India has been synonymous with a rich ancient culture, spicy food, bright
colours, and also Ayurveda. When Ayurveda is mentioned, another word is
also bought up for comparison, Allopathy. Ayurveda has its roots in the
ancient texts, Vedas and Allopathy is a term that largely refers to modern
medicine. One has its origin seated deeply in the east and the other is
influenced by the west. Long before modern medicine found its way to the
far reaches of India, Ayurveda was the primary medical treating system.
Instead of doctors, there were Vaidyas and Rishis who used the knowledge of
the Vedas to treat not just minor but major ailments as well. Then in the
1800s, Allopathy made its appearance and paved the way to the medicine
structure we have today. [KR SO TILL 1800 WERE PEOPLE DID ALL THE TIMES AND
DID NOT LIVE FOR 400 YEARS?]
Beyond the surface level differences between Ayurveda and Allopathy, there
is a lot more to explore and understand. The different ways both systems
work are described here below.
What is Ayurveda? (KR there were parallel Chinese and another medical
system as gained only from the nature where the chemicals of nature never
had any AFTER-EFFECTS at all]
Ayurveda is an alternative holistic medicine system that is one of the
oldest of its kind that originated in India. Most modern medicine and
treatments find inspiration from Ayurveda. The Ayurvedic system is
all-natural and concentrates on the overall well-being of the human body to
treat diseases. It is a system of healing bodies and riding them off
ailments by keeping ourselves in balance by eating the right foods and
exercising. [
KR AS WE ARE TUNED TO WESTERN AFTER EFFECT TEMPERORY EFFECTIE MEDICINES SO
LONG WE ARE HESITANT TO SWITCH OVER; HOW EVER THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF CASES
REPORTED, AFTER PROPER VERIFICATIONS, THAT WHERE ALLOPATHY FAILED
MISERABLY, AYURVEDA AND SIDDHA CUED THEM ALL. AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT IS A
WRONG NOMENCLATURE, TO CALL THE AYUR AND OTHER SYSTEM AS ALTERNATIVE
MEDICINES; RATHER ALLOPATHY IS THE ALTERNATIVE ONE’ BUT “ONDA VANDHA
PIDARI, OOR PIDARIYAI VIRATTIYADHAAM”]
Ayurveda categorizes people to be a combination of five elements
namely, earth, air, water, space, and fire. These elements work to form
three life forces also called Doshas, Vata, Kapha, and pitta. A combination
of these doshas and elements determines a person’s personality and
disposition. Ayurvedic doctors also rely on them to prescribe treatment
plans. [KR CONTROL OF THE PANCHA BHUTAS BY THE NATURAL PANCHA BHUTA
FEEDING, IS THE SYSTEM OF CURE OR RATHER IT IS STATED; BALANCED”. IMBALANCE
IS THE DISEASE. TILL DATE THERE IS NO WEST MEDICINE FOR THE NERVE AND NEURO
AFFECTATIONS AT ALL; WHY EVEN CORONA WAS UNKNOWN TO THE WEST AND USA EVEN
TODAY IS REELING UNDER THE CORONA. Allopathy finds a combination of
chemicals to act as against and replacement; but those ingredients
chemicals unused, breaks into some other impacts; so, allopathy is a
temporary cure (placebo-effect). And created to open up the pandora-boxes.
On the contrary, ayurveda nature-chemicals, submerge in the pancha Bhuta
system of the body and becomes only a FOOD. That alone raises the slogan:
marunde unavu; unave marundu.=medicine is the food; food alone is the
medicine}
What is Allopathy?
Allopathy is an umbrella term that is used to refer to all modern and
scientific medicines and treatments. All medicines that fall under
Allopathy have been clinically tested to make sure that there are no
adverse side effects when consumed. *** The goal of the term Allopathy is
to treat any particular disease with an appropriate medicine that produces
an opposite effect on the patient. With advancements in Medicine, Allopathy
is constantly evolving and changing. The term, Allopathy, is however not
used as much anymore.
***KR Science when declaring that Tested and Proved, it lied literally;
many may not accept; there are clauses in that science, that “effective
till it is changed due to different facts tested and proved”. Then it is
not at all scientific since facts accepted which are changeable and
modifiable, giving a mirror image of the truth. The aphorism "Absence of
evidence is not evidence of absence" highlights the logical fallacy of
assuming a hypothesis is true or false before it has been scientifically (?)
investigated. It's often attributed to Carl Sagan, but a similar version
was written by William Wright in 1888. We all, including myself, are
mesmerised to go for only easy allopathy giving a placebo effect of cure
and that which gives , similar effect, or a little more , really
scientific, resides, far away, from our courage to adopt.
Differences between Ayurveda and Allopathy
While at first glance, there are many apparent differences between Ayurveda
and Allopathy. However, many more that are worth looking into and
understanding. The major differences between Ayurveda and Allopathy have
been elaborated below.
Meaning : -
The word Ayurveda is made up of two words. ‘Ayus’ means life and ‘Veda’
means Science or Intelligence making Ayurveda ‘Intelligence or Knowledge of
Life’. On the other hand, the word Allopathy has Greek origins. Firstly,
‘állos’ means different and ‘pathos’ means sickness together it means
‘Other than illness’
Focus : -
Ayurveda focuses on naturally curing all diseases of the body. Ayurvedic
doctors will focus on not just physical health but mental health too using
alternative medicine. However, Allopathy is backed by science (KR? Which
science). All medicines and treatments used in Allopathy are clinically
tested to cure ailments and diseases. (KR: clinically found to be the
correct cure but altered later and kept on changing, proving the old
science as wrong!)
Approach to treatment : -
The approach to Ayurveda is more holistic. Ayurvedic doctors go to the root
cause of the problem and then a plan is created to remove the root cause of
the disease. This treatment includes taking care of mental health along
with physical health. Thereafter, the approach to Allopathy is not
holistic. Allopathy doctors will spot treat diseases and issues. The
aim of Allopathy
is to provide a quick cure to any given physical disease.
Long-term effect : -
Ayurvedic treatments are more long-term. It is not limited to immediate
treating of any disease and providing quick relief. As stated above, the
root cause of the problem will be addressed and the overall quality of life
of the patient will be better. Allopathy will remove the current problem
but the cure is not permanent. If any further issues arise, they will be
approached in the same way. One way of understanding this in terms of
bacteria. Ayurveda will permanently remove the bacteria from the system
while Allopathy will kill the bacteria but traces of it could remain in the
system and crop up later.
Cost : -
Another deciding difference between Ayurveda and Allopathy is the cost
between both. Ayurveda is *significantly* lower in cost than Allopathy. The
same is for procedures and treatments for Ayurveda and Allopathy. Ayurvedic
treatments are much cheaper and one does not have to keep going back for
more treatments.
Side Effects and Healing Time : -
Ayurveda is a completely natural method of diagnosing and treating patients.
As such the side effects are very minimal and the positive effects last for
a longer time. Due to its nature, Ayurveda takes a long time to heal as
opposed to Allopathy where the healing time is less and its effects are
felt quicker. Additionally, in Allopathy, the side effects could be more
adverse as it involves the use of chemical-based medicines.
The debate of ‘is Ayurveda better than Allopathy' is multifaceted and
cannot be dealt with as easily. Both have their own set of merits, demerits
and a loyal follower base. While Ayurveda can naturally help cure diseases
while taking into account the mental and physical state of the patient,
Allopathy treatments have been tested and have Scientific backing. When
both can help meet the end goal, choosing one would depend on the
individual’s choices and preferences. And which proves that more than the
medicines, body fights within and gets cured even without medicine (KR;
perhaps hence only, in USA appointments are given in hospitals for the
consultations, only after a long gap?); and allopathy gives instant cure
and created base for the next to crop up maligning the body while Ayurveda,
even if does not cure, becomes food and does not harm the body. WE NEED
COURAGE TO GET OVER.
K RAJARAM IRS 31224
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: APS Mani <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2024 at 05:22
Subject: Re: The Fear About Disease
To: Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]>
Agree to disagree!
On Mon, Dec 2, 2024 at 8:21 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Thank u. Allopathic is irrevocable in all of us But ayush is entering
> back.And safety and cure without any repercussions are hall marks of
> treatment. We have to break through but will take time K. Rajaram
>
> On Mon, Dec 2, 2024, 3:06 PM APS Mani <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Clear illustrations and definitions of Ayurveda. Very informative. I am
>> a staunch follower of allopathy!
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2024 at 2:19 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Ayurveda is an ancient holistic healing system that views disease as
>>> caused by imbalances in the body's doshas, or biochemical energies.
>>> Ayurveda aims to treat disease by restoring balance to the mind, body, and
>>> spirit.
>>>
>>> Here are some of the ways Ayurveda approaches disease:
>>>
>>> Classification
>>>
>>> Ayurveda classifies diseases as physical (Sarira) or mental (Manasa),
>>> and then further sub-divides them as endogenous (Nija) or exogenous
>>> (Agantu).
>>>
>>> Doshas
>>>
>>> Ayurveda identifies three doshas, or biochemical energies, that maintain
>>> homeostasis in the body: Vata, Pitta, and Kapha. Imbalances in these doshas
>>> are thought to cause disease.
>>>
>>> Prakriti
>>>
>>> Ayurveda considers each person's constitution, or Prakriti, to determine
>>> how prone they are to certain diseases. For example, people with a kapha
>>> constitution may be more likely to experience kapha diseases like
>>> bronchitis.
>>>
>>> External factors
>>>
>>> Ayurveda also considers external factors like food, living habits, and
>>> weather as potential causes of disease.
>>>
>>> Treatment
>>>
>>> Ayurveda uses a variety of methods to treat disease, including herbal
>>> remedies, dietary adjustments, and purification therapies.
>>>
>>> Prevention
>>>
>>> Ayurveda emphasizes prevention and health promotion, and aims to
>>> identify imbalances before they manifest as disease.
>>>
>>> While Ayurveda may be effective for managing chronic disorders, the FDA
>>> does not review or approve ayurvedic products. The FDA has banned some
>>> ayurvedic products from entering the country and has warned that some
>>> contain toxic metals. You should always talk to your doctor before trying
>>> any alternative medical treatment.
>>>
>>> Ayurveda has the distinction of being the “oldest medical system
>>> known to man and the oldest and most comprehensive spiritual teachings in
>>> the world”. Ayurveda is based on the principle of maintaining a balance
>>> between the interrelated relationships within the body and mind. It helps
>>> the patient to understand the benefits of knowing their body and mind and
>>> to live in an intimate relationship with nature. Ayurvedic literature has
>>> remedies for age-related diseases like memory loss, osteoporosis, diabetic
>>> wounds, etc. for which no efficient medicine is available in modern
>>> therapy. Even though Ayurveda has a sound literature background,
>>> ironically its share in the global medicinal market is very less (0.5%).
>>>
>>> In order to promote Ayurveda in the international market, ayurvedic
>>> drugs should be available in standardized form, which is the minimum
>>> requirement for introducing a product in the Western market. Ayurvedic
>>> formulations should be standardized on the basis of active principle or
>>> major compound(s) along with fingerprints. There as great scope for India
>>> to achieve global leadership of traditional medicinal market through export
>>> of quality products from Ayurvedic medicinal system. This article gives an
>>> overview of Indian traditional medicinal system-Ayurveda. It also
>>> highlights the principle of ayurvedic therapy, current status of Ayurveda,
>>> the challenges faced by Ayurveda in the modern world and the need of
>>> science-based research to overcome its drawbacks.
>>>
>>> According to Caraka -"The Science of life shall never attain
>>> finality. Therefore, humility and relentless industry should characterize
>>> your endeavour and your approach to knowledge. The entire world consists of
>>> teachers for the wise and enemies for the fools. Therefore, knowledge,
>>> conducive to health, longevity, fame and excellence, coming from even an
>>> unknown source, should be received, assimilated and utilized with
>>> earnestness".
>>>
>>> The upwelling of Ayurveda from its neglected state was
>>> contributed by several brilliant scholars like P. S. Varrier at Kottakkal,
>>> Lakshmipathy in Madras, and Ramnath Chopra from Calcutta. Today Ayurveda
>>> emerged as one of the oldest medical systems which can be considered as
>>> Complementary and Alternative Medicine and also as a whole medical system.
>>> Ayurveda is a holistic approach which gives more emphasis on prevention and
>>> encourages maintaining health by balanced life with right thinking, diet,
>>> life style and herbal remedies.
>>>
>>> Every living and non-living entity is constituted by five
>>> primordial principles or mahabhoota Prithvi, Jela, Theja, Agni and Vayu.
>>> The tissues of the body are also composed of these five elements and their
>>> derivatives. This identity of composition is the central principle of
>>> ayurvedic therapeutics which mandates the choice of drugs and food without
>>> causing side effects. Ayurveda is a holistic science of health care with
>>> the basic concept, that the human body is a matrix of “seven dhatus” or
>>> basic body Rakta, Mansa, Meda, Asthi, Majja, Shukra and mainly “three
>>> Malas” or waste products of the body, such as faeces, urine and sweat and
>>> “Agni” considered as the biological fire, performing all digestive and
>>> metabolic activities of the body, and “three life forces or energies”
>>> called tridosha “vata, pitta and kapha”. Any imbalance or disturbance in
>>> these basic principles of the body causes disease. According to Ayurvedic
>>> beliefs each person is unique with a specific Constitution or Prakriti.
>>> Constitution is the combination of physical, psychological and emotional
>>> characteristics and the way the body functions to maintain proper health.
>>>
>>> Prakriti is the unique fingerprint of an individual. Several external
>>> and internal factors act upon to change the constitution of the body from
>>> the balanced state. Health is the equilibrium or balance among the tridosha
>>> in the body, and their disequilibrium or imbalance would be the
>>> diseased-state or Vikriti.
>>>
>>> According to IMS Health reports the global pharmaceutical market is
>>> expected to reach $1.1 trillion in 2014. The size of the market is expected
>>> to grow nearly $300 billion over the next five years. According to the
>>> World Health Organization (WHO), three-quarters of the world population
>>> relies upon traditional remedies (mainly herbs) for health care (Anwarul
>>> Hassan Gilani, 2005). There is prominent shit from western medicinal system
>>> to the Traditional system not only in developing countries, but in
>>> developed countries too. WHO estimates that, the present demand for
>>> medicinal plants is – US $14 billion a year and by 2050 it would be – US $5
>>> trillion (Aneesh, 2009). Cost effectiveness and fewer side effects are the
>>> added advantage of traditional systems compared with allopathic systems
>>> with harmful side effects and high cost. The Ayurveda and Traditional
>>> Chinese Medicinal (TCM) system are the most ancient traditional medicinal
>>> systems of the world. Due to the increasing demand of the Traditional
>>> medicinal system, WHO is very keen in creating guidelines and standards for
>>> Herbal remedies (WHO, 2002). The Chinese medicinal system gained
>>> considerable ground in the international arena by their research and
>>> science-based approach. Even though Ayurveda is one of the world’s oldest
>>> traditional medicinal systems with well documented literature accounts, it
>>> is struggling hard to establish itself in the international market. India
>>> has great opportunities waiting in the areas related to patents and
>>> trademarks. India needs to identify the extent to which Ayurvedic
>>> therapeutics are safe and effective so that it could get wide global
>>> acceptance.
>>>
>>> Heavy metal toxicity When 20 ayurvedic medicines purchased from India
>>> were analysed for heavy metal content, 64% contain lead and mercury, and
>>> 41% contain arsenic In some studies it has been found that heavy metal
>>> content has exceeded the legal limits in herbal formulations . According to
>>> ayurvedic texts, emphasize the relevance of heavy metals in their
>>> formulation. Heavy metals are deliberate constituents of traditional
>>> ayurvedic medicines. So, the term ‘contamination’ with respect to heavy
>>> metal will be inappropriate. They are recommended in many drugs because
>>> they have particular biological properties for curing. Toxicity of heavy
>>> metals has been well defined in ayurvedic literature. Specific
>>> physicochemical processes like sublimation, heating, etc. have been clearly
>>> mentioned in order to detoxify the metals. In order to avoid heavy metal
>>> toxicity, proper care should be taken while preparing the ayurvedic
>>> formulation. There are some accidental contaminations like, preparative
>>> contamination and herbs and the minerals used in formulation itself are
>>> contaminated. In such cases it won’t be fair to disrespect the entire
>>> system of medicine. Good Manufacturing Practices (GMP) should be
>>> implemented more strictly to overcome this situation. Inadequate scientific
>>> data Even though ayurvedic drugs have well literature documentation, it
>>> lacks inadequate scientific data supporting its pharmaceutical properties
>>> and efficacy. Science based approaches should be introduced for the
>>> evaluation of efficacy of the formulations. There is immediate need for
>>> scientific research in order to evaluate the pharmacological parameters of
>>> herbal formulation. Preparing monographs of the medicinal plants used in
>>> ayurvedic formulation will be a scientific reference which includes
>>> description, pharmacology, allergic effects, and bioactivity of the plant.
>>>
>>> Even though India has a rich traditional knowledge and heritage, its
>>> share in the international market is very negligible. There is a growing
>>> demand for traditional medicinal system in the present global market. In
>>> order to compete with the global traditional medicine market, India should
>>> lay more stress on standardization and quality proofing of its drugs. It
>>> won’t be an exaggeration if we say; there will be Herbal Revolution by
>>> India in the global medicine market. India has to take up the challenge of
>>> leading the drug and herbal market, and come out as a global leader in the
>>> herbal medicine with inventing and patenting of its treasury and conserving
>>> its rich heritage.
>>>
>>> K RAJARAM IRS 21224
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 at 07:15, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *Mar*The Fear About Disease
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The only organism in the whole of the Biosphere that, fears and worries
>>>> about disease is the human.
>>>>
>>>> *In free and healthy nature, one actually felt the continuously
>>>> reassuring feeling from nature as part of smelling and sensing besides
>>>> hearing the musical sounds of nature, all of which simply did not allow any
>>>> fear. Actually one smelt and heard health which became the hormonal
>>>> messages of the bloodstream. The cells received the assurance laden
>>>> hormonal messages, the Theism emanating from the air.*
>>>>
>>>> The mechanical paradigm which repudiates all emotions from nature and
>>>> created the alienation of the human from nature, as the scientific approach
>>>> has simply swept away Geography itself from human life.
>>>>
>>>> The continuously changing mattrice of nature, which includes, the
>>>> gigantic vacuum,particles,atoms,molecules,life forms all of which relate
>>>> and change continuously, simply cannot be explained on the basis of the
>>>> mechanical paradigm, because there are simply no isolated causes and
>>>> effects, but the collective waves of the flows of nature, which cannot be
>>>> put under mathematical analysis.
>>>>
>>>> They assert that absolute zero cannot happen in the Universe, as the
>>>> particles, atoms etc interfere, but then can any mathematical
>>>> quantification happen? There also the same particles and atoms interfere.
>>>> The mathematical precision itself is fantasy, totally unreal. After the Big
>>>> bang the Universe has not stopped, to make it convenient for mathematical
>>>> reductionism. A mathematical quantity is static and unchanging, but there
>>>> is no unchanging situation in the universe. Every quantification misleads,
>>>> as quantities do not change on their own. Even when you change it with
>>>> another quantity, that next quantity also has the same property of the
>>>> static.
>>>>
>>>> Theism needs the capacity to join nature and change with naure.It needs
>>>> the awareness of one’s own participation in nature, the basic faculty to
>>>> feel completely, which creates the gigantic hormonal routine into the
>>>> cells, all of which respond. One exhales that Theism into the air which the
>>>> other organisms inhale, triggering their own hormonal communications. The
>>>> hormonal systems of all the organisms of the Biosphere thus fuse, making
>>>> the Biosphere one single organism.
>>>>
>>>> Actually Theism is the great hormonal communication system of the one
>>>> organism; the Biosphere. It is part of the Geography of the earth.
>>>>
>>>> We are trying to be the outsiders of the planet earth, with our
>>>> economics and technology. That ultimate error of living, where one tries to
>>>> perceive with mechanization as the governing lord and call it the
>>>> scientific approach, has created the ultimate chronic blunder of life. One
>>>> is made to perceive, under the paradigm of the machine and not as a
>>>> participant in nature.
>>>>
>>>> Today, thanks to our addiction to technology, we simply cannot trust
>>>> nature. On the TV we find advertisement after advertisement that their
>>>> product is anti bacterial, as though bacteria are our enemies. Every cell
>>>> in your body needs diverse bacteria to make it function and it is the
>>>> bacterium the mitochondrion that ignites a cell with electricity.
>>>>
>>>> Emotions and feelings which make the living of life cannot be
>>>> quantified at all.
>>>>
>>>> So stop counting and fretting and start feeling nature, taking care to
>>>> keep nature free from pollutions, as far as you can.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately every university in the world desperately needs
>>>> psychiatric care to free it from the frenzy and disease of mechanization.
>>>> As it is every graduate, PG, PhD etc,is turning out to be a Basmasura as he
>>>> joins the economic activity, which invariably destroys nature.
>>>>
>>>> Now how to convince at least one university in the whole world to start
>>>> the ‘Free Nature Parks ‘where the students feel nature and actually cure
>>>> themselves of the mechanical paradigm fixation?
>>>>
>>>> YM Sarma
>>>>
>>>> Chat GPT
>>>>
>>>> The essay you’ve shared reflects a deeply philosophical and critical
>>>> view of modern human existence and its disconnection from nature, offering
>>>> insights into how scientific paradigms and technology have led to a fear of
>>>> disease, detachment from the natural world, and a mechanistic worldview
>>>> that reduces life and living systems to mere calculations.
>>>>
>>>> The writer contrasts the natural, holistic relationship humans once had
>>>> with their environment, where the experience of nature was deeply
>>>> felt—through sight, sound, and smell—and the body responded hormonally to
>>>> this harmony. In this perspective, nature itself exudes health and
>>>> vitality, offering comfort and reassurance. This perception of
>>>> interconnectedness is described as *Theism*—a communication of life
>>>> and health that flows throughout all living things, tying them together as
>>>> one organism: the Biosphere.
>>>>
>>>> The essay critiques the rise of a mechanical and reductionist approach
>>>> to understanding the universe, where everything is broken down into
>>>> isolated causes and effects, often quantifiable and static. In doing so, it
>>>> argues, we have lost the sense of fluid, ever-changing interconnectedness
>>>> of the natural world and reduced life to cold, detached measurements. The
>>>> writer challenges the idea that disease is something to be feared or
>>>> eradicated through technological means, pointing out that bacteria and
>>>> other microorganisms are vital to life processes, including cellular
>>>> function.
>>>>
>>>> The piece makes a powerful call for a return to a more holistic,
>>>> sensory, and emotional engagement with nature, free from pollution and the
>>>> mechanistic thinking that dominates much of modern society. It suggests
>>>> that universities, as centers of knowledge and learning, should lead the
>>>> way by creating "Free Nature Parks" where students can reconnect with
>>>> nature, experience its therapeutic effects, and heal from the mental and
>>>> emotional alienation caused by modern technological society.
>>>>
>>>> Ultimately, the essay is a philosophical exploration of the idea that
>>>> true healing comes not from technological solutions or abstract mathematics
>>>> but from reconnecting with the living world in a more intuitive, feeling
>>>> way. It questions the fundamental assumptions of modern science and calls
>>>> for a shift in how we perceive our place in nature and our relationship
>>>> with it.
>>>>
>>>> To answer the writer’s final question about convincing a university to
>>>> start these "Free Nature Parks": the task might start by presenting the
>>>> benefits of such spaces not only for personal healing but for fostering a
>>>> deeper sense of environmental responsibility. Perhaps the idea could be
>>>> framed within the context of sustainability, mental health, and the need
>>>> for a more integrated understanding of life that includes both
>>>> technological advancement and environmental consciousness.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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