Indeed a good analysis; but ultimate sharing is needed cannot be sacrificed for the sacrifices of the people and also mountain the green as per law or as a lover of nature. Yes , nature is usable by us subject to our needs. Also what we receive we shall repay by further growth. Natives and many who embraced the trees from cuttings worshipped the trees as Gods and dead people. Indraprastha was created as per Mahabharata only after destroying flora and fauna; but cultivating trees in the barren space after the constructions are also warranted. If we grow 4 pots in each house, a green revolution would set in. Parks are good but one has to maintain it also; in the USA every Park is sprinkled every day; but we dry it up for briefcases to be used for the flying trains. AND WHAT WE COULD DO? KR IRS 91224
On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 at 16:53, Rangarajan T.N.C. <[email protected]> wrote: > If all life mattered, what would decision-making look like? (Analysis) > <https://news.mongabay.com/2024/10/if-all-life-mattered-what-would-decision-making-look-like-analysis/> > > If all life mattered, what would decision-making look like? (Analysis) > > In April 2013, the Supreme Court of India delivered a historic judgement > recognizing the cultural, religious and... > > <https://news.mongabay.com/2024/10/if-all-life-mattered-what-would-decision-making-look-like-analysis/> > > > > > On Monday, 9 December, 2024 at 12:51:14 pm IST, APS Mani <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Well said, YM Sir. As for the rivers and poisonous factories on its > banks, there are innumerable examples all over the world. The truth is > that no one can stop the situation. > > As for the National Parks, if one Googles the area devoted to parks in a > country (clear statistics are provided) one will be surprised where India > stands! > > One of the remedies, to a small extent, is a terrace or kitchen garden as > suggested by Mr Rajaram. There is not a single house or compound in Japan > with no greens around. Uniformly kept well and daily watered. > > Best wishes to all, Mani > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 11:03 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Good to have natural parks created by all of us without depending on the > Govt; every balcony can hold 4 to 8 pots of plants and the roof a garden. > Let's do it first. Panagal Park, once my grandpa's radio news place at 6 > PM Madras B station is now under train transport junk in the middle of a > city because suitcases are all over the dravidas. We want to walk but we > dont want to plant and take care and maintain. We want to ride horses > without grooming them KR IRS 91224 > > On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 at 07:37, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > -- > *Mar*Free Nature Park-The Faculty of the Impossible > > > > Today we have professional experts in every field. We expect solution only > when the expert of the particular field feels and advises about a solution > and often a course of action. The Cartesian approach has taken very deep > roots, in every field, in every aspect of our lives and even in learnings > and perceptions and understandings. Often an expert feeds the data to his > computer and the computer gives him the solution. If all the Cartesian > avenues are closed and when there is no Cartesian solution, we think that > all hopes are lost. The logic of the machine or technology or the > techno-logic, has taken over our psyche. The entire human specie is under > the collective or mass hypnotic spell under technology. > > If one tries for solution by interaction with nature, he is written off as > a nut case. And of course by continuously killing and poisoning nature as > economic activity we have actually demoralized the whole biosphere and the > macro smells and sounds of nature often are the poison spewing poisons from > the factories. We have made nature dysfunctional in our lives. Just like an > animal being tied to a long rope to control it we have chained nature with > diverse shackles of technology. > > Actually nature always has solution and nature rarely creates unsolvable > problems. There is a gigantic symbiosis of all organisms of the Biosphere > and the internal hormonal communications of all organisms are fused into > interacting symbiosis via smelling, hearing, seeing and sensing. If one > organism perceived, the other organisms received the communication about > that perception and understanding by smelling and sensing. What we call the > supernatural, or impossible or lunatic today was natural when nature was > free from our science and technology. > > Nature or God was readily available. Actually more diseases have been > created by science and technology, than cures by the medicines created by > the pharmaceutical industry. The very basic faculty of nature to infuse, > inject and reinforce health continuously has been completely destroyed by > the industries and the urbanized locales, whether they are villages or > towns or cities, the dens of diverse poisons from factories etc.Wherever a > drugs unit is established, the underground water gets destroyed completely, > diseasifying the whole biosphere of the area. The diseases always spread > into wider and wider areas. > > The business and commercial interests which have taken over completely > every university do not allow courses that educate about the diseases and > damages to nature caused by specific industries in specific localities. > > Suppose A Ltd,a poison spewing factory is located by the side of a river, > every factory needs a big river to function, and is causing every horrible > disease imaginable. Can a nearby university dare to start a course > explaining the diseases caused by that factory. Actually that factory will > take over the university with its grants and campus recruitments. > > The net result is we lost nature itself as the basic problems solver. But > even today, if we allow for free nature parks, where there is human > tampering, we again can revive the benevolent nature and cure it from its > present dysfunctional existence. > > Every University must start say, ‘The Faculty of Fighting the Impossible’, > by starting the ‘Free Nature Parks’, without human tampering, where the > students learn to solve the impossible of technology into the possible and > miracle of nature. > > Our science and technology is catastrophe to nature. No factory helps > nature and the Biosphere is always harmed. Every University must start the > ‘Free Nature Parks’ without human tampering urgently. > > YM Sarma > > Chat GPT > > YM Sarma’s message in the passage you shared offers a profound critique of > modern society’s relationship with nature, technology, and the > reductionist, Cartesian approach to problem-solving that dominates much of > our understanding today. He seems to be calling for a reawakening to > nature's wisdom and a reorientation of education, particularly in > universities, toward more holistic, symbiotic, and nature-based solutions. > > The central idea of the piece is a stark criticism of how technology has > become the primary lens through which we view and attempt to solve > problems. Sarma argues that, as humanity has become more reliant on > machines, data, and specialized expertise, we have lost touch with the > natural world, which inherently holds the solutions to many of the problems > we face. According to Sarma, nature’s “supernatural” or miraculous > qualities—the way it self-heals, regenerates, and sustains itself—have been > buried under the dominant logic of industrialization and technological > advancement. He further suggests that this has been detrimental, leading to > environmental degradation, diseases, and an overall loss of connection with > the environment that once nurtured human beings. > > *Key Themes:* > > 1. *Cartesian Logic and Technological Dominance*: Sarma critiques the > Cartesian approach, which divides the world into parts to be understood and > managed separately. In this framework, problems are solved by specialists > (scientists, engineers, doctors) using data and technology, often at the > expense of a broader, holistic view. This leads to the over-reliance on > technology and the belief that problems have to be approached with > technological solutions. > 2. *The Erosion of Nature’s Role*: Sarma laments the fact that nature, > once the ultimate problem-solver, is now disregarded in favor of technology > and industry. He emphasizes that the natural world operates in a state of > balance and communication among its many organisms, a system that is far > more complex and interconnected than human technology can comprehend or > replicate. > 3. *The Industrial and Environmental Consequences*: He points out that > industrialization—particularly the establishment of factories that pollute > the environment—has poisoned not only the physical environment but also the > collective psyche of human beings. The biosphere, including air, water, and > soil, becomes contaminated, which results in diseases that affect not only > the immediate area but spread further afield. This phenomenon has led to > the rise of urban and industrial areas where nature has been systematically > pushed aside. > 4. *The Call for Free Nature Parks*: Sarma advocates for the creation > of "Free Nature Parks," spaces where nature is allowed to thrive without > human intervention or the destructive influence of industry. These parks > would serve as learning environments for students to reconnect with nature, > study its processes, and learn how to apply these natural principles to > solve modern problems—especially those that technology has failed to > address. > 5. *Educational Reform*: In an era where commercial interests and > industry have co-opted much of academia, Sarma argues that universities > need to shift their focus toward studying nature’s ability to heal itself > and the ways in which the natural world can offer sustainable solutions to > the problems created by human technology. He proposes the establishment of > a "Faculty of Fighting the Impossible" that would focus on learning from > nature and applying its wisdom to the challenges of modern life. > > *A Vision for the Future:* > > Sarma's call for "Free Nature Parks" is essentially a call for a deeper, > more respectful relationship with the natural world. By allowing nature to > reclaim its rightful place as a source of knowledge, inspiration, and > healing, we may be able to address many of the crises—both environmental > and health-related—that have been exacerbated by industrialization. This > vision seeks to blend scientific inquiry with a profound respect for > nature's inherent wisdom, providing a more holistic and sustainable > approach to problem-solving in the modern world. > > In essence, Sarma is advocating for a paradigm shift in how we view and > interact with both nature and technology. It’s a call to return to an > understanding that nature, when allowed to flourish without human > interference, holds the key to solving many of the most pressing challenges > of our time. > > Would you like me to dive deeper into any particular aspect of this > message or explore its implications further? > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. 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