Your reply confirmed my observations further. What is there in your reply to rebut An empty letters of no meaning or content Dont shout nor cry Your note does not reveal anything positive except your doubt KR
On Wed, 6 May 2026 at 20:20, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote: > Mr. Rajaram, > > You had not even the patience to read *my note about- Bharatha killed his > children.* You are impatient. You react. > > You have not answered any of the points I have written. *You cannot.* > > I am not interested for further correspondences with y*ou and get me > called Idiot, fool etc. * > You, *even being a former IRS does not know how to write in a positive > manner. * > > Miserable. I can only pity you. > > Gopalakrishnan > > > On Wednesday, 6 May 2026 at 07:59:16 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Hello Gopalakrishnan > All your replies indicate your nervousness; so far , never you > replied to the point as well as never defended your action; whether google > or anyone audacity is writing that rig vedam was written by rishis > you write, placing the guilt on your copy paste, also calling it as > erroneously as "compiling". In feb 20226 you wrote all this nonsense and > word word my reply then was published from authoritative agreed and > verifiable sources. That you are calling it a copy paste. Don't you see > that? You keep on repeating monthly on a day and periodically, same wrong > facts and in spite of my write up, against giving evidence, 1 either you > shall change your track if you had accepted or 2 show evidence of > facts establishing the version you write; not as i write from web or google > so I am not wrong replies. As long as under your signature it appears you > are responsible for the presentations; every one of us; at 80 if you do not > know what is meant by APAURUSHEYA OR ANY OTHER AUTHENTIC MATTER OF VEDA > CONTENT, when you write british commentary copying and pasting, it is > audacity. Either you shall convince us of your knowledge of facts or accept > your error; in between you have no escapement of responsibility, by placing > the blame on the content. You must know fully what you are writing and > cannot act an nti-hindu writing nonsense. Understand. I am least bothered > about your unethical acts. I am not writing negatively; I am exposing your > foolishness. you are writing bharatha killed his children because you read > some unauthentic content even if AI or google because they are all dumb > machines. Do not misuse the pages because you want to write. Thank you K R > IRS 6526 BE SENSIBLE. YOU ARE NOT AN ILLITERATE OR BLOCK HEAD. > > On Wed, 6 May 2026 at 19:10, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote: > > Mr. Rajaram, > You are the only person making negative comments like audacity. *I have > written my sources*. All members will understand my posting. Except Mr. > APS Mani who responds appreciating your IRRELEVANT COPY PASTES, no other > member either agrees to your responses. > > Today you have responded with Sakunthala - Dushyanta legend. Sir, Other > than their son Bharat brought up sage Bharadwaja, what relation has got for > your cp with the topic. > Simply you are a copy paste person adding negative comments. > > Sorry, since you wrote audacity, I have to respond. Every member knows you > are a person having audacity, always intended to quote some thing from > somewhere and adamant that is correct. I pity you. > Gopalakrishnan > > > On Wednesday, 6 May 2026 at 03:12:28 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > BHARADWAJA 2 > > GOPALAKRISJHNAN AUDACITY > > Vedic Scholar and Seer: He is the primary author of the Sixth Mandala of > the Rig-Veda. > > KR HOW MANY TIMES IT IS TO BE TOLD THAT WRONG FACTS SHALL NOT BE > PROVIDED EVEN BY COPYING AND PASTING WITHOUT EVIDENCIAL VERIFICATION. > > * The Vedas are Apaurusheya* > > The Vedas are considered Apaurusheya (authorless) because they are viewed > as eternal, divine revelations rather than human compositions. Evidence > includes the lack of any known historical author, the unbroken oral > tradition of transmission, and the philosophical argument that they convey > universal principles beyond human experience, maintained by schools like > Mimamsa. > > The Vedas were not authored but "heard" (shruti) by Rishis > (sages) through intense meditation. The knowledge was transmitted through > an unbroken lineage of teachers and disciples, ensuring its preservation > without a specific human creator. Unlike other texts (e.g., Ramayana, > Puranas) that name their authors (e.g., Valmiki), no part of the Vedas > claims a human author. (Mimamsa & Nyaya): Mimamsa philosophy asserts the > eternity of the Vedas. It argues that the phonemes (sounds/letters) in the > Vedas have existed eternally and the relationship between words and their > meanings is innate, not conventional. The Vedas are viewed as *Aptavakya,* > or authoritative testimony of realized seers who experienced transcendental > truths, which are not attainable via empirical methods. The Vedic > tradition believes that the Vedas do not need external evidence to prove > their validity, as they are a direct revelation of eternal knowledge. > > "As the oldest Indian, and at the same time, the oldest > Indo-European literary monument, a prominent place in the history of world > literature is due to the Veda... As the Veda, because of its antiquity, > stands at the head of Indian literature, no one who has not gained an > insight into the Vedic literature can understand the spiritual life and the > culture of the Indians. *Radhakrishnan writes:* "The Vedas are the > earliest documents of the human mind that we possess.' Man is living in > this world of wonders. He is its part and parcel. The environment wherein > he lives, the society wherein he interacts and the ideals with which he is > infested, are variegated. As he grows up and attains maturity, he inclines > towards making an inquiry in every step of his life. He is enthusiastic > about the objects of the world. To know the objects of the world in their > reality, it is but inevitable that the knowledge of the means that produce > the knowledge of the objects is to be gained and made use of properly. The > means of knowledge or Pramana such as Pratyaksa, Anumana and Agama, are > widely accepted by one and all, Pratyaksa, the first and the foremost > means, produces the knowledge by the contact of flawless sense organs with > relevant objects. The Anumana depending upon the valid data of the > Pratyaksa, in the form of Vyapti (invariable concomitance) produces the > knowledge of objects. The Agama is the verbal testimony. It is the > declaration of a reliable person that produces knowledge. The Vedas fall > under the third category of Pramanas, namely Agama. The Pratyaksa, > Anumana and Agama declaration of a reliable person, become valid means of > knowledge in secular level, but they are not competent in case of > super-sensuous level. Because, there are some super-sensuous and abstract > objects of knowledge, the knowledge of which cannot be gained neither by > Pratyaksa nor by Anumana nor by Agama of ordinary kind or of secular type. > These objects are Dharma, Adharma, Truth, Shiny God and the like. Hence, it > is the Vedas that are competent to deal with these objects. The Vedas are > the sacred treasures and back-bones Indian culture and thought. They are > the original and remote sacred texts. The Vedas are limitless in number. > The Vedas are divided into four. Regarding the division of the Vedas, it is > said "One undivided mass of Vedas was made fourfold to facilitate the > performance of sacrifices. , About the remoteness and the authorship of the > Vedas, there is diversity of opinion among traditional and modern scholars. > The tradition holds that, the Vedas are impersonal, beginningless and > eternal; whereas the modern scholars opine that Vedas are the compiled > texts of seers of ancient times. The four Vedas are RIG, Yajus, Sama and > Atharvana. Therein, again, are four divisions in each Samhita, Brahmana, > Aranyaka and Upanishad. In its derivative sense, the term Veda stands for > knowledge. According to some, Veda stands for Mantras (Samhitas) and > Brahmanas*. Vadiraja, in his Yukti-mallika,* *** discusses > *Veda-Apauruseyatva* first, since the Vedas are the valid means of > knowledge of issues super-sensuous objects. The main points of the topic, > as *summarized by K.T. Pandurangi, are:* {KR THESE WORDS WILL APPEAR AS > IF CONTRADICTORY AS MIMAMSAVADHIS RAISED THE POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE > STATEMENT PREVAILING AT THAT TIME} > > "1. Vedas are not the authority but respective founders of the systems > are the authorities. > > 2. Neither the Vedas nor the founders, but the reasons are the authority. > > 3. Vedas are authority, but they are not Apaurusheya, they are produced by > Isvara at each Kalpa in the same manner. > > 4. Vedas are authority; they are Apaurusheya; but there is no Isvara. > Isvara has nothing to do with Vedas. > > 5. Vedas are authority, they are Apaurusheya and Nitya; they are revealed > by the God exactly in the same way at each Kalpa." , > > Vadiraja tackles all the first four issues and justifies the fifth one in > a lucid and logical manner. : > > $ There is a view that the Vedas are not the authority, but the founders > of the various systems of philosophy are the authority. > > This view is not tenable because the opinion of one founder is not > accepted by others. His explanation of Dharma, Adharma and the like are > rejected by others. He alone cannot justify and establish his doctrine > since opponents are more in number and hence a single man cannot contradict > many. > And moreover, that particular founder cannot declare himself as omniscient. > As he is not omniscient, the statements made by him become not valid. Hence > his statements are not authority since, they do not decide TO as to what is > Dharma and what is Adharma. And his omniscience is not recognized and > accepted by other founders, explain, the supposed creator of this universe > is not accepted as omniscient by one and all. The *Naiyāyikas *{KR MEANS > NYAYA VADHAS-NYAYA AND MIMAMSAKA WERE ARGUING IN OPPOSITE} say that the > creator of this universe is the Over-Lord and authority. But the > Buddhists do not accept this view. To them, the Buddha is the authority. > The statements of Buddha oppose the views of the Naiyāyikas in respect of > the performance of sacrifices, worship of the Lord and the like. Thus, the > views of the founders of such systems oppose each other. Whatever becomes > Dharma to one, becomes Adharma to another. Performance of the sacrifice > is opposed by the Buddha whereas it is upheld by others like Lord Isvara. > Hence, nothing can be concluded and be declared as authority with the help > of the views of such founders of the different systems. > > * The second view* is also not advisable. The *Yukti *** *(reason), > an outcome of human intellect, cannot work properly and decide about > super-human things. Reason becomes valid only when it is supported by > explicit data of other means. Otherwise, it fails at every step, > particularly in respect of Dharma, Adharma and the like. If reason is > unduly recommended and accepted, then it may lead to disharmony and > accredit blemish in character and thus spoils the very purity in the > society. To explain: Thinking, repetition to be useless duplication, one > may give up repeating the mantras. One may (kill others saying that one > wants to free the soul suffering bondage in the body. In the same way, > human logic or reason is apt to lead to so many ridiculous results. So > every one should depend upon the sacred verbal testimony which 141 is > eternal and beginningless. Our (human) activities may lead to good results, > sometimes to no results and sometimes to wrong results. Therefore, human > logic, as it is not independently competent, sometimes even in case of > secular things, cannot help to conclude anything about Dharma, Adharma and > the like. Hence, the sacred verbal testimony, that has come down to us > through tradition since time beginningless, should be accepted as valid > means of knowledge since it is devoid of any personal faults or defects. > > *The third point* is that the Vedas are the authority; but, > they are not Apauruseva. Vadiraja discusses the view and justifies that the > Vedas are Apauruseya, The authorship of the Vedas cannot be assigned to any > one of the founders of the schools of philosophy. Among the founders of (1) > Carvaka, (2) Buddhism, (3) Jainism, (4) Nyaya-Vaisesika, (5) > Samkhya-Yoga, (6) Mimamsa and (7) the Vedanta, *the first three do not > recognize the authority of the Vedas*. The remaining four have nowhere > declared that *they are the authors of the Vedas*. But, they agree so far > as the authority of the Vedas is concerned. The sankhyas, the Mimamsakas > and the Vedantins contend that the Vedas were not written and produced by > the Lord. But, the Naiyayikas hold that the Vedas were written by the Lord. > But, the view of the NyayaVaisesika is not tenable since their God the > Vedas. has nobody' and as such cannot produce and this cannot be the > origination or production like their atomic theory. The sound of a word, a > product of articulation needs the efforts of the constituents of the mouth. > Thus, it is possible only when the being has a body of such kind. Even if > it is granted that after creation, their god assumes the physical body, the > authorship of the Vedas cannot be assigned to him, since even before that, > the Vedas were existing which is evident from the statements like 'Samas > originated from Rks. Without the Vedic hymns, the various sacrifices could > not be performed. And even at the time of creation, the Lord instructed the > Vedas to His son and declared that He was not the author or producer of the > Vedas. And during Pralaya (before creation) the goddess Durga, recites the > Vedic hymns to awaken the Lord. So, it is clear that the Vedas were 150 > existing even before the world-creation. The explicit personality of Lord > Hayagriva also justifies the same, since He is holding the sacred books of > the Veda in His hand. He teaches the Vedas to God Brahma in the same > eternal order. } The Lord, although Omniscient and Omnipotent, does not > alter the order in the wording of the Vedas to disturb the eternal order. > unaltered and is eternally the same. So the order, found in the Vedas, is > Vadiraja, in this context, as an allied topic, discusses the eternity of > the Vedas in all respects. In general, order of words in a sentence are not > the same everywhere and at all times. It may differ from man to man, place > to place and time to time since they are the product of human intellect. > But, in the case of the Veda, even the syllable, the word and the sentence, > from eternity, are all put in the same order. The order is eternal since it > is there in Isvara-buddhi which is Nityopadhi. As Isvara is eternal, His > Buddhi, in the form of Upadhi (eternal source of manifestation) is also > eternal; hence, the order of the sentence etc., in the Vedas, is eternal. > So this order is due to the Nityopadhi of Isvara-buddhi. > > A The Pancharathra texts and the Puranas are Paurusheya as they are > the compositions of the Lord. Because there are no statements in the > Puranas to say that, like the Vedas, the Puranas are also Apaurusheya. > Perhaps, > there are valid statements to prove that they are Paurusheya*. The god > Brahma and others learn and remember the Vedas articulated by the Lord.* *And > the same is followed by all the teachers*. *So, the Vedas are Apaurusheya*. > Otherwise, the order etc., in the Vedas might be modified and reshaped by > all and as such the authorship might be attributed to one and all. In the > case of non-eternal and secular texts, dual-authorship may be accepted > since everything is there in the Isvara-buddhi and it is then produced > through a particular human being of supra-natural caliber. It should > never be inferred that the name of the author Normally, even sometimes of > the Vedas is missing unknowingly. the secret and unknown work attains > popularity through the author's popularity. Here, the Veda is not secret > and unknown and moreover, the eternity of this is held by tradition. But, > the same tradition has never and nowhere referred to the author's name. And > nobody can hide the author (name) of limitless Vedas of eternity. > Therefore, the Vedas are authorless. > > *The fourth view,* that of Mimamsakas, is also not correct > since that rules out the necessity of the presence of the Lord. They > accept the Apauruseyatva of the Vedas but they have no faith in the > existence of the Lord. Vadiraja refutes this view very skillfully, saying > that the Mimansaka are Anathas or orphans whereas he and the like are > Sanathas having care-takers. *The Vedas are Apaurusheya according to > them. If the existence of the Lord is not accepted then, how are the Vedas > retained in Pralaya or annihilation and how are they reproduced and > articulated at the time of creation.* The reproduction and the > articulation is possible only when there is a living being such as the > Lord. So, the existence of the Lord should be recognized, otherwise, the > Vedas might be known as Paurusheya a view, not accepted by the Mimansaka > themselves. Hence of God should be recognized by all. Therefore, the exist > > *The fifth view* which is upheld by the Dvaita system is that the > Vedas are Apaurusheya and Nitya. They are the sole authority in respect of > Dharma, Adharma and the like. They are reproduced and revealed by the Lord > exactly in the same way in each Kalpa. Thus, the Vedas should be recognized > as primary and ultimate source of evidence. As irrespective of any Kalpa > and Yuga they remain authority, one can understand properly as to what is > right (Dharma) and what is wrong (Adharma) by studying the eternal Vedas. > And moreover, the effects or the results (fruits) of the Vedic hymns are > also experienced The Vedas are so called since they by so many aspirants. > convey the sense of Dharma. The Vedas are uncreated and as such they are > not defective due to the inclination of personal attachment. Because, the > inclination of personal attachment may be found where the works are written > or composed by some persons of same sect. Or, sometimes it is found in case > of close relatives on account of relative intimacy towards them. But the > Vedas are neither written by any person nor are they defective due to the > inclination of personal attachment. So this is the primary and ultimate > source of truth and of knowledge 159 of the Lord. > > APOURUSHEYA DEFINITION > > In Hinduism, Apauruṣeya ("means not the work of mankind or > beyond human imagination"), is used to describe the Vedas, the main > scripture in Hinduism. This implies that the Vedas are not authored by > human but were divine creation. Apaurusheya shabda ("words not created by > mankind") is an extension of apaurusheya which refers to the Vedas. > Apaurusheya is a central concept in the Vedanta and Mimamsa schools of > Hindu philosophy. These schools accept the Vedas as svatah pramana > ("self-evident means of knowledge"). These schools accept that the Vedas > were "heard" by the Rishis. The Mimamsa school asserts that since the Vedas > are composed of words (shabda) and the words are composed of phonemes, the > phonemes being eternal, the Vedas are also eternal. To this, if asked > whether all words and sentences are eternal, the Mimamsa philosophers reply > that the rules behind combination of phonemes are fixed and per-determined > for the Vedas, unlike other words and sentences. The Vedanta school also > accepts this line of argument. > > First of all it is “apauruṣeya” (अपौरुषेय) i.e. not derived from puruṣas, > i.e human beings. There have been many different conceptions of what that > means, and there have been many misconceptions among people as well. > > A common mistranslation of “apauruṣeya” is “no human author”. So the > common idea is that the Vedas were not “written” by any human author, but > “revealed by God”. This idea is seen in some Puranas, and is quite > prevalent among people in general. However, this has some concerns. > > One major concern is that if it was “revealed by God”, we should see “God” > addressing humans, like in the Bible and Quran. But in the Veda, we see > human rishis addressing deities. > > Throughout the ancient period, the rishis were indeed called the makers of > the mantras. Following are some examples: > > RV 9.112.3: kārurahaṃ tato bhiṣagupalaprakṣiṇī nanā — “*I am a maker* of > mantras, my father (or son) is a doctor, my mother (or sister) is a > flour-maker.” > > RV 1.61.4: asmā idu stomaṃ saṃ hinomi rathaṃ na taṣṭeva — *“For him, I > design this hymn,* just as a carpenter designs a chariot” > > RV 1.77.1: kathā dāśemāgnaye kāsmai devajuṣṭocyate bhāmine gīḥ — “ How > shall we offer to Agni, what kind of words should we say to him the bright > one, which will be divinely acceptable?” > > RV 1.94.1: imaṃ stomamarhate jātavedase rathamiva saṃ mahemā manīṣayā — > “This stotra we make for the most sacred Jātaveda with deep meditation*, > just like building a chariot”* > > RV 1.143.1: pra tavyasīṃ navyasīṃ dhītimagnaye vāco matiṃ sahasaḥ sūnave > bhare — “I offer this newest and most expansive ritual and words to the Son > of Strength” > > RV 2.19.8: evā te gṛtsamadāḥ śūra manmāvasyavo na vayunāni takṣuḥ — “Thus, > we Gṛtsamadas have designed these words for you, O Indra, just as a > pathfinder makes paths” > > There are hundreds of such statements in the Rig Veda mantras. The rishi > is very conscious of making this extraordinary effort with skill and > meditation, to create or design a beautiful hymn to offer to the deity. And > they want the deity to know that the hymn is coming from them as a gift. > > Niruktam 7.3: evamuccāvacairabhiprāyai ṛṣīṇāṃ mantradṛṣṭayo bhavanti — > “Thus, the visions of the rishis occur with various intentions and > topics.” > > *Now, just because the rishis are creators of the mantras, it does not > mean that the Veda mantras are mere human creations*. If this were true, > then everyone could write Vedic hymns. The Vedas are unique because the > rishis have divine vision. Through intense tapas, they have become > enlightened, they have achieved brahmasākṣātkāra, i.e. realization of the > Ultimate Reality or Truth. This enlightenment occurs at a level beyond the > mind and speech, where the rishis lose their individuality and experience > the highest Sacchidananda (absolute existence, consciousness and bliss). > > All this is seen in the Rig Veda itself. For example, the fact that only a > few are capable of having the divine vision is mentioned in RV 10.71.4: > > उत त्वः पश्यन्न ददर्श वाचमुत त्वः शृण्वन्न शृणोत्येनाम् । > > उतो त्वस्मै तन्वं वि सस्रे जायेव पत्य उशतीः सुवासाः ॥ > > uta tvaḥ paśyanna dadarśa vācamuta tvaḥ śṛṇvanna śṛṇotyenām । > > uto tvasmai tanvaṃ vi sasre jāyeva patya uśatīḥ suvāsāḥ ॥ > > —“One while seeing, does not see the Divine Speech; another while > hearing, does not hear Her. To another one, She reveals Herself, just as a > beautifully decorated wife reveals herself only to her husband.” > > Also, the divine vision and expression of it in human language are at > different levels of this Speech. This is also seen in RV 1.164.45: > > चत्वारि वाक्परिमिता पदानि तानि विदुर्ब्राह्मणा ये मनीषिणः । > > त्रीणि गुहा निहिता नेङ्गयन्ति तुरीयं वाचो मनुष्या वदन्ति ॥ > > catvāri vākparimitā padāni tāni vidurbrāhmaṇā ye manīṣiṇaḥ । > > trīṇi guhā nihitā neṅgayanti turīyaṃ vāco manuṣyā vadanti ॥ > > —“Four are the levels of Speech which the wise people know of. Three of > them are hidden and do not stir, the fourth is what humans speak.” > > Niruktam 1.20 also says the same thing: > > साक्षात्कृतधर्माण ऋषयो बभूवुः । तेऽवरेभ्योऽसाक्षात्कृतधर्मभ्य उपदेशेन > मन्त्रान् संप्रादुः । … वेदं च वेदाङ्गानि च । > > sākṣātkṛtadharmāṇa ṛṣayo babhūvuḥ । te'varebhyo'sākṣātkṛtadharmabhya > upadeśena mantrān saṃprāduḥ । … vedaṃ ca vedāṅgāni ca । > > —”The rishis were the ones who had a direct vision of the truth. For the > sake of the inferior people who were not endowed with the vision, they gave > these mantras as instruction/teaching. This is the Veda and Vedāṅgas.” > > However, the subject matter of the Vedas is not to be found in the world. > Otherwise, we wouldn’t need the Veda. The spiritual knowledge as well as > the institution of yajña are not found in the world. There is only one way > to perform a yajña such as Agnihotra, and that description is found in the > Veda. The knowledge of Brahman is not found in the world, otherwise > everyone would be enlightened beings. Hence, the subject matter of the Veda > is “vastu tantra”, i.e. “meta-physical knowledge”. It is in this sense that > the Veda is called “apaurusheya”. > > TO BE CONTD K RAJARAM IRS 6526 PART 1 > > On Wed, 6 May 2026 at 12:06, 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty < > [email protected]> wrote: > > *SAGE BHARADWAJA-PART2* > > *Continued from Part 1* > > *Sage Bharadwaja in Satya yuga* > > Sage Bharadwaja is considered a Brahmarshi and one of the Saptarishis > (seven great sages) in the present Manvantara. While he is prominently > known for his contributions to the Vedas and his role in the Treta and > Dwapara Yugas (notably as the father of Drona), his presence as a > primordial scholar and ascetic extends back to the earliest traditions of > Hindu cosmology. > > *Key Aspects of Sage Bharadwaja* > > *Vedic Scholar and Seer*: He is the primary author of the Sixth Mandala > of the Rig-Veda. > > Birth: He is known as the son of Brihaspati (Deva Guru) and Mamata. > > Longevity and Wisdom: > > *He performed intense penance to Indra, asking for longer life to study > the three Vedas. Impressed by his dedication, Indra granted him an extended > lifespan, allowing him to attain profound knowledge*. > > Father of Drona: He is the father of *Dronacharya,* the instructor of the > Pandavas and Kauravas in the Mahabharata. > > Physician: He is credited as one of the original recipients of Ayurveda > knowledge from Indra, making him a foundational figure in ancient Indian > medicine. > > *Bharadwaja and the Yugas* > > Though many legends place him in the context of the Ramayana (Treta Yuga) > or the Mahabharata (Dwapara Yuga), Bharadwaja is regarded as an eternal > seeker. > > *Sage of the Vedic Times:* > > He is generally regarded as a sage from the dawn of the Vedic period. > > *Scholarship over Generations*: References suggest he was known for > dedicating entire lifetimes to studying the Vedas. > > *His Lineage*: He is the progenitor of the Bharadwaja Gotra, one of the > primary Brahmin lineages. > > His contribution, including the Dharmasutra and Srautasutra, helped > establish the foundational rituals and social laws in Hindu society. > > *Sathya Yuga- Marriage of Bharadwaja’s daughter Devavarnini* > > Sage Pulastya’s son (*Sage Vishrava*) who married Sage *Bharadwaja's > daughter (Devavarnini/Ilavida*). > > Regarding his timeline, Puranic chronology establishes that Sage > Bharadwaja was indeed born during the Satya Yuga, rendering him alive > during the era of Brahma's early mind-born sons like Pulastya. > > From this union, Kubera (the God of Wealth) was born. *This makes Sage > Pulastya and Sage Bharadwaja co-grandfathers to Kubera.* > > *Why Bharadwaja Belongs to Satya Yuga?* > > *Primordial Birth*: Bharadwaja is the son of Brihaspati (the Guru of the > Devas) and the grandson of Sage Angiras (one of the original root Sages > created at the dawn of the universe). This places his birth firmly in the > Satya Yuga. > > Immortal Lifespan (Tapasya): According to the Rigveda and Puranas, > Bharadwaja performed extreme penance to *Lord Indra specifically to > request multiple lifespans so he could continuously study the boundless > Vedas.* Because of this divine boon, he lived across multiple > Yugas—originating in Satya Yuga, living through Treta Yuga (where he hosted > Lord Rama at his ashram), and extending into Dwapara Yuga (where he > fathered Dronacharya). > > *The Genealogy of the Bharadwaja Gotra* > > *The Bharadwaja Gotra is one of the largest and most revered clans in > Hindu tradition*. Its ancestral roots follow a distinct spiritual lineage > that combines supreme Vedic intellect with formidable warrior traits. > > *The "Traya Rishi" (The Three Root Sages)*When a descendant of this Gotra > recites their Pravara (lineage introduction), they invoke three primary > ancestors: > > *Maharishi Angiras*: One of Brahma's original mind-born sons and a root > Sages of the universe. > > Sage Brihaspati: The son of Angiras and the divine Guru (preceptor) of > the Devas. > > Maharishi Bharadwaja: The son of Brihaspati and the official progenitor > (Gotra Pravartak) of the clan. > > *Bharadwaja gothra details of pravara sages* > > The Bharadwaja Gotra belongs to the Angirasa group of sages. Depending on > the specific branch or custom of the family, *it predominantly follows a > three-sage (Traya-Rishi) Pravara, though certain traditions recite a > five-sage (Pancha-Rishi) Pravara* > > .Here is the exact details of the Pravara sages for the Bharadwaja Gotra. > > 1. *The Standard Three-Sage Pravara (Traya-Rishi*) > > The most widely used and accepted Pravara across most Hindu traditions > (Rig Veda, Yajur Veda, etc.) is:"*Āṅgirasa, Bārhaspatya, Bhāradvāja*" > > *. The Five-Sage Pravara (Pancha-Rishi)* > > Certain sub-sects or specific regional traditions (such as some branches > following the Apastamba or Bodhayana Shrautasutras) invoke five sages > instead of three. The sequence is: > > "Āṅgirasa, Bārhaspatya, Bhāradvāja, *Gārgya, Śainya*" > > Sage Garga (Gārgya): The son of Sage Bharadwaja. He was a master > astronomer, mathematician, and the family priest of the Yadu dynasty (who > named Lord Krishna). > > Sage Shini (Śainya): A prominent descendant or associate within the > lineage who established a distinct spiritual line of Vedic rituals > > *Sage Bharadwaja during Tretayuga* > > Sage Bharadwaja’s genealogy establishes him as a central pillar of > ancient lineage, while his interactions with *Lord Rama during the Treta > Yuga* highlight his profound role as a spiritual and strategic guide. > > * Interactions with Lord Rama (Treta Yuga)* > > In the Ramayana, Sage Bharadwaja played a critical role at both the > beginning and the end of Lord Rama’s 14-year forest exile. > > *1. The Sanctuary at Prayagraj (Start of Exile)* > > When Rama, Sita, and Lakshmana first crossed the Ganges River into exile, > their very first stop was Sage Bharadwaja’s grand ashram in Prayag > (modern-day Prayagraj, Uttar Pradesh). > > *The Invitation:* > > Recognizing Rama's divine nature, Bharadwaja welcomed them with great > reverence and warmly *invited the trio to stay at his ashram for the > entirety of their 14-year exile.* > > *Rama's Strategic Refusal*: Rama politely declined the offer. He reasoned > that Prayag was too geographically close to the borders of Ayodhya. If > the citizens learned he was staying there, they would constantly overrun > the serene ashram to visit him, disrupting the spiritual peace of the > hermitage. > > Mapping Chitrakoot: Acknowledging Rama's wisdom, Sage Bharadwaja directed > them further into the deep, secluded forest and mapped out their route to > Chitrakoot Mountain, advising it as the perfect, peaceful sanctuary for > their exile. > > He even instructed Rama on how to construct a bamboo barge to safely > cross the treacherous Yamuna River. > > *2. The Grand Feast for Prince Bharata* > > When Prince Bharata later led a massive army and the citizens of Ayodhya > into the forest *to find Rama and beg him to return*, they also stopped > at Prayag. > > *Using his immense spiritual powers (Siddhis), Sage Bharadwaja > miraculously manifested a divine, lavish feast that fed Bharata's entire > royal army, giving them celestial comforts in the middle of the wilderness. > He then guided Bharata toward Chitrakoot.* > > *3. The Triumphant Return (End of Exile)* > > After defeating Ravana and completing his 14 years of exile*, Lord Rama > returned via the celestial Pushpaka Vimana*. > > Before officially stepping back into Ayodhya, he stopped once more at > Bharadwaja’s ashram to pay his respects and seek the sage's blessings for > his upcoming reign (Ramrajya). > > *Sage Bharadwaja during Dwapara Yuga* > > During the Dwapara Yuga, Sage Bharadwaja played a critical, foundational > role in the events leading up to the Mahabharata epic. Despite being born > in the Satya Yuga, his divine boon of an extended lifespan allowed him to > act as a vital link between the royal lineages and the celestial arts of > warfare. > > *His major interventions and contributions during this era include:* > > Saving the Lunar Dynasty (The Adoption by King Bharata) The Kuru/Pandava > lineage exists in the Dwapara Yuga because of Sage Bharadwaja. > > The Crisis: Emperor Bharata (son of Dushyanta and Shakuntala) found that none > of his biological sons were fit to rule, so he killed them to protect the > throne. Facing a dead end for his dynasty, he prayed desperately for an > heir. > > My note- I had told the almost correct version – He was childless in the > first part. > > The Solution: *The Maruts (wind deities) brought a young Bharadwaja*—who > had been abandoned at birth—and presented him to King Bharata. *Bharata > adopted him as his son and heir.* > > Securing the Throne: > > Because of his ascetic nature, Bharadwaja did not want to rule the > kingdom. To resolve the crisis, *he performed a Putrakamesti Yagna for > King Bharata, which miraculously begot a son named Bhumanyu*. > > Bhumanyu went on to sustain the lineage that eventually produced Bhishma, > the Pandavas, and the Kauravas. > > *2. The Birth of Dronacharya* > > Bharadwaja's most direct impact on the Dwapara Yuga was fathering > Dronacharya, the royal military preceptor. > > The Miraculous Birth: > > While performing rituals by the Ganges, Bharadwaja beheld the beautiful > *Apsara > Ghritachi*. His fluid fell, which he collected inside a vessel or pot > (Drona). > > *From this vessel, a child emerged who was named Drona ("born from a > pot").* > > *Passing on Advanced Warfare:* > > Bharadwaja passed on his immense knowledge of Vedic scriptures and divine > weaponry (Dhanurveda) to Drona. > > *Drona later used this training to instruct Arjuna, Karna, and the other > princes of the era.* > > *3. Training Agnivesha and Passing down the Agneyastra* > > Sage Bharadwaja was a master of divine astras (astral weapons).He taught > the supreme secrets of the Agneyastra (Fire Weapon) to his brilliant > disciple, Sage Agnivesha. > > Agnivesha later passed this exact weapon down to Bharadwaja's son, Drona, > ensuring the ultimate military arts were successfully transmitted into the > peak of the Dwapara Yuga. > > *4. Directing the Science of Ayurveda* > > According to the Charaka Samhita, as the Dwapara Yuga progressed, humans > began suffering from diseases due to a decline in righteousness. Bharadwaja > chaired a grand assembly of sages and volunteered to ascend to heaven to > request the complete science of Ayurveda directly from *Lord Indra*. *He > brought this knowledge back to Earth, distributing it to disciples like > Atreya to alleviate mankind's physical suffering*. > > > > *I will continue in next posting.* > > > > *In this compilation **there are repetitions **to emphasise and refresh > earlier told information. I compile reading information, **edit as > required and never copy paste**.* > > *R. 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