TAITRIYA SAMHITA 1 21
Aviveki Narayana urchin duped Taittiriya samhita 1 21 is only those 3
words; Please listen and this is 1 21 wholly; https://youtu.be/PmqxTd7d2eE
; and here the liar is caught squarely. One who does not know shall not
pretend.
Rest is his senile blabbering; what has to do with the rightful
meaning attributed by sages? and who is this ignorant Narayana and co?
The stupid Narayana writes from his imagination against the
Archeological survey of India and its researchers’ findings with the
evidence; and is Narayana a fool of an ass? and why are you people sitting
pretty? Don’t you have any responsibility to sift?
K R IRS 27325
On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 at 06:57, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Dear folks
>
> There is a Malayalam saying:-
>
> "Take into your home a stray vagrant flea-infested mangy starving homeless
> dog from the street, bathe it, cleanse it, feed it with the best food, and
> place it in the centre of your hall. It will immediately wag its tail, run
> out and search for human excreta to eat."
>
> Fits perfectly the character of an ex-IRS former tax collector now turned
> full-time garbage-collector who retains his unique faculty of
> lying even when he is easily detected.
>
> For example, he claims, in his vain attempt at rebuttal in his article
> headed "soma juice":-
>
> "*The (soma) yaga lasting from more than twelve days to thousand years is
> called ‘Satra’[1]. Taittiriya Samhita,*
> *1. 2. 1.*.
>
> The yajur-veda thaiththireeya samhithaa says no such thing.
>
> What it actually says, under the heading "agnishtome krayaha", is:-
>
> "*somasya thanoorasi thanuvam me paahi*"
>
> which under no misinterpretation can be rendered as soma-yajnya being a
> thousand-years-long yaagam.
>
> Twist and turn as he may, he only affirms, which was never disputed, that
> the soma juice is extracted from plants.
>
> And that indra and the other vedic deities and their wives are earnestly
> and repeatedly invited to join in the orgy of drinking the intoxicant
> soma-juice as much as they wish, and in return bestow on the supplicants
> such blessings as innumerable cows, horses, other pleasant things, and
> wealth.
>
> Being uninitiated, uneducated and a lone wolf wandering in the desert, the
> current garbage-collector is unaware that just as soma-juice is of
> vegetable origin, so are other intoxicants such as European champagnes,
> wines, beers, Indian toddy and arrack, Chinese samsu, Japanese sake,
> Russian vodka, Pacific Islands' kava, European gin, rum, whisky, brandy,
> and American "hooch" and "root beer".
>
> Just as in today's social circles no party is complete without intoxicants
> being served, so, it would appear, soma-juice was the prized and popular
> intoxicant served to vedic gods at functions during vedic times, according
> to the r'g-vedam.
>
> The garbage-collector proudly proclaims:-
>
> "*Indra is described in Ṛgveda as the first and most favorite national
> deity born to goddess Aditi and Dyaus(both revered as earth and heaven).
> More hymns are dedicated to Indra’s honor than to the praise of any other
> divinity. He is the God who reigns over the region of heaven. Born as a
> hero, Indra attains Godly status by his valor.*"
>
> My comments:-
>
> Let us not forget the sad tale of Ahalya, wife of Brahmarishi Gauthama,
> whom Indra seduced one night, and the couple were caught *flagrante*
> *delicto* by the rishi and Indra was cursed that his body be turned into
> a thousand vaginas.
>
> Let us also not forget that Lord Sree Krishna told his devoted cowherds
> and cowgirls not to worship Indra, whereupon, on their doing so, Indra
> invoked the powers of the rain and the wind gods (Varuna and Vaayu) to
> destroy the hill on which the cowpeople lived, in a vain attempt to
> annihilate them totally. And Lord Sree Krishna lifted and upheld the hill
> on his little finger, thus saving
> his devotees from Indra's rage. For which heroic act Lord Krishna is
> revered as Giridhara Gopaala.
>
> The garbage-collector also tries to bamboozle innocent trusting readers by
> saying:-
>
> "*Soma was linked with the moon, calling it the ‘moon plant’ because the
> plant was gathered by moonlight on mountain regions and carried to the
> place of sacrifice.*"
>
> My comments:-
>
> This weak attempt at deception also fails.
>
> Nowhere in the r'g vedam or any of the other two vedams does it say that
> the soma plant "*was gathered by moonlight on mountain regions*" (and
> hence soma was linked with the moon).
>
> In our pooja rituals we call Monday "somavaaram", or the weekday of the
> moon. Lord Shiva is called Somashekaran (the deity
> who wears a crescent moon on his head). Somanaatha-svaami is the deity of
> the oft-destroyed Somnah temple in North India.
>
> Is the garbage collector trying to say that soma juice is just "mooshine"?
>
> There is a popular ditty out west in the United States:-
>
> "*I'm a rambler, I'm a gambler; I'm far away from home;*
> *And if you don't like me then leave me alone.*
> *I'll eat when I'm hungry, and drink when I am dry,*
> *And if moonshine won't kill me I'll live till I die."*
>
> As for the oft-repeated Grand Lie that the r'g-vedam came first, I have
> pointed out many and many a time that when Lord Prajaapathi Brahma first
> gave out the vedic manthrams to his mid-born Sanaka quadruplets, they were
> an undifferentiated mass. It was only much, much later that the original
> Vyaasas (not the illegitimate Vaasa od Mahaabhaaratham) split the mass
> into r'g, yajur, for ease of study.
>
> Let me repeat, for the garbage-collecor's attention, that a thousand lies
> do not turn a lie into the truth.
>
> The r'gvedam was no earlier than the yajur. Nor the saamam. It was
> contemporary with the other two.
>
> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 5:01 PM Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Dear folks
>>
>> What is r'g-vedam, which is touted by westerners (and by some uninitiated
>> uneducated blindly imitating locals) as the first and most important of
>> our vedams?
>>
>> The serious student of its first two chapters will be forgiven for
>> concluding that it is nothing more than a rallying cry to the vedic gods
>> such as indra, agni, vaayu, the maruts, and varuna to come in haste and
>> assemble, together wives, to join in an orgy of drinking the intoxicating
>> soma juice and,
>> in return showering the devotees with gifts of cows, horses, thousands of
>> other valuable things, untold wealth and blessings.
>>
>> Consider, for example, the following:-
>>
>> *vaayavaa darshathame somo arangkrughaaha theshaapaa hi shrudheehavam l*
>> (R V Cap. I, sooktham 2, sargam 3)
>>
>> meaning --
>>
>> O visible god of the winds, come across and drink the soma juice. The
>> entirety of the supply of soma juice is for you alone. Please drink all of
>> it.
>>
>> *vaaya vindrascha sunvatha aa yaathamam panishkruth l dhiyam
>> khruthaacheem saadhananaa l*
>> (R V Cap. I, sooktham 2, sargam 4)
>>
>> meaning --
>>
>> May you, O god of winds and may you, indra, arrive and partake of the
>> ceremony of drinking soma juice.
>>
>> *ashvino yajvareerisho dravath paanee shubhaspathi l*
>> (R V Cap. I, sooktham 3, sargam 5)
>>
>> meaning --
>>
>> O twin-horses ashvini gods, soma juice is specially brewed for you both.
>> Please come and drink it
>>
>> *indrasoma piba ruthunaa nvavishanthindavaha l *
>> *mathsaraasthadokasaha ll*
>> (R V Cap. I, sooktham 15, sargam 28)
>>
>> meaning --
>>
>> Hey indra, on this auspicious occasion drink as much soma juice as you
>> wish.
>>
>> R V Cap. I, sooktham 16, sargam 31:-
>>
>> Hey indra, drink up all the soma juice filling all the vessels in
>> preparation for the fire-sacrifice so as to give you strength.
>>
>> *somapaa soma peethaye l*
>> R V Cap.II, sooktham 21, sargam 3)
>>
>> meaning --
>>
>> Let the celestials who so wish drink up all the soma juice.
>>
>> *asya somasya peethaye l*
>> (R V Cap.II, sooktham 22, sargam 4)
>>
>> meaning --
>>
>> Let the ashvini twins drink the soma juice prepared for them.
>>
>> *agne pathneerihaavaha devaanaamushatheerupa l thvashtaaram soma
>> peethaye ll*
>> (R V Cap.II, sooktham 22, sargam 5)
>>
>> meaning --
>>
>> Let all the wives of all the devathaas join in, in drinking the soma
>> juice, including the celestial called thvashtaa.
>>
>> *agnaayeem somapeethaye l*
>> (R V Cap.II, sooktham 22, sargam 6)
>>
>> *asyasya somasya peethayey l*
>> (R V Cap.II, sooktham 22, sargam 8)
>>
>> *indramaa somasya peethayey l*
>> (R V Cap.II, sooktham 22, sargam 9)
>>
>> *yachchiddhi sathya somapaa anaaashasthaaa ivasmasi l*
>> (R V Cap.II, sooktham 29, sargam 2)
>>
>> meaning --
>>
>> Hey indra who loves drinking soma juice, bless us with uncountable
>> numbers of cows, horses, other thousands of valuable things, and wealth.
>>
>> *aava indrang krivim yathaa vaajanthaha shathakrathum maahishtam sincha
>> indubhihi l *
>> *shatham vaayaha shucheenaam l sahasramaa samaashiraam ll*
>> (R V Cap.II, sooktham 30, sargam 28)
>>
>> meaning --
>>
>> We are performing tharppanam (sacred oblations) using soma juice. Let
>> indra who loves the various varieties of soma juice and also the various
>> varieties of cocktails of milk mixed with soma juice rain blessings upon us.
>>
>> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>>
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