Don't be real baffoonGopala. K. R

On Sun, Sep 1, 2024, 10:54 PM gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote:

> *Don't be a jocker Mr Rajaram.* if you are not a thenkalai iyengar which
> community you belong to? All are iyer group.* If you are not an iyer or
> iyengar,* you have no place in any iyergroups.
>
> On Monday, 2 September, 2024 at 08:29:19 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> No, I did not. And only you wrote so you have to prove it Not me . Why
> should I answer questions of a joker? KR
>
> On Sun, 1 Sept 2024 at 21:40, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Mr Rajaram,
>
> Did you not write that you are born in a village near Swamimalai  in a
> thenkalai iyengar family? I read it. I don't keep your mails  to prove to
> you.
>
> If you are not a thenkalai iyengar, then which community you are born? Are
> you an iyer of Kerala or Tamilnadu or Andhra? Or a Vadakalai iyengar or any
> other sub community of iyers?
>
> It is a Kerala Iyer group. So I am asking
>
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> On Monday, 2 September, 2024 at 07:52:23 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Mr Gopala, Only you have to stop your nonsense. Your brain ceased
> functioning long ago. It is the truth and nothing but the truth, it is not
> uppili appan but ONLY OPPU IL APPAN=OPILIAPPAN. Your hearsay has no basis
> except your usual lies but nothing but lies. I had never written anywhere
> that I am a thenkalai iyengar. You again casually lie out of box memory. If
> you have anything like that show me. Until you stop abusing me, I will not
> spare you. You have to behave along with other mosquitoes. I have proved
> you wrong all the N times. You were/are put to shame because of our cheeky
> tongue. You are inviting such measures. If someone hits I pay back but
> never ever I write no sense about anyone. Thank you Goebel
> KR IRS 1924 2924
>
> On Sun, 1 Sept 2024 at 21:00, Gopala Krishnan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> *You wrote  about a year back that you were  born in a Thenkalai iyengar
> family near swami malai. So I consider you as a thenkalai iyengar. *
> *Please don't argue without knowledge  about a temple. By telling priests
> in a temple having no knowledge, you are ill treating them. Stop ill
> treating priests whether they are in Shaivite or Vaishnavite temples. You
> are not above those temple priests in knowledge about a temple. Please stop
> such responses. *
>
> On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 9:54 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Vide the illiterate writing out of anger. AM I A THENKALAI IYENGAR?
> Those who had gone there to kumbakonam would have noticed described by
> those archakas as false saltless mistakenly invoked and in vogue. The
> tivya brapandham speaks oppu ila appan. Mom ekam is there which was not
> seen by Gopalakrishnan while eating puliyodharai. Poor soul  Forgives him
> as he does not know what he writes physically and literally. And deserves a
> neat quote addressed to him Om shanti
>
> 1. “We determine what is good, what is bad, what ought to be, and what
> ought not to be—all out of our inclinations of mind. But we seldom
> recognize the total relativity—the total meaninglessness—of all our
> defining. We don’t see that it’s through our obsession with meaning that we
> create meaninglessness.”
>
> 2. “What purpose does it serve to deny actual experience in order to run
> with an idea instead?”
>
> 3. “See confusion as confusion. Acknowledge suffering as suffering. Feel
> pain and sorrow and divisiveness. Experience anger or fear or shock for
> what they are. But you don’t have to think of them as evil—as intrinsically
> bad, as needing to be destroyed or driven from our midst. On the contrary,
> they need to be absorbed, healed, made whole.”
>
> 4. “How can something cease to exist that has no solid existence in the
> first place?”
>
> 5. “We often think we know things when in fact it’s only our imagination
> taking us further and further away from what is actually happening. What we
> imagine then seems very real to us. Soon we’re caught up in our imaginary
> longings and loathings. But if you’re here—truly present—you realize
> there’s nothing to run from or to go after. You can stay calm…Just be with
> this moment and see what’s going on.”
>
> 6. “If it’s Truth we’re after, we’ll find that we cannot start with any
> assumptions or concepts whatsoever. Instead, we must approach the world
> with bare, naked attention, seeing it without any mental bias—without
> concepts, beliefs, preconceptions, presumptions, or expectations.”
>
> 7. “Good and bad aren’t absolutes. They are beliefs, judgements, ideas
> based on limited knowledge as well as on the inclinations of our minds.”
>
> 8. “Our problem is that we don’t pay attention to what we actually know.
> We give our attention to what we think—to what we have ideas or beliefs
> about—and we discard what we actually see.”
>
> K Rajaram IRS 1924
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: *gopala krishnan* <[email protected]>
> Date: Sun, 1 Sept 2024 at 10:40
> Subject: Re: [KeralaIyers] Fwd: [iyer123] OPPILIAPPAN TEMPLE –KUMBAKONAM
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>, Patty
> Thatha <[email protected]>, Iyer <[email protected]>,
> Mani APS <[email protected]>, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]>,
> Laxminarayan Sarma <[email protected]>
>
>
> Mr Rajaram,
>
> I know very well as a thenkalai iyengar, you will not appreciate a posting
> on Vadakalai iyengar temple. Nothing more. Try to appreciate a posting on
> temple.
>
> Please do not ill write  about a temples.  I have verified fully  about
> temple and beliefs cannot be verified. Still please don't write ill about a
> temple beliefs. I have taken puliyodarai prasadam, without salt in the
> preparation. If you do not know, please keep quiet about the subject.
>
> Perhaps you may not be appreciating beliefs about a temple. But so far I
> have not seen a member writing ill of a temple in the iyer forum.
>
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> On Sunday, 1 September, 2024 at 08:49:40 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> OPPILIAPPAN
>
>  Ayonijā (अयोनिजा) refers to “divine origin”. — Many Divya Desams have
> references in their traditional histories (sthala-purāṇas) to the Lord
> seeking the hand of Mahā Lakṣmī, who is raised by a maharishi after
> discovering her as an infant of divine origin (ayonijā). *For instance,
> in Oppiliappan Koil, Markandeya Maharishi accedes to the request of Śriman
> Nārāyaṇa who seeks the hand of his daughter Bhūmī Devī*. She was found as
> a child in the Tulasi forest by the Mahārṣi. Ayonija (अयोनिज).—a. not
> born from the womb, not produced in the ordinary course of generation; शरीरं
> द्विविधं योनिजमयोनिजं चेति (śarīraṃ dvividhaṃ yonijamayonijaṃ ceti)
> TAITTIRIYA. SAMHITAI; तनयाम् अयोनिजाम् (tanayām ayonijām) RIG .11.47,48; 
> कन्यारत्नमयोनि-
> जन्म भवतामास्ते (kanyāratnamayoni- janma bhavatāmāste) MARKANDEYA v.1.3.
> The term OPPILI is oppu+il= oppu illadha= no comparison to any; Narayana
> had married the mahalakshmi who was not born in any womb as from sea direct
> or as seetha from earth etc. Such a perumal having the Mahalakshmi is so
> highlighted as oppu illadha appan. But people twisted it as saltless=uppu
> illadha.
>
>       Another sin removal is celebrated as pariharam as written here is
> again a misnomer. In Oppili Appan temple where one can have close Perumal
> dharisanam will see bright reflections from his right hand a huge diamond
> stead vak; MOM EKAM SARANAM VRAJA. That is the words of B G. The Lord says
> I will save all who surrender without any iota of doubt, HE will take him
> to mosha. This faculty is one of the base roots of Sri Ramanujar,
> SARANAGATI TATVAM OF VAISHNAVISM. Hence this kshetram is believed to be the
> place for moksham.
>
> NB    Mr Gopalakrishnan may be forgiven for his audacity to write
> illiterately. The above data is important frfpm Oppiliappan temple which
> Gopala does noy know about. Yet he will bounce that I write no sense,
> thrash only, irrelevant to the subject. Having read a lot of quora, his
> mind is now blowned.       K Rajaram IRS 1924
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: *Gopala Krishnan* <[email protected]>
> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 at 22:41
> Subject: [iyer123] OPPILIAPPAN TEMPLE –KUMBAKONAM
> To: <[email protected]>
>
>
> OPPILIAPPAN TEMPLE –KUMBAKONAM
>
> Thanjavur District-Tamilnadu-Compiled
>
> Dear friends,
>
> I had been to the temple three times on temple visits. Prasada from the
> temple will not be having salt addedwhere to be added. Peculiarity of the
> temple.
>
> The temple is close to TiruNageswaram- Snake temple. Those who like to
> visit Tirunageswaram temple can have their visit just walking about 100
> metres from Oppiliappan temple.
>
> Hope a divine reading.
>
> Gopalakrishnan 01-09-2024
>
> 1. Introduction
>
> Oppiliappan Temple, is a Hindu temple dedicated to Vishnu, located near
> Thirunageswaram, a village in the outskirts of the Kumbakonam in the South
> Indian state of Tamil Nadu. Constructed in the Dravidian style of
> architecture, the temple is glorified in the Naalayira Divya Prabandham,
> the early medieval Tamil canon of the Alvar saints from the 6th–9th
> centuries CE.
>
>  It is counted as the 60th of the 108 Divya Desams dedicated to Vishnu.
> Vishnu is worshiped as Oppiliappan and his consort Lakshmi as Bhudevi.
>
> The temple is one of the Pancha Kshethram, where Lakshmi was born as
> Bhargavi- the daughter of the sage Bhrigu.
>
> The temple is believed to be of significant antiquity and to have been
> initiated by the Medieval Cholas of the late 8th century CE, with later
> contributions at different times from Thanjavur Nayaks. The temple has two
> inscriptions dating from the Chola period, a five-tiered rajagopuram
> (gateway tower), and a granite wall. The complex contains all the shrines
> and water bodies associated with it.
>
> Oppiliappan is believed to have appeared for sage Markandeya and the Hindu
> deities Bhudevi, Brahma, and Shiva. The temple observes six daily rituals
> and three yearly festivals.
>
> The chariot festival, celebrated during the Tamil month of "Panguni"
> (March–April), is the most prominent.
>
> The temple is maintained and administered by the Hindu Religious and
> Charitable Endowments Department of the Government of Tamil Nadu.
>
> 1Legend
>
> The legend of the temple is mentioned in the Hindu scripture Brahmanda
> Purana. Tulasi, once did penance to attain closeness to the god Vishnu.
> Vishnu responded that his consort Lakshmi would appear under Tulasi's lap
> in Tiruvinnagaram. Tulasi appeared as a plant in the place where the temple
> is located. This is mentioned in the 53rd verse of Nammazhwaar in
> Thiruviruththam.
>
> The sage Markandeya worshipped Vishnu and desired to have Lakshmi as his
> daughter and Vishnu as his son-in-law. Once Markandeya was on a holy trip
> and after reaching Thiruvinnagaram, he felt it was the right place to get
> his desire fulfilled. Markandeya started a severe penance for thousand
> years, seeking Lakshmi's blessings.
>
> Lakshmi appeared as a baby under the tulasi plant. Markandeya recognized
> the baby as Lakshmi and raised her. When the young girl reached
> adolescence, on the panguni month of Shravana, Vishnu appeared as an old
> man and proposed marriage to her.
>
> Markandeya replied, "You are very ripe and old, my daughter is too young
> and she does not even know how to cook with proper salt contents", to
> which the old man replied, "If your daughter must cook without salt, then I
> will still take it as my best food, but I will not leave from here without
> marrying her". Markandeya sought Vishnu's help and then realised using his
> penance that the old man was Vishnu himself. When he opened his eyes,
> Vishnu appeared in his true celestial form. Markandeya married his
> daughter to Vishnu. As per the legend, the temple's Neyvethiyam (food
> offering) is always prepared without salt. The name Oppiliappan is a
> result of this legend.
>
> There is also a story behind the tank in this temple. Once a King had
> consummated with a daughter of a saint and hence the saint cursed him to
> become a bird. The king lived as a bird and one night when there was a
> storm, the branch of the tree the bird was sleeping on broke and fell into
> the water of this tank.
>
> The bird regained its original form as the King and since then this is
> known as the only theerththam that one can do theerth thaadanam even in
> the night. Since this tank has such healing power in the day as well as
> night, it is called "Ahoraathra Pushkarani".
>
>  The place is called by various names, including "Oppiliappan Sannithi"
> and "Uppiliappan Sannithi". The presiding deity is also called by various
> names.
>
> . And as per this legend, the prasad offered in the temple- Neyvethiyam,
> is prepared without any salt in it to this day.
>
> 3 History
>
> It is not clear from the inscriptions and records when the temple was
> initiated, but there are inscriptions from the Medieval Cholas period
> indicating generous gifts to the temple. There are two inscriptions
> recorded from the Naganathar Temple in Tirunageswaram. The epigraph
> numbered 211 of 1911 on the northern wall of the central shrine indicates
> gift of gold jewel worked in gems and pearls to the temple from the Chola
> king Parakesarivarman, alias Rajendra Chola I (1012–44 CE).
>
>  The second inscription numbered 218 of 1911 on the shrine's southern wall
> indicates a gift of land to the temple in the 14th year of the Chola king
> Rajaraja Rajakkesarivarman I.
>
> The tradition in many ancient temples in Tamil Nadu including this one is
> that the original image of the presiding deity is made of wood and
> replaced later with stone.
>
> ] There were a lot of additions made to the temple by Govinda Dikshitar,
> the minister of successive Nayak rulers, Achuthappa Nayak (1560–1614) and
> Raghunatha Nayak (1600–34) The temple is maintained and administered by the
> Hindu Religious and Endowment Board of the Government of Tamil Nadu.
>
> 4 Architecture
>
> The temple has a five-tiered rajagopuram (the gateway tower) and enshrined
> within a granite wall. The complex contains all the shrines and water
> bodies associated with it. The Sahasradhari plate and pot (kudam) are
> made of gold for performing Thirumanjanam (ablution) to the presiding
> deity.
>
> The temple also maintains golden sword, diamond crown and gold arm guard
> for the image of Hanuman. The shrine over the sanctum is plated with gold.
>
> 5 Sanctum and Deities
>
>  The main shrine of the temple houses the image of Oppiliappan in
> standing posture and it also houses the images of Bhoomidevi and sage
> Markendeya. The vimana is called Suddhananda, meaning "pure happiness".
>
> 6 Sub deities
>
> The Desika shrine is located near the sancturn sanctorum. On the sides of
> the first precinct, the shrine of Anjaneya is located on the southern,
> and Alvars' and Rama's on the northern and Ramanuja's on the eastern sides.
> . The idol of Hanuman is decorated with a diamond crown, golden sword and
> armour.
>
> The shrine for Maniappan is located in the second precinct in the
> southern side, while the shrines of Ennappan and the holy birth spot of
> Bhoomidevi are located in the northern side.
>
> Garuda's shrine is located right opposite the sanctum and right behind the
> temple mast.
>
> The shrine of dancing Krishna is located on the southern side of the main
> entrance.
>
> A marble hall is located on the western side in the inner precinct acts as
> the resting hall for the festival deities during festivals. Dolotsavam
> festival is celebrated in Another marble hall in the northern side of the
> temple.
>
> Adjoining the hall, there is a shrine where the images of Rama,
> Lakshmana, Sita and Hanuman are housed. The sacred bed chamber called
> Tiruppalliarai, covered full of mirrors is located next to it.
>
>  A Yaga sala for performing religious rituals is present in the temple.
> The temple has a hall for housing festival vehicles, a library, and a hall
> with eight carved pillars on the banks of the temple tank, where the annual
> float-festival is celebrated. The Kodimandapa, located to the south of the
> Garuda shrine, is used for several day-to-day religious practices. The
> annual Kalyana Utsavam festival is performed in the hall amidst music and
> dance programmes.
>
> 7 Counterpart of Tirupathi
>
> The temple is considered the southern counterpart of Thirupathi temple and
> hence devotees perform their marriages and vows as they do in Thirupathi.
>
> Outside the main complex, the temple maintains two marriage halls, a rest
> house containing five rooms, two other halls, a housing each for the small
> chariot and the big chariot. There is a garden around the third precinct of
> the temple and a much bigger garden about 0.5 km (0.31 mi) to the south
> of the temple, where Tulasi and flowers are grown. A hall in the garden is
> used for resting deities during the Vasantotsavam festival celebrated for
> six days in May–June every year.
>
> 8. Poojas
>
> The temple follows Vaigasana Agama and follows Vadagalai practices.
> During the Viswaroopa Seva, the first worship, Suprapada Prabarthi
> Mangalam, a verse exclusively dedicated to Oppiliappan is relayed.
>
> Thiruppavai is relayed after it, followed by naivethana in all shrines.
> Uchikalam is the last worship during the day time and happens at noon.
> During the evening, mutharkalam is the first worship sequence, recitals in
> Veda and Nithsuasandamam. Arthajamam is the last puja of the day.
>
> Details of the daily routine worship held in this temple as part of early
> morning:
>
> The deity of this temple is woken up at 5.45 am to the resounding sounds
> of the unique suprabatham and prapatti mangala slogam specifically penned
> for the Perumaal in this kshetram by the renowned Sri Vaishnava Acharya
> Vangipuram Navaneetham Sriramadesikacharyar the recipient of the presidents
> medal for sanskrit. This is broadcast over loudspeakers and enables the
> devotees to also rejoice in it. Following this at 6.00 am accompanied by
> the holy cow ( considered to be an aspect of Lakshmi Thayaar ) belonging to
> the temple, the Vishwarupa darshan is conducted. At 7.30 am the worship of
> the Perumal is conducted by reciting Thiruppavai. At 8.00 am the
> Tiruvaaraadanam rituals are conducted.
>
> 9 Festivals and religious practices
>
> The chariot festival is the most prominent festival of the temple,
> celebrated for nine days during the Tamil month of Panguni (March–April)
> and devotees from various places pull the chariot round the streets of
> temple.
>
> Verses from the 'Naalayira Divya Prabandham' are recited by a group of
> temple priests amidst music with Nagaswaram (pipe instrument) and Tavil
> (percussion instrument). The processional idols of Oppiliappan and Bhudevi
> are brought to the temple car early in the morning amidst Vedic chantings.
> Subsequently, the festive idols are taken to the 'ther thatti mandapam'
> (chariot launching hall). The 'ratharohanam', the rituals associated with
> taking the idols to the temple car is performed in an auspicious time
> before starting the procession.
>
> The temple celebrates six other festivals: Vasanta Utsavam (spring
> festival) for 6 days in the temple garden during Vaikasi (May–June),
> Pavitrotsavam (purifying festival) for 5 days during Avani (Aug – Sep),
> Brahmotsavam for nine days of Purattasi (Sept – Oct), Kalyana Utsavam (holy
> marriage of god and goddess) for 12 days commencing from Sravanam during
> Aippasi (Oct–Nov), Adhyayana Utsavam (ten-day-and-ten-night festival)
> during Margali (Dec–Jan) and float festival for 5 days during Thai(Jan –
> Feb).
>
>  Ramanavami, the festival associated with Rama, an avatar of Vishnu. The
> event is celebrated for ten days with music and dance performance and on
> the concluding day, kanakabhishekam (ablution with gold for the festival
> image) and Rama Pattabhishekam.
>
>  Sravan Deepam is a festival celebrated every month in the temple on the
> day of Tamil star of Thiruvonam and devotees observe fast called Sravana
> Vratham that day by consuming only unsalted food.
>
>  Tonsure ceremony for getting children shaved for the first time to
> promote proper growth and ear piercing is a very common practise followed
> in the temple.
>
>  It is believed that the place is as sacred as Vaikunta and as in
> Vaikunta, the river Vraja there flows as river Nattaru and hence
> considered sacred. The temple is counted as one of the temples built on the
> banks of River Kaveri.]
>
> 10 Literary mention
>
> Oppiliappan is considered the elder brother of the presiding deity of
> Tirupathi Venkateshwara Temple. The temple is revered in Naalayira Divya
> Prabandham, the 7th–9th century Vaishnava canon, by Periyalvar, Thirumangai
> Alvar and Nammalvar. The temple is classified as a Divya Desam, the 108
> Vishnu temples that are revered in the Vaishnava canon. The temple is
> counted as the 14th in the list of divyadesams in Chola Nadu and 83rd in
> the overall list.
>
> The Alvars address the presiding deity by various names like Oppiliappan,
> Vinnagarappan and Venkatachalapathy and his consort Bhudevi as Bhoomidevi
> Nachiar and Dharanadevi.
>
> 11 The scheme of Annadanam:
>
> In this temple, daily from Monday through Thursday the scheme of
> annadaanam instituted by the government of Tamilnadu is conducted at midday
> 12 noon and 100 individuals benefit from this scheme. On Friday through
> Sunday the number of beneficiaries is 150. Annadaanam is offered along with
> traditional vada and payasam.
>
> 12  Temple timings:
>
> The temple is open to devotees from 6.00 am up to 1.00pm during the 1st
> part of the day and from 4.00pm to 9.00pm during the 2nd part of the day.
>
> 13 Function conducted in the temple
>
> Details of the popular festivities that devotees conduct in this temple in
> significant numbers are 1. Ayush Homam 2. Kathu kuttal 3. Marriages 4.
> Shatiabda poorti 5. Sataabhishekam and 6. Tonsoring
>
> 14 Offerings in the temple.
>
> Offering            INR Price    Timing
>
> Siravana Sudharsana Homam      5000     06:00 AM to 10:00 AM
>
> Swarna Puspa Archana    500 08:30 AM
>
> Moolavar Thanga Kavasam   8000.    08:30 AM
>
> Moolavar Thirumanjanam       8000     10:30 AM
>
> Thirukalyanam 2500     04:00 PM
>
> Urchavar Thirumanjanam 2000     09:00 AM
>
> Prathanai Karuda Sevai    1500     05:30 PM
>
> Thanga Ratha Ulla       2000     06:00 PM
>
> Unjal Urchavam    1000     07:00 PM
>
> Kannadi Palliarai   1000     07:30 PM
>
> Niranthara Nithyarathana Kattallai   2000
>
> Niranthara Nithya Annadhana Vaippu Nithi 20000
>
> Niranthara Pasu Paramarippu Kattallai    5000
>
> One day Annadhanam   Weekdays: 2000
>
> Fri, Sat & Sun: 3670
>
> Kattalai Archana (1 year)       500
>
> Boomidevi Marriage Anumathi    10000
>
> Marriage Function       1000
>
> Take a Photo   200 Take a Video  500
>
> 15How to reach the temple
>
> Uppiliappan Temple is located in Thanjavur near the city of Kumbakonam. It
> can be reached easily in hired taxi- cabs, autos or state-run buses.
> Alternatively, you can drive down to the spot.
>
> 16 Pariharams
>
> To get relieved from sins:
>
> Rendering chandhan, Kumkum and flowers to the Lord.    Devoting Dhoopakal,
> Deepakal, vessels needed for pooja and Thirumanjanam (Bathing of the Lord),
> brass bell and silk clothing.
>
> In the tamil month of Panguni, on the day of Sravanam, performing the
> parihara as mentioned below would remove all the evil sins like murder,
> robbery etc.
>
> Early in the morning taking bath in the temple pushkarani. Give alms
> (dhanam) to needy people. Choose any 5 Brahmins and treat them as the 5
> forms of Oppiliappan (ie) as Ponnappan, Maniappan, Muthappan, Ennappan,
> Vinnagarappan. Then give them Sweet kheer(Payasam) and finally worship
> Oppiliappan in his Sannathi.
>
> For Child boon:
>
> Performing utsavam to Lord Oppiliappan is strongly believed to bless the
> couples yearning for child boon.
>
> 17 temple Address:
>
> Arulmigu Oppliyappan Temple, Thirunageswaram – 612 204, Thanjavur District.
>
> Temple Contact Details:
>
> Phone: 0435-246 3385,246 3685
>
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