There are controveersial descriptions even by the Indian authors defending
the meat-eat advocated by the Vedas. However, all verses in Vedas speaks
only about food, barley, rice, fuits etc never meat as eaten or encouraged.
At the same time, in elucidation of the history of persons either in the
Vedas or epics or upanishads, what kind of Non veg food some characters
consumd arwe detaild. Hope the difference is understood. Rama as aKshatriya
took Guhan food fish from Ganga River. Ahabharatham also narrated the food
habits of fw characters. ONLY BECAUSE THERE WERE MEAT EATING, PROHIBITIONS
WERE SPOKEN IN VEDAS AND TIRUKKURAL (PULAL MARUTHAL ADIKARAM). COW IS
PICTURISED AS DHARMA AND AS KAMADHENU HENCE COW MEAT IS LITERALLY
PROHIBITED.

A few verses where absolute prohibition n eating the meat is as under; not
entirely all verses spoken hee:

Atharveda: "It is definitely a great sin to kill innocents. Do not kill our
cows, horses and people."

Atharveda 10.10.34: “She (cow) is Kamdhenu — the divine cow that fulfills
all our desires.

Mahabharataham: “Oh cows! With your milk and give you physically weak
strong. Nurture the sick to the health. With your sacred utterances you
chastise our homes. Your glory is discussed in gatherings.”

Padma Puranam: “Cows are the abode of goddess of wealth. Sins don't touch
them. There exists a fine relationship between man and cow. A home without
cow is like a one without dear ones.”

Mahabharataham: “Donation of cows is superior to all others. Cows are the
supreme and sacred.”

Mahabharataham: “She (cow) shows Dharma, Artha, Kama and Moksha
(Liberation). She is an abode to the self knowledge.”

Cow is considered very sacred animal in Hinduism. So, eating beef by Hindu
is not allowed. Cow is called Aghanya in Vedas which means the one who
doesn't deserve to be killed.

         There are clear references in Vedas about meat consumption, but
some Hindu scholars don’t translate it literally despite the fact that it
is supported by other Hindu texts. Vedas no-where says that ‘You shouldn’t
have meat’, Hindu scriptures doesn’t prohibit meat consumption, it’s only
Hindu scholars that prohibits it. In the Vedas the cattle were gifted to
other Deities, because it was a source of money during the Vedic period. A
historian William Butler writes,“The people among whom the Veda were
composed, as here introduced to us, had evidently passed the nomadic stage.
Their wealth consisted of Horses, Cattle, Sheep, Goats and Buffaloes.
Coined money, and indeed money in any shape, was unknown. We meet but two
allusions to gold, except for the purpose of ornaments. The cow was to the
Vedic Hindu at once food and money.”

           HOWEVER, THE DISHEARTENING FACT AS OF TODAY IS: While according
to BBC report, just 20% of Indians are vegetarians,

“But new research by US-based anthropologist Balmurli Natrajan and
India-based economist Suraj Jacob, points to a heap of evidence that even
these are inflated estimations because of “cultural and political
pressures”. So people under-report eating meat – particularly beef – and
over-report eating vegetarian food. Taking all this into account, say the
researchers, only about 20% of Indians are actually vegetarian – much lower
than common claims and stereotypes suggest. Hindus, who make up 80% of the
Indian population, are major meat-eaters. Even only a third of the
privileged, upper-caste Indians are vegetarian.”

         In Garuda Purana its mentioned that people who kill and eat
animals (non vegetarian), they will go to one particular type of Naraka
(Hell) where they will be roasted and eaten by the Demons. This is called
*Kumbhipakam.* :जीवों को मार कर खाने से क्या होता है? |
<https://youtube.com/shorts/7lJqtn-wzKI?feature=share>Also, Vedic sciences
explain some deep secrets that, the type Food we eat influences us. The
physical aspects of food become our physical body, the mental aspect of
food impacts our mind and so on. Hence eating Sattwik food is always
recommended in Vedas and Puranas.

            BG 17.8: Persons in the mode of goodness(sattvik) prefer foods
that promote the life span, and increase virtue, strength, health,
happiness, and satisfaction. Such foods are fresh and juicy (like fruits),
succulent, nourishing, and naturally tasteful.

             BG 17.9: Foods that are too bitter, too sour, salty, very hot,
pungent, dry, and chiliful, are dear to persons in the mode of
passion(rajasik). Such foods produce pain, grief, and disease.

              BG 17.10: Foods that are overcooked, stale (like flesh),
putrid, polluted, and impure are dear to persons in the mode of ignorance
(darkness/tamasik).

               So today satvics in India is just 20%.

K Rajaram IRS 171124

On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 at 14:50, Narayanaswamy Sekar <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: N Sekar <[email protected]>
> Date: Sun, Nov 17, 2024, 1:19 PM
> Subject: Fwd - What a reply to Hindu haters?
> To: Kerala Iyer <[email protected]>, Rangarajan T.N.C. <
> [email protected]>, Chittanandam V. R. <[email protected]>,
> Narayanaswamy Sekar <[email protected]>, Suryanarayana Ambadipudi <
> [email protected]>, Mathangi K. Kumar <[email protected]>,
> Srinivasan Sridharan <[email protected]>, Rama (Iyer 123 Group) <
> [email protected]>, Dr Sundar <[email protected]>, Srinivasan K. S. <
> [email protected]>
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>
> ### "If eating goat meat is not wrong, how does eating cow meat become
> wrong?" questions modern secular writer Shobhaa De!
>
> Shobhaa De is a well-known writer, often celebrated for her opinions. Her
> argument here is:
> *"Meat is meat, whether it’s from a cow, a goat, or any other animal. Then
> why do Hindus discriminate between animals? Why is killing a goat
> acceptable but killing a cow considered wrong? Isn’t this hypocrisy and
> ignorance?"*
>
> Let’s address her logic with these responses:
>
> ---
>
> **Response No. 1:**
> Shobhaa De ma’am, you make an interesting point!
> But let’s consider this:
> Your *father, husband, brother, and son*—aren’t all of them men?
> Yet, why do you behave differently with each of them?
> For reproduction, you need your husband alone, don’t you?
> Can you behave with your father, brother, or son the same way you do with
> your husband?
>
> If intimacy is reserved only for your husband, wouldn’t it be *hypocrisy*
> or *ignorance* on your part not to extend it to others?
>
> Relationships such as a father, husband, brother, or son are defined by
> emotions, respect, and social beliefs, not merely biological identities.
> Similarly, the way we regard animals like cows and goats is shaped by
> cultural, emotional, and spiritual significance, not just their physical
> existence.
>
> ---
>
> **Response No. 2:**
> Here’s another question for you:
> You and your family likely consume milk from cows or buffaloes in the form
> of coffee or tea, right?
> But would you prepare coffee using milk from a dog, pig, or monkey?
>
> If, according to your logic, milk is milk regardless of its source, why
> wouldn’t you do this?
> Doesn’t this make your argument invalid and hypocritical?
>
> The issue here isn’t about *meat*. It’s about *beliefs* and *sentiments*.
>
> Just as familial relationships are built on values and trust, the way we
> treat cows, goats, or other animals reflects our cultural beliefs and
> emotional attachments.
>
> ---
>
> **Response No. 3:**
> A British man once asked Swami Vivekananda, *"Which animal produces the
> best milk?"*
> Swamiji replied, *"Buffalo milk is the best."*
>
> The man then asked, *"But don’t you Indians regard the cow as supreme?
> Isn’t it the best?"*
>
> Swami Vivekananda smiled and said, *"You’re asking about milk quality, but
> we consider the cow as our mother, not merely as an animal."*
>
> Likewise, while the cow may seem like just another animal to some, for
> Hindus, it holds sacred value as a *mother figure*.
>
> ---
>
> **A Final Question for Shobhaa De:**
> *"Save the tiger!"—the person advocating for it is seen as a *social
> servant*.
> *"Save the dogs!"—that person is hailed as an *animal lover*.
> But *"Save the cow!"—suddenly, that person is labeled a *religious
> fanatic*. Why?*
>
> The real tragedy is that such criticisms often come from our own people,
> who fail to respect the values and sentiments embedded in our culture.
>
> **Food for thought!**
>
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