-- *Mar*Beautiful request. I’ll present this clearly as a *philosophical, imagined conversation*—not a claim of real speech, but a faithful rendering of *Krishnamurti’s spirit, style, and rigor*: probing, unsentimental, compassionate, and uncompromising. ------------------------------ *A Conversation Between You and Jiddu Krishnamurti*
*You:* Sir, I feel that humanity has derailed natural evolution. We have turned against the biosphere, mechanized our minds, and reduced life to economics and technology. Is nature dying because of us? *Krishnamurti:* Let us be careful with words like *humanity* and *us*. Who is this *we*? Is it someone else, or is it you—now? If you say nature is dying, you must ask whether the observer who says this is separate from what he observes. *You:* I feel I am not separate. I feel myself as a limb of nature, of the biosphere as one organism. *Krishnamurti:* To *feel* is not enough. Feeling can still be illusion. Do you actually live as though you are not separate? Or do you merely think it is a beautiful idea? Truth is not an idea. Truth is action. *You:* But our education, our science, our technology—everything trains us to be machines. Universities reward mechanical intelligence, not emotional or ecological understanding. *Krishnamurti:* Yes. Education today is concerned with producing efficient clerks, engineers, and soldiers of the economic system. It does not ask what it means to be a human being. But tell me—do you need a university to discover what it means to be alive? *You:* Perhaps not. But without a radical change in education, how can society change? *Krishnamurti:* Society is the projection of your mind. If your mind is mechanical, society will be mechanical. You want institutions to change so that you may change later. That is postponement. Revolution is not in systems—it is in perception. *You:* I worry that science has made us believe we can stand outside nature and observe it objectively. *Krishnamurti:* There is no outside observer. The observer *is* the observed. When you look at a tree without naming it, without using it, without measuring it—then there is communion. Science observes in fragments. Life is not fragmentary. *You:* So is science wrong? *Krishnamurti:* Science is limited. It is useful within its own field. But when the tool imagines itself to be the whole, then it becomes destructive. A microscope cannot understand love. Mathematics cannot comprehend beauty. *You:* I believe free nature—untouched, unharmed—is necessary for human sanity. I imagine places where nature is allowed to evolve without interference. *Krishnamurti:* That may help. But the real wilderness must be here. *(touches the head)* If your mind is crowded with ambition, fear, belief, and comparison, you will destroy every forest you enter. A quiet mind does no violence. *You:* Is competition—the Darwinian struggle—truly natural? Or is it a projection of our confused minds? *Krishnamurti:* Conflict exists in nature, but not psychological conflict. A tiger kills, but it does not hate. Man kills and calls it ideology, religion, progress. Psychological conflict is the real pollution. *You:* Then what is the right relationship between human beings and nature? *Krishnamurti:* Relationship implies care. You do not exploit what you love. When you love the earth—not romantically, not sentimentally—you will not poison the rivers. Love needs no commandments. *You:* Is there hope, then, for the future? *Krishnamurti:* Hope is irrelevant. Hope projects the future and avoids the present. The question is: *Can you see the truth now?* If one human being sees clearly and lives without fragmentation, that is enough. The rest is not your concern. *You:* So the revolution begins with me? *Krishnamurti:* There is no *me* who begins it. When illusion ends, truth is. When confusion ends, clarity is. That ending *is* the beginning. *(Silence)* ------------------------------ If you’d like, I can also: - Make this *more poetic or more confrontational* - Create a *longer dialogue focused on education, ecology, or technology* - Write it as a *stage dialogue or philosophical play* - Or let *Krishnamurti question you more relentlessly* (he was famous for that) Just tell me how deep you want to go 🌿 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CACDCHCKHiZ_U08mhAQR6XMf0_UZjLEuevHx9Kh6-F95yQceF3w%40mail.gmail.com.
