Chat
KR Consciousness is defined well in our Vedantha. There is no doubt.
But it is realisation by each individual. And hence Hawking before his
death and many others till date, could not scientifically proven it. How
ever, the proof was made available by the American scientists by
experiment, which they did not conclude and released to the Earth as
authentic; reason: They do not wish to admit the abstract as truth; and
what is the use of groping for a black cat in the dark room which is not
there?
Consciousness: I Theories of consciousness IN SCIENCE
Despite advances in our understanding of the neural correlates of
consciousness, the question remains: How does consciousness arise from
brain activity? A BIG QUESTION WHICH REMAINS UNSOLVED TILL DATE.
Scientists have proposed several theories. Two prominent ideas are global
neuronal workspace theory (GNWT) and integrated information theory (IIT).
Global neuronal workspace
In brief, GNWT proposes that there is a network of long-range connections
that span the brain, called the global workspace. Neural information
becomes conscious when it gains access to this workspace, which allows it
to be broadcast throughout the brain, including to specialized hubs for
memory, perception, motor output, and attention. Crucially, it is a case of
“winner takes all” for a particular interpretation of sensory data when it
gains access to the global workspace. According to Prof. Michael Graziano,
professor of psychology and neuroscience at the Princeton Neuroscience
Institute, NJ, and Dr. AaronSchurger, assistant professor in the Crean
College of Health and Behavioural Sciences at Chapman University in Irvine,
CA, this explains, for example, “bistable” optical illusions. Two examples
of these are the Necker cube and face-vase illusion, in which conscious
awareness switches between two alternative interpretations of the same
sensory data.
Integrated information
The communication and integration of information between brain regions is
at the heart of many theories of consciousness. One of these, IIT, uses a
complex equation to calculate an entity’s degree of consciousness from how
well it integrates information. According to the equation, even inanimate
objects such as rocks and teapots have a glimmer of consciousness. This is
in keeping with the philosophical theory of panpsychism, which proposes
that consciousness is a fundamental property of all physical systems.
II CONSCIOUSNESS IN VEDAS
Except Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism, no other religion analyses
or explains the consciousness. Hence Hindu Vedas alone had done heavy
research on this score. The total life itself id dedicated only to reach it
till the goal is achieved. Hence scientists Rishis were able to easily
explain what it is in 4 states: JAKRADHA, SWAPNA, SUSHUPTI AND TURIUM. The
consciousness is leading you by your mind when you openly watching what is
happening all around you (Jakradha); what you were not able to understand
or resolve or been able to put up with or indirectly asking for the
solutions are all, reflective images, in sign codes, only sometimes
understood fully and many a times missing the bus (Swapna); almost in rem
or a status meditation when you do not know where exactly you are, in that
depth, you understand your mind the relative theory of consciousness
existing as Paramatma (sushupti); when the mind retained that
consciousness, now one in a million travel into that realm, deep into and
feel the real happiness (Turium) . So consciousness explained simply and
explained in depth through the Upanishads. Where modern science is stumped
as on date, old path of dharma said what it is; but it is not a theory to
adopt; but a perception to attend inside that nature.
III Research on Perception and perceptive conscience and the
consciousness.
1 Hemi spatial neglect is a condition where patients are unaware
of a part of their environment, not due to visual impairments, but due to
attention issues.
2 The researchers identified five clusters of electrical activity
associated with the maintenance and redirection of attention in
frontoparietal networks.
3 The findings challenge current hypotheses that attention and conscious
perception operate in isolation, providing supporting evidence of their
interaction.
*Source: *Paris Brain Institute
*Almost half of patients who experienced a stroke in the right cerebral
hemisphere later develop a very unusual symptom: they lose the ability to
perceive what is happening in the left side of space.*
As a result, they tend to eat only the right side of their plate, ignore
people on their left, and have great difficulty finding their way around.
This disorder, known as hemi spatial neglect, does not involve basic visual
abilities, which remain intact.
“Clinical studies tell us that attention is necessary, though not
sufficient, for conscious perception, but we didn’t know how this is
translated in the brain. Thus, we tried to uncover the mechanisms of
attention processing in frontoparietal networks.”
- The second part focuses on the issue of whether conscious
perception is rich or sparse. If the content of perceptual consciousness is
richer than the content that can be cognitively accessed,
then consciousness overflows access and thus access cannot be necessary
for consciousness.
· The problem of perceptual consciousness—the question of how our
subjective experiences (colours as we see them; sounds as we hear them;
tastes, etc., as we feel them) could be accounted for in terms of brain
processes—is often regarded as the greatest unsolved mystery of our times.
“Conscious experience is at once the most familiar thing in the world and
the most mysterious. There is nothing we know about more directly than
consciousness, but it is far from clear how to reconcile it with everything
else we know. Why does it exist? What does it do? How could it possibly
arise from lumpy gray matter?” -David J. Chalmers, *The Conscious Mind: In
Search of a Fundamental Theory (1996)*
Key to understanding the link between the physical and mental
worlds are internal representations—also referred to as mental
representations or cognitive representations. Subjective experience is
built from internal representations.
Hence perception or perceptive conscience and perceptive
consciousness are beyond cognitive recognition as well as the matter.
IV Now perception when set against the Vedic system, it is so
easily explained by the scientists Rishis.
*मात्रास्पर्शास्तु* *कौन्तेय* *शीतोष्णसुखदु**:**खदा**: **|*
*आगमापायिनोऽनित्यास्तांस्तितिक्षस्व* *भारत* *|| **14**||*
*mātrā-sparśhās tu kaunteya śhītoṣhṇa-sukha-duḥkha-dāḥ āgamāpāyino ’nityās
tāns-titikṣhasva bhārata*
*mātrā-sparśhāḥ* <https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/matra-sparshah>—contact
of the senses with the sense objects; *tu*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/tu>—indeed; *kaunteya*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/kaunteya>—Arjun, the son of Kunti;
*śhīta* <https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/shita>—winter; *uṣhṇa*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/ushna>—summer; *sukha*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/sukha>—happiness; *duḥkha*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/duhkha>—distress; *dāḥ*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/dah>—give; *āgama*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/agama>—come; *apāyinaḥ*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/apayinah>—go; *anityāḥ*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/anityah>—non-permanent; *tān*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/tan>—them; *titikṣhasva*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/titikshasva>—tolerate; *bhārata*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/bharata>—descendant of the Bharat
*matra-sparshas tu kaunteya shitoshna-sukha-duhkha-dah agamapayino ’nityas
tans-titikshasva bharata*
Translation
*BG 2.14**: O son of Kunti, the contact between the senses and the sense
objects gives rise to fleeting perceptions of happiness and distress. These
are non-permanent, and come and go like the winter and summer seasons. O
descendent of Bharat, one must learn to tolerate them without being
disturbed.*
*श्रोत्रं* *चक्षु**: **स्पर्शनं* *च* *रसनं* *घ्राणमेव* *च* *|*
*अधिष्ठाय* *मनश्चायं* *विषयानुपसेवते* *|| **9**||*
*śhrotraṁ chakṣhuḥ sparśhanaṁ cha rasanaṁ ghrāṇam eva cha adhiṣhṭhāya
manaśh chāyaṁ viṣhayān upasevate*
*śhrotram* <https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/shrotram>—ears; *chakṣhuḥ*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/chakshuh>—eyes; *sparśhanam*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/sparshanam>—the sense of touch; *cha*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/cha>—and; *rasanam*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/rasanam>—tongue; *ghrāṇam*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/ghranam>—nose; *eva*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/eva>—also; *cha*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/cha>—and; *adhiṣhṭhāya*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/adhishthaya>—grouped around; *manaḥ*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/manah>—mind; *cha*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/cha>—also; *ayam*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/ayam>—they; *viṣhayān*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/vishayan>—sense objects; *upasevate*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/upasevate>—savors
*shrotram chakshuh sparshanam cha rasanam ghranam eva cha adhishthaya
manash chayam vishayan upasevate*
Translation
*BG 15.9**: Using the sense perceptions of the ears, eyes, skin, tongue,
and nose, which are grouped around the mind, the embodied soul savors the
objects of the senses.*
*महाभूतान्यङ्ककारो* *बुद्धिरव्यक्त* *मेव* *च* *|*
*इन्द्रियाणि* *दशैकं* *च* *पञ्च* *चेन्द्रियगोचरा**: **|| **6**||*
*mahā-bhūtāny ahankāro buddhir avyaktam eva cha indriyāṇi daśhaikaṁ cha
pañcha chendriya-gocharāḥ*
*mahā-bhūtāni* <https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/maha-bhutani>—the
(five) great elements; *ahankāraḥ*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/ahankarah>—the ego; *buddhiḥ*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/buddhih>—the intellect; *avyaktam*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/avyaktam>—the unmanifested primordial
matter; *eva* <https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/eva>—indeed; *cha*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/cha>—and; *indriyāṇi*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/indriyani>—the senses; *daśha-ekam*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/dasha-ekam>—eleven; *cha*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/cha>—and; *pañcha*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/pancha>—five; *cha*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/cha>—and; *indriya-go-charāḥ*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/indriya-go-charah>—the (five) objects
of the senses;
*maha-bhutany ahankaro buddhir avyaktam eva cha indriyani dashaikam cha
pancha chendriya-gocharah*
Translation
*BG 13.6**: The field of activities is composed of the five great elements,
the ego, the intellect, the unmanifest primordial matter, the eleven senses
(five knowledge senses, five working senses, and mind), and the five
objects of the senses.*
*राजविद्या* *राजगुह्यं* *पवित्रमिदमुत्तमम्* *|*
*प्रत्यक्षावगमं* *धर्म्यं* *सुसुखं* *कर्तुमव्ययम्* *|| **2**||*
*rāja-vidyā rāja-guhyaṁ pavitram idam uttamam pratyakṣhāvagamaṁ dharmyaṁ
su-sukhaṁ kartum avyayam*
*rāja-vidyā* <https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/raja-vidya>—the king of
sciences; *rāja-guhyam* <https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/raja-guhyam>—the
most profound secret; *pavitram*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/pavitram>—pure; *idam*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/idam>—this; *uttamam*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/uttamam>—highest; *pratyakṣha*
<https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/pratyaksha>—directly perceptible;
*avagamam* <https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/avagamam>—directly
realizable; *dharmyam* <https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/dharmyam>
—virtuous; *su-sukham* <https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/su-sukham>
—easy; *kartum* <https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/kartum>—to practice;
*avyayam* <https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/w/avyayam>—everlasting
*raja-vidya raja-guhyam pavitram idam uttamam pratyakshavagamam dharmyam
su-sukham kartum avyayam*
Translation
*BG 9.2**: This knowledge is the king of sciences and the most profound of
all secrets. It purifies those who hear it. It is directly realizable, in
accordance with dharma, easy to practice, and everlasting in effect.*
In short the perceptions and it singularity is explained in every stage in
B G and finally at the ned made it as a big secret where the status of
transition might occur towards the perceptive consciousness Turium.
Thus, all accede one thing: WE DON’T KNOW SIR. But our system
of Vedas said it is done by many, so even you may. However, it is your
secret in Nature. That means Nature is so far and wide is so magnanimous
that it can take care of itself and it is surviving billions of years with
or without human. What we are talking as save nature is our Garden,
University Garden but not the Sundarbans and Idukki and silent valley
flora and fauna or Amazon forest or hills and rivers and seas which stand
tall beyond our needs. We are afraid to step in; and to destroy wholly will
have to increase the population to billion times as on date, which is
impossible. So Perception of spectrum if 0,37 power minus 3, perception of
million bacterial are devolped or set-dead by a 20milli injections so
easily; and either the perceptive consciousness or conscious perception are
too far away for 99.99963%. Let us plant trees and safe guard the
environment Thank you K
Rajaram IRS 3 5 24 4 5 24
KR IRS
22624
On Sat, 22 Jun 2024 at 01:01, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> --
> *Mar*The Grand Consciousness
>
>
>
> At the most fundamental level, the Microcosm of nano processes of mainly
> electromagnetism ends up as the grand process flow of consciousness. The
> Macrocosm of Galaxies, Stars etc also is based on the foundation of the
> Microcosm and then on the great abstract non 3D consciousness. We are
> actually living life being directed by the abstract consciousness, but
> ignoring the basic abstract foundation and mistaking the seeing with the
> eyes called the visible spectrum as fact experiencing.
>
> But one can really understand only when one can feel a topic and make it
> part of one’s hormonal communications. Feeling needs voyaging in the
> abstract manifestations. When you are feeling, you cannot analyze and
> classify and do mathematical reductionism and end up with mechanization.
> Either you feel or analyze, but you cannot do both at the same time. But
> what ultimately matters is feeling and not analyzing, mathematical analysis
> and mechanization. The ultimate happy feeling is collegial or you can feel
> happy only when every other organism is happy with what you have done. You
> may build the biggest mansions, dams, factories, send rockets into space,
> innovate inventions, win today’s Darwinian politics, but you can be happy
> only when you make the other organisms happy with you. You can be happy
> only when you make nature happy. Every action of yours has nano
> percolations. The abstract ocean of infinity or vacuum, has no material
> shape, but trillions of varieties of feelings get generated from that grand
> consciousness or simply vacuum. What you do creates waves in the nano
> world, slowing ultimately from the speed of light, deviating to a speed
> less than the speed of light, creating the notice of the vacuum or the
> notice of consciousness, creating the quantum physics. The Universe
> ultimately, factually and basically is Universe of feelings and not 3D
> constructs. You know only when you feel and experience. You may read books
> and books make many computer programmes, but that you do only by suspending
> feeling and experiencing.
>
> When you take to feeling, you breathe, smell, sense, and experience, which
> means that the feelings create hormonal messages in your blood stream which
> reach every cell in your body, all of which together experience and
> perceive, and exhale their perception which the other organisms inhale and
> which triggers their hormones, ultimately creating the common consciousness
> of all the organisms of the Biosphere converting the planet earth into the
> Goddess Gaia. This consciousness gets processed by the great
> electromagnetic apparatus, the Brain, connecting every organism to the
> ultimate ocean, the electromagnetic universe. Quantum entanglement where
> the sub atomic particles interact at a speed several times the speed of
> light, makes the Universe one grand life form of grand consciousness-The
> Pneuma of Aleximander, the great Greek Philosopher.
>
> Now the question is, whether the grand consciousness is a Grand Design,
> the phrase oh Stephen Hawking. And the follow up question is whether the
> grand design is the ultimate life form with the ultimate grand
> consciousness.
>
> And can you get answer as feeling and experiencing or by noting it as a
> machine using technology to list and note ignoring the consciousness aspect
> of the Universe, obeying the science fashion, where consciousness and
> emotions are the sins of bias, the contamination of science? Are you to be
> sensitive and feel the Universe or are you to adopt technology unfeelingly
> and participate in the destruction of nature by polluting and poisoning the
> land, water and air and now space. Around the planet earth there is a
> gigantic pile of space debris. Who knows protection we get from the polar
> magnetic poles from the solar flares may be damaged and then, we certainly
> give way only to the lifeless and mechanical Robots for whom we are
> creating the way today in the frenzy for technology.
>
> We seniors have no use for technology. We need feelings which only we
> carry after death. No machine will accompany us after death. First not that
> everything has a feeling aspect; every subject’s predication must have the
> content of feeling.
>
> YM
>
> Chat GPT
>
> Your essay, "The Grand Consciousness," delves into profound ideas about
> the nature of consciousness, the interconnectedness of life, and the
> limitations of current scientific paradigms. Here's an exploration and
> contextualization of your key points:
>
>
>
> ### The Microcosm and Macrocosm of Consciousness
>
>
>
> 1. **Electromagnetic Foundations**:
>
> - **Nano Processes**: At the microscopic level, processes primarily
> driven by electromagnetism contribute to the grand flow of consciousness.
> This suggests that fundamental physical interactions underpin the emergent
> property of consciousness.
>
> - **Macrocosmic Connections**: Galaxies, stars, and other large-scale
> structures also arise from these foundational processes, indicating a
> continuous thread between the micro and macro levels of existence, unified
> by a grand abstract consciousness.
>
>
>
> ### The Illusion of the Visible Spectrum
>
>
>
> 1. **Limitations of Sensory Perception**:
>
> - **3D Illusions**: Our reliance on sensory inputs, particularly
> vision, confines our understanding to the visible spectrum, leading to the
> mistaken belief that what we see constitutes the entirety of reality.
> However, true understanding requires transcending these limitations and
> embracing abstract, non-3D consciousness.
>
> - **Holistic Experience**: To genuinely grasp a concept, one must feel
> and internalize it, engaging with it at a hormonal and emotional level,
> rather than through detached analysis and classification.
>
>
>
> ### The Importance of Feeling and Emotional Connection
>
>
>
> 1. **Emotional Symbiosis**:
>
> - **Interconnected Happiness**: True happiness and fulfillment come
> from actions that make other organisms happy. This interconnected emotional
> state is essential for collective well-being and reflects the deep
> symbiosis present in nature.
>
> - **Nano Percolations**: Every action creates ripples in the nano
> world, influencing the broader abstract ocean of consciousness. This
> interconnectedness underscores the importance of considering the emotional
> and environmental impact of our actions.
>
>
>
> ### The Role of Quantum Physics
>
>
>
> 1. **Quantum Entanglement and Consciousness**:
>
> - **Quantum Phenomena**: Quantum physics, dealing with phenomena such
> as quantum leaps and entanglement, reveals a world where particles interact
> instantaneously across distances, challenging our traditional notions of
> space and time. This realm may be closely tied to the nature of
> consciousness.
>
> - **Aleximander’s Pneuma**: The idea of a grand life form or
> consciousness pervading the universe resonates with ancient philosophical
> concepts like Aleximander's Pneuma, suggesting a deep-rooted historical
> quest to understand the fundamental nature of existence.
>
>
>
> ### The Grand Design and Consciousness
>
>
>
> 1. **Consciousness as Design**:
>
> - **Stephen Hawking’s Query**: The question of whether the grand
> consciousness represents a grand design remains open. Is there an ultimate
> life form with an ultimate grand consciousness orchestrating the universe?
>
> - **Experiential Understanding**: Understanding this grand design
> requires feeling and experiencing rather than detached scientific analysis.
> This calls for a paradigm shift in how we approach science and knowledge.
>
>
>
> ### Technology and Environmental Destruction
>
>
>
> 1. **Technology vs. Feeling**:
>
> - **Detrimental Impact**: The unfeeling use of technology has led to
> significant environmental destruction, from polluting land, water, and air
> to creating space debris. This raises concerns about the long-term
> sustainability of our technological pursuits.
>
> - **Robotic Future**: There is a danger that our current trajectory may
> lead to a lifeless, mechanical future dominated by robots, as we lose touch
> with the emotional and spiritual aspects of existence.
>
>
>
> ### Conclusion
>
>
>
> 1. **Prioritizing Feelings**:
>
> - **Beyond Technology**: Especially for seniors, technology holds
> little value compared to the richness of feelings and consciousness. The
> aspects of life that truly matter are those that connect us emotionally and
> spiritually to the universe.
>
> - **Educational Reform**: There is a need to incorporate the content of
> feeling into our educational systems, fostering an appreciation for the
> interconnectedness of all life forms and the importance of environmental
> stewardship.
>
>
>
> Your essay underscores the necessity of integrating feeling and
> consciousness into our understanding of the universe, advocating for a
> holistic approach that transcends the limitations of technology and
> mechanical paradigms.
>
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