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<[email protected]>: 550: 5.1.1 The email account that you tried to reach does not exist. Please try 5.1.1 double-checking the recipient's email address for typos or 5.1.1 unnecessary spaces. For more information, go to 5.1.1 https://support.google.com/mail/?p=NoSuchUser 41be03b00d2f7-b1fb3920d7asi370872a12.1 - gsmtp ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Dear friends, As I expected Mr Rajaram has reacted. "What is the inborn nature of Gopala?; illiteracy and then bouncing back?" Whether illiteracy can be an inborn nature? Mr Rajaram does not think before he reacts. Bouncing back can be an inborn nature.. Before reacting he should think twice. I have read his responses- He has stated his great grand father late Muthiah was from Harikesanallur. He has also responded his greet grand mothers have walked from Swamimalai to Madurai and returned back on the same day after seeing their sisters. If I refer this in a later mail I am sure- he will refute telling he did not wrote so and ask me to reproduce them. If I have to keep in store his postings, I require a very large external memory for it. I don't argue with Mr Rajaram. All of you know how much I am literate. No comparison I make. Arguing or exchanging mails with him only disturb mental peace. Gopalakrishnan On Tuesday, 6 May 2025 at 09:55:01 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]> wrote: Orally transmitted are the versions of our Vedas and other scriptures too ,so what? Even Greek and bible and Quron, buddisa, Jainisa are orally transmitted only. What is the inborn nature of Gopala?; illiteracy and then bouncing back?; KUPPURA KAVIZHNDAALUM, MEESAYIL MANN OTTALAI? oRIGINAL IS HISTORY; THE FOLLOW UP IS OUT OF bHAKTI; lEGEND IS A STORY UNAUTHENICATED; BUT BECAUSE THERE IS NO SAND IN THE MOUCHE, DOES NOT MEAN HE BECAME WISE? K Rajaram IRS 6525 On Tue, 6 May 2025 at 09:16, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote: Dear friends, Leave aside abuse. It is inborn nature with Mr Rajaram. Whether it is Valmiki Ramayana or Uttara Ramayana , they came by oral tradition. Let us first accept it. I found a satisfactory answer to my query about the legend where Lakshmana left Sita in the forest. In the answer, he stayed after crossing Ganga in a place and next day he traveled to Valmiki Ashram at that time in a forest, now Bitur near Kanpur. After Yugas, many other places are told as having Valmiki Ashramams. All are legends. On google search friends can read the many answers. Gopalakrishnan On Monday, 5 May 2025 at 09:30:25 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]> wrote: Dear allI found a response by Mr Gopalakrishnan, having no head or tail, or containing any sensible matter. I thought he has a little brain to understand but being always foolish ,he writes only as an aviveki; orelse he would have understood how he shall write even if there are contradictions; not so authoritatively without reading the text and system of life described in the epics. One who cannot distinguish between a Legend and ITIOHASa and PURANA (having not read anything but posing as if knew a lot and doing only just copy and paste, may not know what he was writing. Before attending Ramayanam , let me drive the nail into his head. Today at Dallas (many USA places) my friend is living on the opposite side, 12 homes in a straight line away, which if we walk across the homes gaps will take just 5 minutes to reach; but it is illegal in USA; so had to take the road all around which a car takes 10 minutes and by walk may be 45 minutes. Samje? Thus, a day travel differs on so many factors between eras which he himself would know who lives in an area which were barren once and now active and walking across , could have been lost. 2 A horse arabic-like robust can travel at 25 miles per hour (not today's horses home trained) and in a day can do 100 to 150 miles so easily. Though uttara kanda is named as that of Valmiki as Lava kusa sang the whole verses, still Valmiki said he is finishing the Ramayana at the last chap of Yudha kanda, the 131st chap he is done with. A chariot is made up of a minimum 4 horses and not english carriages. A chariot can do the whole day and night with rest rarely. And can run >250 miles white horse power. Even assuming uttara kanda is by valmiki, from that kanda facts gatherers are as under which had he read a learned, would have got it so easily. And his doubtful Thomas woke up only because of his seetha temple at Wayanad. And without app[lication of the mind wrote nonsense. Now facts: Back in Ayodhya, Rama decided to perform an Ashwamedha yagna.The meandering horse reached Valmiki’s ashrama on the banks of River Ganga,while he was attending Rama’s Ashwamedha ceremony. Kusha and Lava defeated manystalwarts like Bharata’s son Pushkala, Seeta’s brother Lakshmi Nidhi,Shatrughna, Hanuman, and Sugriva. The humbled warriors returned to the site ofthe yagna with the horse. When Rama heard about the astonishing events atValmiki’s ashrama, he went to meet the sage. Valmiki disclosed that thetalented twins are his sons, and wanted Rama to accept Seeta and his 2 sons.. Ramarequested Lakshmana to get Seeta and his 2 sons. Even though Lakshmana statedthat Rama now longs for her company, Seeta refused to join him but sent herreluctant sons. Rama was heartbroken to hear about Seeta’s decision but resentLakshmana. Meanwhile, Valmiki told Kusha and Lava to sing all the shlokam theyhave memorized from the 6 books of his composition of Ramayana. On hearing it,Rama, like many others, shed tears of joy. Rama embraced them firmly to hisbody. Meanwhile, Seeta agreed to meet Rama. At the yagna location, in the presenceof other illustrious sages, Valmiki declared that from the powers of histapasya (austerities) of thousands of years, he can say with confidence thatSeeta is pati-vrata (chaste). Rama admitted he knows that but the publicscandal forced him to take that decision. Seeta prayed to Bhoomidevi (GoddessEarth) to receive her if she is pure. An extravagant throne emerged from theground and Seeta willinglydescended into Mother Earth’s lap. This is believed to be at the present-daySeeta samahit-sthal between Varanasi and Prayagraj in Uttar Pradesh state.There was a continued shower of flowers from the sky. Rishi Valmiki’s other ashrama-s were in present-day: Lahore Ram Tirith near Amritsar in Punjab state Dhamtan (Dharmasthan) near Narwana in Haryana state Seetamata Wildlife Sanctuary in Rajasthan state Near Koteshwar Mahadev temple in Ambaji in Gujarat state Chitrakoota in Madhya Pradesh state Bithoor on the banksof River Ganga in Uttar Pradesh state. The Ashram of Valmiki was in Brahmvarta, which is located in Bithoor. It is believed that Sita spent timeat the Valmiki Ashram after being exiled by Lord Ram. Bithoor is believed to bethe birthplace of the sons of Lord Rama, Luv and Kush. Baleni village on the banks of River Hindon near Meerutcity in Uttar Pradesh state Valmiki Nagar on the Bihar state bord[remainder of message body omitted; too large] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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