Sensory perceptions are limited to the Kama the desire; smelling and living is a closed circuit TV which will broadcast only within the vision it is conditioned to show, in which real causes might get erased out of focus. Dualism accepted Kama alone as desire to live; desire only to live; desire the desire and get it somehow; when desire gets exhausted, or become boring, get lost to be reborn again to desire ; that is west dualism; and BUDDHA DUALISM IN SOMEWHAT ONE KIND. Sanatana dharma had a different science. It said Purusha is a tree; only a tree; and we are all creepers over it and grown out of IT. The creepers die aand refurbish but are stuck to the Purusha Tree. So carved out the purusha MEANINGFUL; ARTHA; Purusharatha. aRTHA-PURUSHA. Dharma the principle; ARTHA the wealth; KAMA the needs and requirements and that is obtained by a QUALIA DESIRE or unqualified desire. the three that lead to the realisation of Moksha. DHARMA-ARTHA-KAMA-MOKSHA. So the purpose of life is MOKSHA. and that is realised only when the "I"-desire KAMA is replaced; Kama if erased , will be born again in another Roopa. Hence Bharathi sang, -MOGATHAI GONDRU VIDU ILAI YENIL EN MOOCHAI NIRUTHI VIDU. HE PLEADED FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF "i". I arose out of ARTHA, wealth; wealth was needed as a boat to cross the samsara sagara. Leave the boat on the shore and walk into the Aranya the forest. Why do yo want o smell and live again which alone brought you this far. Hence the life long abstract to releas one from all is that DHARMA way of life satva. Dharma takes your wealth without greed; permitted to lead a protective sensory life. And when one leaaves the boaat ashore and desire to desire in that boat, dharma the unaffected soul alone walks along with fo that Moksha. *Discovery (self realisation) about an aspect of nature (The Moksha) is revelation. But inventions (over indulgence ) that create the dominance of (Kama and Artha) only add to misery. Today we are creating more and more misery and simply do not bother to discover aspects of NOKSHA or just do not care for revelations. Technology (Kamatha) in fact corrodes the spirit to discover and experience revelations. **Spritualism or perception (Kama) by breathing and smelling today is dead ( may be good or maay be increase the Artha) . In fact the word spiritualism is mystified and obfuscated. (so jumping from Dharna to moksha called renunciation being ough, advocates to hold, the Kamartha in alimited measure, but hold dharma to walk into the aranya Moksha.. K Rajaram IRS 29724 30724 *
On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 at 07:46, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < [email protected]> wrote: > > > -- > *Mar**Spiritualism (Repeat)* > > > *I do not rigidly follow the meanings given in the Dictionaries. Meanings > actually grow, change or develop branches as times change.* > > *Spirit means air. When you take a decision determinedly you take a deep > breath. You get inspired. When you continue in determination, you keep the > breath in you, you do not breath out. When you let go and when there is no > fight in you, you breathe out. Your breathing and decision making are > related. If you study their relationship, you are a spiritualist. Normally > when you take a decision determinedly, you want all positive helping > factors to come to your aid. Those factors for the theists are one word > God. For the atheists it is simply their own determination without the > designation of God. But they too cannot leave the spirit or air. The God > concept is so much identified with spiritualism because of the relationship > between the inspiration or breathing in and decision making.* > > *There are leaders that inspire, or make all people take deep breathe and > do what the leader inspires them or make them take deep breathe and do. But > when the air is poisoned and breathing made dangerous, people slowly become > the spiritless cowards.* > > > *In breathing exercises by controlling your breathing in a particular way, > you control your decision making and decision taking faculties and your > capacity to continue without leaving, continue tenaciously without giving > up, will increase. You get inspired continuously. When you breathe in and > keep the breathe for some time without immediately breathing out, you are > continuing the duration of your determination. You become consistent. You > do not concede failure easily. This is Spiritualism. Breathing, > determination, tenacity,the resulting self confidence and self esteem, all > depend on the air that blows from lush and free nature. All these depend on > your macro body or nature. When nature is continuously destroyed, the > inspiring air will be gone. Machines cause the extinction permanently of > forests and as a result the inspiring spirit.* > > *When a machine that does the work of say a hundred persons is employed, > the hundred persons lose employment and income. They cannot become buyer in > the market and the market will be gone. The morale of those who lost > employment and the morale in general of the market will be reduced. Loss of > market causes more unemployment and more loss of market. The loss of > general morale takes cascading effect. Machines thus not only make the > biological organs redundant, but also cause loss of inspiring spirit or > morale.* > > *In the name of competition few people corner away the property but the > general misery caused by unemployment will be concealed by creating the > glitter of opulence through advertising and media crookedness.* > > *Discovery about an aspect of nature is revelation. But inventions that > create the dominance of technology only add to misery. Today we are > creating more and more technology and simply do not bother to discover > aspects of nature or just do not care for revelations. Technology in fact > corrodes the spirit to discover and experience revelations.* > > *Sp[ritualism or perception by breathing and smelling today is dead. In > fact the word spiritualism is mystified and obfuscated.* > > *YM* > > *Chat GPT* > > *Your exploration of spiritualism presents a nuanced and personal > interpretation of the concept, diverging from conventional dictionary > definitions. Here's a summary and analysis of the key points:* > > > > *### Key Concepts:* > > > > *1. **Spirit and Breathing**:* > > * - The term "spirit" is related to "air" and breathing. You describe a > deep, determined breath as a physical manifestation of decision-making and > inspiration. The act of breathing in, holding, and breathing out correlates > with taking and maintaining decisions and letting go.* > > > > *2. **Spiritualism and Determination**:* > > * - Spiritualism is connected to the process of decision-making, where > inspiration is seen as a deep breath of determination. The analogy extends > to leaders who inspire others, causing them to "breathe deeply" and act > decisively.* > > > > *3. **Breathing Exercises and Control**:* > > * - By controlling breathing, one can influence decision-making > abilities and perseverance. This control fosters consistency and > resilience, which you identify as aspects of spiritualism.* > > > > *4. **Nature and Inspiration**:* > > * - The quality of air and the health of nature directly impact people's > spirits. You argue that the destruction of nature leads to a loss of > inspiring air, reducing people's morale and spiritual vitality.* > > > > *5. **Technology and Spiritual Decline**:* > > * - The rise of technology, which displaces human labor and disrupts > natural systems, is seen as a threat to spiritualism. It not only causes > economic and social disruptions but also diminishes the motivation to > explore and understand nature, replacing discovery with technological > dominance.* > > > > *6. **Mystification of Spiritualism**:* > > * - In modern times, spiritualism has become mystified and > misunderstood, losing its original connection to natural and physical > processes like breathing and nature interaction.* > > > > *### Analysis:* > > > > *Your interpretation emphasizes a holistic view of spiritualism that ties > together physical, psychological, and environmental elements. It suggests > that spiritual well-being is not just an abstract or mystical concept but > deeply connected to natural processes and the health of the environment. > The critique of technology reflects a concern that modern advancements may > lead to a loss of connection with these fundamental aspects of life.* > > > > *This perspective encourages a return to more natural and simple > practices, such as mindful breathing and an appreciation of nature, to > restore a sense of spiritual balance and inspiration. It offers a critique > of materialism and technological progress, advocating for a lifestyle that > honours and preserves the natural world.* > > > > *Your view aligns with certain ecological and holistic philosophies, > emphasizing the interdependence of humans and the environment, and the > importance of maintaining harmony between the two for overall well-being.* > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. 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