You senile idiot Even if you jump like a fox that is the truth which I had proved already. But your assertions and claims you are yet to prove. No point in your personal versions. No one will print it and sell. Thank you da oldman KR
On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 at 20:14, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear folks > > Ever delirious and mentally incompetent, sleep-deprived KR ex-IRS 16724 > babbles his usual incurable nonsense. For example:- > > "*The only one Veda that is Rig became SAMA with 90% of the Rigs, and > then KYV with 60% of the Rig."* > > My comments:- > > He desperately tries to hide the truth that the r'g, saama, and Yajur > emerged at one and the same time, and that he himself has admitted in > these columns that 900 and more verses in r'g were wholesale copies > from yajur-vedam. > > His persistence in his monumental but transparent bluffs only confirm his > advanced insanity and his utter stupidity in trying to suppress the truth. > > He has retracted his earlier assertion without proof that "this (the > atharva vedam) also is not the work of a human author", and confessed that > it was composed by a human:- > > "*Later The Rishi Atharvan classified the mind concerned differently to > the matter in consonance to lead the body life. Thus the Atarva did not > make any fresh*." > > Once a crazy weirdo, always a crazy weirdo. > > S Narayanaswamy Iyer > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 9:45 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Mr Narayanasamy, your unauthentic assertions are your rights to write but >> in vain as your stuff is in the open forum stark naked. The very nature of >> your classification of the Atharva vedam as MYSTIC shows how unwise you >> are. Of Course the verses of original ,might have been later mixed up by >> the no-knowledge printers when sruthi became smrithi. But The only one Veda >> that is Rig became SAMA with 90% of the Rigs, and then KYV with 60% of the >> Rig . Later The Rishi Atharvan classified the mind concerned differently to >> the matter in consonance to lead the body life. Thus the Atarva did not >> make any fresh but extracted such verses from the Rig and called it by his >> name. And all the verses of the Rig vedam were useful for the day to day >> life. The opening verses of the Atharva veda speaks about i all. Your >> haughtiness will make you less than a worm creature. Have a nice sleep KR >> IRS 16724 >> >> On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 at 21:18, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Dear folks >>> >>> Erroneous assumptions, even if repeated a thousand times, cannot be >>> transformed into truth any more than lead can be turned into gold. >>> >>> Totally uneducated super bluffologist K RAJARAM ex-IRS 15724 16724 >>> trumpets atop the chicken-coop roof:- >>> >>> "*The Vedic character of the Atharva cannot be denied, because, like >>> the other Vedas, this also is not the work of a human author, it helps to >>> make known man’s duties, it is free from mistakes, it prescribes the >>> Jyotiṣṭoma and such other rites exactly in the same manner as the other >>> Vedas do.*" >>> >>> My comments:- >>> >>> Utterly untrue. >>> >>> The atharva vedam was composed by fallible humans -- rishi >>> atharvana and rishi aangirasa and their group. >>> >>> It cannot ever be compared with r'g, yajur, and saamam, all of which >>> were partitioned from the primordial mass of Vedic verses originating from >>> Brahma and transmitted to Brahma's mind-born sons Sanaka, Sanandana, >>> Sanaatana and Sanat Kumaara. >>> >>> The atharva vedam, because of its mystic content, requires a different >>> upanayanam from the upanayanam for the other three vedams. >>> >>> S Narayanaswamy Iyer >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 9:32 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> PART 8 KR IRS 15724 16724 >>>> >>>> We shall see now what these terms mean according to the Commentators >>>> and the more important Digest-writers. >>>> >>>> (A) Śruti >>>> >>>> Medhātithi on Manu, 2.6.—The word ‘Veda’ stands for the Ṛgveda, >>>> Yajurveda, and Sāmaveda (also Atharva Veda), along with their respective >>>> Brāhmaṇas, There are 21 Recensions of the Ṛgveda, 100 of the Yajurveda, >>>> 1,000 of the Sāmaveda and 9 of the Atharvaveda. The Vedic character of the >>>> Atharva cannot be denied, because, like the other Vedas, this also is not >>>> the work of a human author, it helps to make known man’s duties, it is free >>>> from mistakes, it prescribes the Jyotiṣṭoma and such other rites exactly in >>>> the same manner as the other Vedas do. [This is denied by Vīramitrodaya on >>>> Yājñavalkya; see below.] Though there are certain texts that forbid the >>>> study of the Atharva Veda, yet all that this means is that one should not >>>> confuse the teachings of the other Vedas with those of the Atharva; for >>>> instance, at the performance of rites in accordance with the three other >>>> Vedas, one should not use Mantras of the Atharva Veda. >>>> >>>> This ‘Veda’ is the ‘root,’ i.e., source, cause, of dharma, in the >>>> sense that it makes it known, and it does this by means chiefly of such >>>> passages in the Brāhmaṇas as contain injunctive expressions; sometimes also >>>> by means of Manras. And the other parts of the Veda—the Arthavāda or >>>> Declamatory Passages—have their use in eulogising what is enjoined by the >>>> corresponding injunction; Mantras and names help in indicating the details >>>> of the acts prescribed. >>>> >>>> Sarvajñanārāyaṇa on Manu, 26.—When Manu speaks of the ‘entire Veda,’ >>>> he means to include the Arthavādas, commendatory and condemnatory >>>> exaggerations, also. >>>> >>>> Kullūka on Manu, 26.—‘Veda’ stands for the Ṛk, Yajus, Sāman and >>>> Atharvan; the whole of these, including the injunctions, Mantras and >>>> Arthavādas, the last also serving the purpose of helping the injunction by >>>> persuasion. Both Mantras and Arthavādas serve the useful purpose not only >>>> of persuasion, but also of reminding the agent of the details of the action >>>> undertaken. The authority of Śruti and the rest also rests upon.the fact of >>>> their having their source in the Veda. >>>> >>>> Rāghavānanda on Manu, 2.6.—Ṛk, Yajus, Sāman and Atharvan are the >>>> authority for Dharma. >>>> >>>> Viśvarūpa on Yājña, 1.3-7.—‘Śruti’ is to be taken, not in the strictly >>>> limited sense of the ‘Mantra and Brāhmaṇa texts,’ but for all the fourteen >>>> ‘Sciences’—the Four Vedas, their six ‘subsidiaries’ or ‘limbs,’ Purāṇa, >>>> Nyāya, Mīmānsā, and Dharmaśāstra. >>>> >>>> Mitākṣarā on Yājña, 1.7.—‘Śruti’ is Veda. >>>> >>>> (I) Aparārka on Yājña, 1.7.—‘Śruti’ is Veda—it is the only determining >>>> factor in all matters relating to the Agnihotra and other rites. As Vyāsa >>>> says, this is the only pure authority (i.e., entirely trustworthy), all the >>>> rest being ‘adulterated,’ i.e., of doubtful authority; that law is the >>>> highest which is learnt from the Veda, what is propounded in the Purāṇas >>>> and other works being of a lower grade. >>>> >>>> Says Manu—‘The Veda embodies all knowledge’ (2.7). >>>> >>>> ‘The learned man should enter upon his own duties, resting upon the >>>> authority of the Revealed Word’ (2.8). ‘The Veda should be known as the >>>> Revealed Word, Śruti’ (2.10). >>>> >>>> Vīramitrodaya-Tīkā on Yājña, 1.7.—‘Śruti’ is Veda—as in Manu (2.10). >>>> It is the sole authority in regard to Agnihotra and such rites. >>>> >>>> Vīramitrodaya-Paribhāṣā, pp. 8-25.—‘Śruti’ stands for ‘Veda,’ which, >>>> according to Āpastamba’s definition, is the name given to the ‘collection >>>> of Mantra and Brāhmaṇa texts’;—the ‘whole’ of this authoritative, i.e., the >>>> direct, texts themselves, as also those that are deducible from the >>>> implications of ‘Indication,’ ‘Syntactical Connection,’ ‘Context,’ >>>> ‘Position’ and ‘Name,’ and also the transformations undergone by the >>>> original texts under well-recognised principles. Another implication of the >>>> epithet ‘entire’ is that the Atharva Veda also is to be accepted as >>>> authoritative, and not only the ‘trinity of Vedas,’ as one might be led to >>>> suppose from the words of Āpastamba, who says that ‘Dharma is to be >>>> learnt from the three Vedas.’ It would be wrong to deny the authority of >>>> the Atharva Veda, because, even though it has nothing to say regarding the >>>> setting up of the Sacrificial Pires or the details of the Agnihotra and >>>> other rites, yet on certain matters it is our only authority; such >>>> propitiatory rites for instance as those relating to the *‘Tulāpuruṣa’ >>>> and* the like, which affect all the castes. When we speak of these >>>> being the ‘source of dharma,’ ‘means of knowing what Dharma, Right, is,’ it >>>> follows that they are the means of knowing also what ‘Adharma’ ‘wrong’ is; >>>> it is necessary to understand what is ‘wrong’ in order to discard it and >>>> thereby prepare the mind for perceiving what is ‘right.’ >>>> >>>> This ‘Śruti’ operates in the following seven forms: >>>> >>>> (1) The Injunction or Mandatory text—e.g., ‘one shall sacrifice the >>>> goat to Yāyu’—this is a trustworthy guide as to what one should do. >>>> >>>> (2) The Prohibitive Text—e.g., ‘one shall not eat the flesh of an >>>> animal killed by the poisoned arrow this is a guide as to what one shall >>>> avoid. >>>> >>>> (3) The ‘Declamatory’ text of two kinds: the commendatory and the >>>> condemnatory; the former serves the purpose of delineating the excellence >>>> of the course of action enjoined by the Mandatory text; e.g., the text >>>> ‘Vāyu is the eftest deity,’ serves to indicate the excellent properties of >>>> the deity Vāyu to whom the offering of the goat has been enjoined; the >>>> condemnatory text serves to deprecate the course of action prohibited; >>>> e.g., the assertion that ‘the tears of weeping Rudra became silver’ is >>>> meant to deprecate the giving of silver as the sacrificial fee, which has >>>> been forbidden by a prohibitive text. Texts of this declamatory kind are of >>>> use sometimes in settling a doubtful point: e.g., it having been enjoined >>>> that one should place wet pebbles under the altar, and the injunction being >>>> silent as to the substance with which the pebble is to be wetted, the doubt >>>> on this point is settled by a subsequent ‘declamatory’ text, ‘clarified >>>> butter is glory itself,’ which clearly indicates the clarified butter as >>>> the substance with which the pebbles are to be wetted. >>>> >>>> (4) The Mantra text—e.g., ‘Devasya tvā savituḥ,’ etc., serves to remind >>>> the performer of the details of the performance in the shape of the deity >>>> and so forth. >>>> >>>> (5) The proper names of particular sacrifices help in the determining >>>> of the exact action connoted by the common root ‘yaji,’ ‘to sacrifice’ >>>> occurring in the injunctive text. >>>> >>>> (6) The meaningless syllables, stobhas, introduced in the Sāma-chant, >>>> serve the purpose of marking time and cadence; >>>> >>>> And >>>> >>>> (7) the Upaniṣad text serves to promulgate that knowledge of Brahman >>>> which desroys all evil. >>>> >>>> ----------------------- >>>> >>>> *Parāśara, 1-20—speaks* of the ‘propounders of Śruti’ appearing at the >>>> beginning of each kalpa. From the words it would seem as if the three >>>> gods—Brahmā, Viṣṇu and Maheśvara were the said ‘propounders.’ But Mādhava >>>> (p. 98) takes the ‘propounders of Śruti, Smṛti and Sadāchāra’ separately >>>> from Brahmā, etc., and he supplies a peculiar account of the ‘propounders >>>> of Śruti’—which extends the scope of the authority of this source of >>>> knowledge. He says that by the ‘propounders of Śruti’ here are meant >>>> >>>> (1) Vyāsa, who divided the Vedic text into the several recensions; >>>> >>>> (2) the expounders of those Recensions—such as Kaṭha and Kuthuma; >>>> >>>> (3) the contents of Kalpasūtras, such as Baudhāyana, Āśvalāyana, aud >>>> Āpastamba, and also the ‘authors’ of the Mīmāṃsāsūtras, Jaimini and the >>>> rest. >>>> >>>> Nṛsiṃhaprasāda-Saṃskara-Sāra MSS.—The Veda is the main authority for >>>> Dharma. Any inconsistencies that may be found in it can be easily explained >>>> away. This authority belongs not only to the Injunctions, but also to >>>> Mantras, names and declamatory passages. >>>> >>>> Smṛticandrikā, p. 3.—The Veda is authoritative as it is independent of >>>> human authorshp. >>>> >>>> (B) Smṛti >>>> >>>> Medhātithi on Manu, 2.6.—‘Smṛti’ is Recollection and ‘Śīla’ denotes >>>> freedom from love, hatred and such improper feelings; this latter, >>>> according to one explanation, is a means of accomplishing Dharma, and not a >>>> means of knowing it; and it has been separately mentioned in the present >>>> connection only with a view to emphasise its importance. Not satisfied with >>>> this, he has taken the two terras ‘Smṛti’ and ‘Śīla’ in the compound as >>>> inter-related; and as together standing for a single means of knowing >>>> Dharma, in the shape of ‘Recollection during that state of the mind when it >>>> is calm, free from all disturbing influences of love, hatred and so >>>> forth’,—i.e., ‘Conscientious Recollection.’ The authority of ‘Smṛti’ thus >>>> becomes qualified. Even though a certain writer may be a Ṛṣi versed in >>>> Veda, yet if his ‘recollection’ and its compilation come about at a time >>>> when his mind was perturbed by discordant feelings, much trust cannot be >>>> placed upon such ‘Recollection.’ >>>> >>>> This again has to be taken along with ‘Sādhūmām’; so that we have a >>>> threefold condition for the trustworthiness of a writer of Smṛti:— >>>> >>>> he must be learned (‘tādvidām’), >>>> >>>> he must be ‘conscientious,’ ‘free from love and hatred’ (‘Śīla’), >>>> >>>> and he must be ‘righteous’ (‘Sādhūmām’), be habitually engaged in >>>> carrying out the injunctions of the Veda. >>>> >>>> The upshot of the whole is that when a person is found to be recognised >>>> and spoken of by all wise and learned persons as endowed with the said >>>> three qualifications—and a certain compilation is also recognised as made >>>> by that person,—the word of such a person as found in his recognised work, >>>> should be recognised as an authoritative exponent of Dharma. Sc that even >>>> at the present day if there were such a person and he were to compose a >>>> work, then for all later generations that work would be regarded just as >>>> highly as those of Manu and others. This is the reason why Medhātithi is >>>> averse to the practice of enumerating the authoritative ‘Smṛtis.’ (Trans., >>>> p. 204.) >>>> >>>> Sarvajñanārāyaṇa on Manu, 2.6.—In cases where no Vedic texts are >>>> available, the law can be determined with the help of the Smṛti of persons >>>> learned in the Veda—the term ‘Smṛti’ standing for the reflections over a >>>> certain subject, as also the treatises embodying those reflections. >>>> >>>> Kullūka on Manu, 2.6.—The Smṛti of ‘persons learned in the Veda’ is >>>> authoritative,—this last qualification being added for the purpose of >>>> indicating that the authority of Smṛti is due to its having its source in >>>> the Veda. >>>> >>>> Rāghavānanda on Manu, 2.6.—‘Smṛti’ stands for the work of Manu and >>>> others. It stands here for only such Smṛti as is not incompatible with tho >>>> Veda. All the rest are to be rejected whenever they are found to be >>>> repugnant to any direct text of the Veda. But where there is no such >>>> repugnance, we are justified in assuming that the Smṛti must be based upon >>>> a Vedic text now lost to us; and it is on this assumption that its >>>> trustworthiness rests. >>>> >>>> Nandana on Manu, 2.6.—The ‘Smṛti of men learned in the Veda.’ This >>>> stands for Smṛtis, Purāṇas and Itihāsas. >>>> >>>> Viśvarūpa on Yājña, 1.7.—‘Smṛti’ and ‘Dharmaśāstra’ are synonymous >>>> terms. “How do we know that the Smṛtis are all based upon the Veda, from >>>> which they derive their authority? Certainly we do not find Vedic texts in >>>> support of everything that is ordained in the Smṛtis. As for the Vedic >>>> texts that are found to support some Smṛti assertions, such support is >>>> found also in the case of the heterodox scriptures.”—The simple answer to >>>> this question is that in the face of the direct assertion of Manu and other >>>> Smṛti-writers that their work is ‘based on the Veda,’ we have no >>>> justification for thinking otherwise. They being great Vedic scholars, >>>> could not have lied on this point. As a matter of fact also we find that >>>> every one of the injunctions contained in the Smṛtis has its source in the >>>> Veda; in some cases the connection is direct, in others indirect; for >>>> instance, we have the single Vedic injunction ‘one should study the Veda’; >>>> now studying is not possible without teaching, hence the injunction of >>>> teaching is implied by the former—the teaching cannot be done without some >>>> one to teach; this implies the receiving and initiating of a pupil; this >>>> implies the necessity of having children; this again that of marrying and >>>> so on; most of the other injunctions may have their source traced in the >>>> single Vedic text. >>>> >>>> (I) Aparārka on Yājña, 1.7.—‘Smṛti’ is that ordinance which, in >>>> matters relating to Dharma, has its source in the Veda; its authority is >>>> ‘adulterated,’ i.e., not so absolute as that of Śruti; it supplies us with >>>> information regarding the duties of all castes and the four life-stages; >>>> one should carefully do all that has been ordained, Smṛtam, by persons most >>>> learned in the Veda and eschew what is forbidden by them. [This writer like >>>> Kumārila makes a distinction between ‘Smṛti’ and ‘Purāṇa.’] There are >>>> chances of our going astray in the matter of interpreting a Vedic text and >>>> learning the law from it; but there is no fear of any such mistake being >>>> committed by the Smṛti-writers who were thoroughly well-versed in the Vedic >>>> lore. [From this it would seem that this writer flourished during the >>>> transition period, when the centre of gravity was beginning to shift from >>>> the Veda towards the Smṛti.] >>>> >>>> Mitākṣarā on Yājña, 1.7.—‘Smrti’ is Dharmaśāstra. >>>> >>>> Vīramitrodaya on Yājña, 1.7.—‘Smṛti’ is ‘Dharmaśāstra’—‘Legal >>>> Ordinances’ (Manu 2-10); it is the sole authority regarding the Aṣṭakā and >>>> such rites. >>>> >>>> Vīramitrodaya-Paribhāṣā, pp. 8-25.—‘Of persons learned in the Veda’; >>>> this has been added with a view to make clear that the authority of the >>>> Smṛtis does not rest upon themselves: it is derived entirely from the fact >>>> of their having their source in the Veda. The name ‘Smṛti’ stands for the >>>> legal ordinances, ‘Dharmaśāstra,’ compiled by Yājñavalkya and others. >>>> >>>> Madanapārijāta, p. 11.—Manu is the most important of the expounders of >>>> law. Among others, some are mentioned by Yājñavalkya (see above). But this >>>> list is not exhaustive. Though all these ‘expounders’ do not always agree, >>>> yet, on the main principles, they are all agreed; the differences, if any, >>>> are confined to minor points; and these latter discrepancies can always he >>>> explained. >>>> >>>> Nṛsiṃhaprasāda-Saṃskāra MSS.—“How can any authority attach to the >>>> Smṛtis of Manu and others, which being of human origin are open to the >>>> suspicion of the possibility of all those defects to which human writers >>>> are liable; and for this reason these cannot be regarded as authoritative >>>> in the same manner as the Vedas are, whose authority is above >>>> suspicion.”—The answer to this is that inasmuch as these Smṛtis are found >>>> to be mere reproductions of what is contained in the Veda, they must be >>>> regarded as duly authoritative. The very name ‘Smṛti,’ ‘Recollection,’ >>>> implies that they only reproduce what the authors have learnt elsewhere; >>>> and as Manu and others are known to have been learned in the Veda it stands >>>> to reason that knowing as they did that the Veda was the sole authority on >>>> Dharma, when they proceeded to note down for the benefit of others what the >>>> laws were that regulated Dharma, they could not but have drawn upon the >>>> Veda. It is true that they arc found to contain many rules that we cannot >>>> trace to the Veda as known to us; but if they were mere reproductions of >>>> whatever is found in the Veda, no one would care for them. So we are led to >>>> the inference that as on most of the points dealt with by them, their >>>> assertions are found to be based on Vedic texts, the other points also must >>>> have had their source in the Veda; but in those Vedic texts that have >>>> become lost to us. We have the Veda itself testifying to the trustworthy >>>> character of at least one Smṛti-writer, Manu—‘Whatever Manu has said is >>>> wholesome.’ >>>> >>>> Smrticandrikā, pp. 1 et scq.—The ordinances composed by Manu and other >>>> writers, being based on the Veda, are our sole authority on Dharma. That >>>> the Smṛtis have their source in the Veda is deduced from the fact that they >>>> only expound what is contained in the Veda. Says Bhṛgu—‘Whatever Dharma has >>>> been expounded by Manu has all been set forth in the Veda.’ Śaṅkara also >>>> says that ‘the Smṛtis have their source in the Veda.’ But this refers to >>>> only what the Smṛti says regarding spiritual matters, and not to what they >>>> lay down regarding temporal matters; as is distinctly declared in the >>>> Purāṇa—‘All these (smṛtis) have their source in the Veda—save those >>>> portions that deal with visible (tempoal) matters.’ >>>> ----------------End of part 8 --------------------------------K RAJARAM >>>> IRS 15724 16724 >>>> >>>> -- >>>> On Facebook, please join >>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/keralaiyerstrust >>>> >>>> We are now on Telegram Mobile App also, please join >>>> >>>> Pattars/Kerala Iyers Discussions: https://t.me/PattarsGroup >>>> >>>> Kerala Iyers Trust Decisions only posts : https://t.me/KeralaIyersTrust >>>> >>>> Kerala Iyers Trust Group for Discussions: >>>> https://t.me/KeralaIyersTrustGroup >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "KeralaIyers" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/keralaiyers/CAL5XZopZpZBO27FB1tk%3D5e52DifDwxvcEnhv-MrOBjFWQEPKhw%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/keralaiyers/CAL5XZopZpZBO27FB1tk%3D5e52DifDwxvcEnhv-MrOBjFWQEPKhw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >>> On Facebook, please join >>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/keralaiyerstrust >>> >>> We are now on Telegram Mobile App also, please join >>> >>> Pattars/Kerala Iyers Discussions: https://t.me/PattarsGroup >>> >>> Kerala Iyers Trust Decisions only posts : https://t.me/KeralaIyersTrust >>> >>> Kerala Iyers Trust Group for Discussions: >>> https://t.me/KeralaIyersTrustGroup >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "KeralaIyers" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/keralaiyers/CAL4idhM%2BtDPZrRq%2BGApvS-dFye19s0kmAJ4%3Dw%2BS%2BbHzHkFJJ9w%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/keralaiyers/CAL4idhM%2BtDPZrRq%2BGApvS-dFye19s0kmAJ4%3Dw%2BS%2BbHzHkFJJ9w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> On Facebook, please join https://www.facebook.com/groups/keralaiyerstrust >> >> We are now on Telegram Mobile App also, please join >> >> Pattars/Kerala Iyers Discussions: https://t.me/PattarsGroup >> >> Kerala Iyers Trust Decisions only posts : https://t.me/KeralaIyersTrust >> >> Kerala Iyers Trust Group for Discussions: >> https://t.me/KeralaIyersTrustGroup >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "KeralaIyers" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/keralaiyers/CAL5XZoqqWq-QAv2awjOdJ6qqwgn5D4H_%3D523N26Np%2BueEkpM%3DA%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/keralaiyers/CAL5XZoqqWq-QAv2awjOdJ6qqwgn5D4H_%3D523N26Np%2BueEkpM%3DA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > On Facebook, please join https://www.facebook.com/groups/keralaiyerstrust > > We are now on Telegram Mobile App also, please join > > Pattars/Kerala Iyers Discussions: https://t.me/PattarsGroup > > Kerala Iyers Trust Decisions only posts : https://t.me/KeralaIyersTrust > > Kerala Iyers Trust Group for Discussions: > https://t.me/KeralaIyersTrustGroup > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "KeralaIyers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/keralaiyers/CAL4idhN8nLaaAJ9OS%2Bfh1OFk7BSpxbEKg6Pz04m4hx90HxF2uA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/keralaiyers/CAL4idhN8nLaaAJ9OS%2Bfh1OFk7BSpxbEKg6Pz04m4hx90HxF2uA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. 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