Gopala wrote The Brahmin who played a critical role in the defence of King Parikshit was Sage Kashyapa (not to be confused with the ancient creator sage of the same name). Now defends K Rajaram IRS 22526
On Fri, 22 May, 2026, 20:42 gopala krishnan, <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear friends, > > I am regretted to write once again about the folly, after reading the > final note by Mr. Rajaram, who is a former IRS officer, reproduced > below:- > > "AND TELLING SOME FALSITY UNCHECKED AND CONNECTING KASHYAPA AND SHUKHA IS > AWONDER > I HAPPENNED TO READ" > > I have very clearly written in my compilation the Brahmin Kashyapa is > different from sage Kashyapa. This Brahmin was famous to remove any snake > bike venom by mantras. He was arranged by Prince Jnanamejaya to remove the > venom and bring back to life his father -Parikshith. (If snake king > Thakshaka bite his father ). > > The Brahmin's desire for wealth was met by snake king Thakshaka. He went > off ,after getting wealth. This legend is told in Mahabharata. > > I have never told in my compilation anywhere Sukha and Kashyapa have > relation. > > Mr. Rajaram never reads fully. Since the legend is important I have added > it in a posting about sage Sukha. > > How much I can tolerate the foolish comments of Mr. Rajaram? Members may > read the above produced lines of Mr. Rajaram and make out his mistakes in > his English writing. Once again I pity how he was selected as IRS. > He used to write in groups I was only a supervisor in Telecom department > and not ITS. Is he not ashamed of his English proficiency. I have > highlighted the mistakes made by him in a single line in English. > > I am forced to respond > R. Gopala krishnan,( former ITS) > > > On Friday, 22 May 2026 at 07:42:14 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Sukha 6 > > Sage Kashyapa (krta yuga) and Sukha Maharshi (also spelled Shuka or Suka) > are two of the most revered sages in Hindu mythology, often studied > together as a lineage of realized spiritual masters and creators of sacred > texts. > > 1. Sage Kashyapa: The Grandsire of Creation > > Role: One of the Saptarishi (the seven ancient sages) and the mind-born > son of Lord Brahma. > > The Progenitor: He is known as the "father of all humanity" and all living > beings. Kashyapa, fathered the Devas, Asuras, Nagas (serpents), and various > creatures through his multiple wives. > > Contributions: He is the author of the Kashyapa Samhita, which remains a > foundational classical reference book for Ayurvedic pediatrics, gynecology, > and obstetrics. > > 2. Sukha (Shuka) Maharshi: Dwapara end and kali yuga beginning) The Divine > Storyteller > > Role: The enlightened son and foremost disciple of the great Sage Veda > Vyasa. > > Birth: Unlike a standard birth, Sukha was miraculously born from a fire > drill (Arani) after his father was captivated by a celestial maiden who > transformed into a parrot. Hence, his name literally translates to "parrot" > in Sanskrit. Shuka, was an enlightened ascetic who chose a life of pure > celibacy and wandering. > > Major Work: He is best known as the primary narrator of the Bhagavata > Purana, reciting the text to King Parikshit over a seven-day period before > the king's death. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > II *SAGE KASHYAPA—THE GREAT GRANDSIRE * > > Sage Kashyapa [or Kashyapa Rishi] is a revered name in the Hindu > tradition. He is accredited with the unique distinction of being the father > of the king of gods, the king of demons, the king of birds and the king of > snakes. He is also held to be the father of the first human incarnation of > Lord Vishnu. Being the ‘king’ and ‘father’ of such a hallowed stature, he > is rightly called ‘grandsire’ in the Hindu mythology. > > When language fails to convey a concept adequately, one then > takes help of stories and allegories to express it. When there is no > religious colour to these expressions, they are known as fairy tales and > folk tales. > > According to the Puranas, God alone existed in His formless aspect > before Creation. When creation began, the Lord appeared as reclining on the > snake *ashesh *(lit. ‘That which has no end’), and from his navel came up > the divine lotus on which sat Brahma, the first born of the Lord. Becoming > conscious of his presence, Brahma meditated on the reason for his > existence, and when he realised that he was supposed to create the > universe, he got into the act through meditation. Soon the first four > sages: Sanaka, Sanandana, Sanatana, Sanatkumara were born of his mind. > Being born of the *sattva guna *of Brahma (since he was doing intense > *tapasya*), these four were also full of *sattva,* and hence they > dedicated themselves completely to the devotion of God, instead of getting > entangled in the world. > > Upset at the failure of his efforts in populating the world, > Brahma then created from his mind the great sages, Marichi, Angira, Atri, > Pulastya, Pulaha, Kratu, and some others. According to some Puranas, > Kashyapa was also one of these *manas-putra *(‘son born of mind’) of > Brahma, and according to some others, Kashyapa was the son of Marichi. It > is also possible that being the youngest of these sages, Kashyapa was > treated as son by Marichi. Kashyapa performed his duty of populating the > world so well, and was such a great sage that he is considered to be the > originator of one of the first four *gotras*: *kashyapa*, *angirasa*, > *bhrigu*, and *vasishtha*. A *gotra *is the lineage to which a Hindu > associates himself through birth. In most cases, a child is assigned the > *gotra *of his father, but he may also take up a different *gotra,* or a > combination of *gotras.* Although there were only four *gotras *originally, > its number increased over time, and presently there are more than fifty of > them. > > At the time of creating Marichi and others, Brahma had also created a > class of beings called Prajapatis (lit. ‘forefathers’), who were supposed > to complete the job of creation. But, they were all so noble and withdrawn > by nature that they could hardly populate the world. Brahma then split > himself into a man and a woman, Manu and Shatarupa to hasten the process of > creation. Their children be-longed to the human dynasty. Shatarupa, gave > birth to many daughters, who were married off to the sages and Prajapatis. > > One of these Prajapatis was Daksha, who had many daughters. > Kashyapa married thirteen of these daughters, from whom were born the > various kinds of creatures that abound the earth. To name a few: Aditi gave > birth to the twelve *Adityas *(gods), Diti gave birth to *Daityas* (the > dynasty that produced Hiranyakashipu, Prahlada, Bali and others), Danu gave > birth to *Danavas *(more ferocious demons), Surabhi was the mother of > cows and buffaloes, Sarama gave birth to dogs, Kadru to snakes, Vinata to > Garuda (king of birds), Ila to trees and creepers, Muni to *apsaras, *and > so on. > > It is worth noting that some religions believe in spontaneous > creation, according to which God created each species spontaneously. But in > Hinduism, creation is evolutionary in nature, and human beings are a close > relation to every other being of the universe. More interesting is the case > of sworn enemies —gods and demons—who were not only step brothers, but > whose maternal grandparents were also the same. > > Kashyapa’s most important children, the gods and the demons, were > constantly at war to gain Lordship of the universe. The stories of their > intrigues, treacheries, fights and deadly wars are spread over the Vedas, > some Upanishads and the Puranas. The gods were nobler by nature compared to > the *Asuras* (the collective class of the not-so-noble). Acharya > > Shankara explains in his commentary on *Chandogya Upanishad *that > the gods lived by the higher power of their *prana *(the vital breath), > whereas the *Asuras *lived by *asu *(the brute power of the senses). Seen > in this light, the battles between the gods and the demons represent the > war going on inside every human being between his higher and lower nature. > > Unconcerned with all the fights going all around him between his > children, Sage Kashyapa remained fully dedicated to his *sadhana*. His > daily routine of fire sacrifices and meditations, and also the observances > connected with special occasions, continued without the least compromise on > his part. He had inherited a super-*sattvic *nature by birth, and through > his *sadhana* he attained great yogic powers, devotion to the Lord, and > also the supreme knowledge of Brahman. The great sage, however, stayed > aloof from the affairs of his children. So much so that his beloved wife > Aditi once asked for a favour telling him, ‘ . . . because you are great, > you are same toward the gods and the demons, who are born either from your > body or from your mind and who possess *sattva*, *rajas* or *tamas*. But > although God, the Lord is equal toward all living beings, He does favour > His devotees.’ > > Kashyapa Muni was a great devotee of Lord Vishnu. But it was his ill > fortune that two of his sons were killed by the Lord, and one of his > descendants, King Bali, had to lose everything when the Lord incarnated as > his own son. > > Diti had given birth to two great *daityas*, Hiranyaksha and > Hiranyakashipu. They were very powerful, but because they had been > conceived at the wrong hour of the day, they were vicious and anti-God. To > make the world a safe place, Lord Vishnu had to incarnate as *Varaha *(the > big boar), and *Narasimha* (man-lion) to destroy these two sons of > Kashyapa. Both these incarnations of the Lord were direct, without the > intervening medium of any womb. > > Intrigues followed intrigues in the minds of the sisters—Diti and > Aditi—whom karma had made co-wives. Ultimately it was the turn of Aditi to > take revenge on the sons of Diti. The gods had been badly beaten by the *asura > *led by King Bali*, *who was the Lord and master of the whole universe, > including the heavens. The gods were in hiding somewhere, which made Aditi > very sad, and she requested her Kashyapa Muni to do something about it. > > Sage Kashyapa smiled and said, ‘Alas, how powerful is the maya of > Lord Vishnu, by which the entire world is bound by affection for children! > What is this material body, made of five elements? It is all non-self. > Indeed, the soul is completely different from the material elements from > which the body is made. But because of bodily attachment, one is regarded > as a husband or son. These illusory relationships are caused by > misunderstanding.’ But when he saw that Aditi was not satisfied with the > true analysis of existence, Kashyapa advised her to worship the Lord > through the austerity called *Payovrata*—meant to be an effective means > for getting a powerful son. > > He thus showed that those who are not capable of letting go the vanities > of the world through *Jnana,* may practise Bhakti to satisfy the whims of > their minds. But even in that case, one must stick only to praying to the > Lord, so that one stays put on the road to Reality. > > As advised by Kashyapa, Aditi performed the *Payovrata. *The Lord, > already pleased with Kashyapa’s*tapasya*, was now pleased with Aditi > also, and agreed to be born as her son. Finally a day arrived, when > Kashyapa had the great fortune of becoming the father of the Lord Himself, > when Vamana, the dwarf Brahmin was born to Aditi. That was Lord Vishnu’s > first human incarnation. Upon seeing the Lord as the new born baby, > Kashyapa exclaimed, ‘Jaya! Jaya!’ in great happiness and wonder. All his > struggle, hardships and sadhana had now borne fruit. After having populated > the world, he was now the proud father of the Lord Himself, who had put > Kashyapa on the job of Creation. > > The Puranas do not talk of Kashyapa’s end. Probably he continues to be > there to save his descendants from annihilation. There is a story of how he > once saved his offspring, Garuda, from hunger and consequently from the > curse of the tiny sages called Valkhalya. > > *Unlike many other ancient sages, Kashyapa never wielded a weapon, nor did > he exhibit his yogic powers. He was a sage who had grown humble by > completing the difficult task of Creation given to him by Brahma, the > Creator.* Sage Kashyapa’s life was centred on performing the prescribed > duty, and bringing perfection to his acts through the practise of constant > tapasya, without wasting a moment. Such an example is surely a source of > inspiration for all those who are struggling to find out meaning in life. > > - Kr AND TELLING SOME FALSITY UNCHECKED AND CONNECTING KASHYAPA AND > SHUKHA IS AWONDER I HAPPENNED TO READ > > K Rajaram IRS 22526 > > On Fri, 22 May 2026 at 12:17, 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty < > [email protected]> wrote: > > *SAGE SUKHA PART 3* > > Continued from Part 2 > > *The curse on King Parikshit* > > The curse on King Parikshit—the grandson of Arjuna and the last great > emperor of the Mahabharata era—was cast by a *young sage name*d Shringi. It > doomed the king to die from the bite of a poisonous snake (Takshaka) > within exactly seven days. > > *The Culpable Act* > > While hunting in a forest,* an exhausted and thirsty King Parikshit* > entered the hermitage of the *meditating Sage Shamika.* > > Finding the sage in a deep trance and getting no response to his request > for water, the King—under the mounting influence of the newly arrived age > of Kali Yuga—felt deeply insulted. > > In a fit of rage, he used the tip of his bow to place a dead snake on the > sage’s shoulders and left. > > The Curse > > *Sage Shamika’s young son, Shringi, soon discovered the humiliation > inflicted upon his father*. Enraged by the King's disrespect, *the young > son furiously scooped up water and cursed Parikshit: “Within seven days, > the mighty serpent Takshaka will bite the offender and end his life”. * > > Although Sage Shamika later lamented his son's harsh and impulsive > reaction, a curse once spoken could not be undone. > > *The Aftermath & Liberation* > > Rather than fearing his impending doom, *Parikshit accepted his fate with > absolute grace and humility*. He abdicated the throne in favour of his > son, Janamejaya, and spent his final seven days on the *banks of the > Ganges.* > > *Discourse by sage Sukha* > > There, he sat under the spiritual guidance of the sage Sukadeva and > listened to the divine discourses. Their dialogue is compiled in the > ancient Hindu scripture, the *Shrimad Bhagavatam*. > > By the end of this profound storytelling, Parikshit attained spiritual > liberation, utterly fearless of the serpent's impending strike. > > The Final EventTrue to the curse, the serpent king Takshaka disguised > himself as an insect (or a Brahmin) and infiltrated Parikshit's heavily > guarded enclosure on the seventh day. The bite proved fatal, fulfilling the > prophecy but ensuring Parikshit's ultimate salvation > > *Key Themes and Structure of the Discourse* > > Sage Shuka answered Parikshit's question by reciting the Srimad > Bhagavatam, a massive text consisting of 12 Cantos (Skandhas) and roughly > 18,000 verses, which his father Sage Vyasa had taught him. > > The Nature of Time and Illusion: Shuka began by teaching Parikshit that > fear of death is an illusion born of identifying with the physical body. > > The Nine Forms of Devotion (Bhakti): > > He emphasized that hearing (Shravanam) and chanting (Kirtanam) the glories > of the Divine are the easiest and most potent ways to achieve liberation in > the age of Kali. > > The Incarnations of Vishnu: He detailed the cosmic cycles of creation and > the various avatars (incarnations) of Lord Vishnu, culminating in the deep, > ecstatic description of Lord Krishna's life and pastimes in the 10th Canto. > > The Chatushloki Bhagavatam: > > Shuka explained that the entire universe is an expansion of the supreme > reality, and realizing this truth dissolves all material bondage. > > The Grand Finale and Liberation > > Conquering Fear: By the seventh day, through the power of hearing Shuka's > words, King Parikshit's consciousness became completely detached from his > physical body. He no longer feared the snake-bite or death. > > Mahasamadhi: > > Before Takshaka arrived, Parikshit sat in a perfect yogic posture, fixed > his mind on the Supreme Brahman, and entered Mahasamadhi (conscious exit > from the body). > > *Prince Jnanamejaya tries to protect his father from snake Thakshaka’s > bite* > > A natural doubt arise that - If king Parikshith was ready for his samadhi, > why Guarding arrangements were done on the banks of Ganga? > > *The heavy guarding arrangements on the banks of the Ganges were not > ordered by King Parikshit himself, but rather by his ministers and his son, > Janamejaya*, who desperately wanted to protect their king. Parikshit had > already surrendered to his fate, but the royal administration refused to > give up without a fight. > > *The Logic Behind the Guards* > > *Duty of the State*: The royal ministers and the crown prince viewed the > curse as an external security threat to the empire. > > *Preventing Infiltration*: The guards were placed specifically to > intercept and filter visitors, as Takshaka was a master shape shifter who > could disguise himself. > > *Fortified Platform*: A special single-pillared platform (or a secure > mansion on a single pillar) was constructed over the water to make it > physically impossible for any crawling reptile to reach the King. > > Medical Shield: The ministers also hired elite physicians and poison > experts (toxicologists) to stand by with antidotes in case an attack > occurred. > > The Structural Irony: The elaborate security measures actually highlight > a central theme of the Mahabharata and the Bhagavatam: > > *The supremacy of destiny over human effort.* > > While the guards successfully blocked every obvious physical entry, they > could not stop a cosmic decree. Takshaka easily bypassed the entire > security perimeter by shape shifting into a tiny worm, hiding inside a > fruit that a Brahmin brought as an offering to the King. > > Most of us might have heard Thakshaka bribed a Guard Brahmin to enter. So > a Google search was made and details obtained and given below:- > > *Thakshaka bribes the Brahmin on Defence* > > The Brahmin who played a critical role in the defence of King Parikshit > was Sage Kashyapa (not to be confused with the ancient creator sage of > the same name). > > He was an elite, *exceptionally skilled physician, a master of anti-venom > mantras, and an expert in hidden toxicological sciences.* > > *The Brahmin's Part in the Guarding Strategy* > > As the seventh day of the curse approached, the royal ministers hired a > network of highly learned Brahmins and medical masters to surround the > King’s fortified, single-pillared platform. > > Kashyapa’s role was meant to be the ultimate line of defence. > > He possessed such unmatched yogic prowess and command over anti-venom > spells that he could literally reverse death. Hearing of the king's > impending doom, Kashyapa set out for the capital, confident that even if > Takshaka bit Parikshit, his specialized mantras could resurrect the monarch. > > > Crucially, his motivations were dual: he wanted to exercise his > professional duty, but he also explicitly sought to earn immense wealth > and rewards from a grateful royal family. > > The Encounter and the Demonstration of Power > > En route to the capital, *Takshaka—disguised as a common > traveller—intercepted Kashyapa and questioned his journey.* > > When Kashyapa boasted that his medical expertise could counter any snake > venom, Takshaka revealed his terrifying, serpentine majesty and challenged > him: "Behold the true power of my poison. If you can revive a target I > destroy, only then proceed". > > Takshaka bit a massive, flourishing banyan tree, and his *hyper-potent > venom reduced the entire tree to a heap of black ashes in a matter of > seconds*. > > Unphased, *Kashyapa chanted his sacred mantras and sprinkled holy water > over the pile. Step-by-step, the ashes reformed into a sprout, and within > moments, the entire banyan tree was completely resurrected to its original > green glory*. > > Why Takshaka Bribed Him and Sent Him Back > > Realizing that Kashyapa’s miraculous powers posed a literal threat to the > absolute finality of the curse, Takshaka had to neutralize him > immediately without physical combat. He did so by leveraging strategic > psychological manipulation: > > Exploiting Financial Motive: Takshaka asked Kashyapa honestly, *"Are you > going to the capital for the king's life, or for the immense wealth the > royal family will give you?"* > > Kashyapa truthfully admitted he was seeking the reward. > > Takshaka replied, "I will give you vastly more gold, gems, and treasure > than the kingdom ever could. Take it, and go back home". > > *Appealing to Cosmic Destiny*: > > Takshaka reminded the sage that King Parikshit's lifespan had naturally > run its course due to a holy Brahmin's decree. Trying to counter a cosmic > curse would be fighting against fate itself. > > *Checking the King's Lifespan*: Kashyapa used his internal divya-drishti > (divine vision) to check Parikshit's timeline . He realized that the > King's aura was indeed failing and that his time on earth was genuinely > over. > > Satisfied that he was not disrupting the laws of the universe, and > entirely satisfied by the staggering amount of wealth handed to him by the > serpent king, Kashyapa accepted the bribe and turned back, removing the > last medical roadblock in Takshaka’s way. > > My note- I do recollect decades back a small posting about the first > corruption by a Brahmin quoting the above by recently passed away member P.K > Ramakrishnan > > *First corruption by a Brahmin* > > I have heard it was the first bribe accepted by the Brahmin. Google result > is given below:- > > *You are entirely correct*. In traditional Puranic discourse and cultural > folklore, *this encounter between Takshaka and Sage Kashyapa is famously > cited as the very first bribe recorded in human history* (specifically, > for the current age of Kali Yuga).The symbolic weight of this first bribe > marks a massive turning point in Hindu cosmology for several reasons: > > The Degradation of the Brahmin Class > > In the preceding golden ages, Brahmins were defined by absolute austerity, > detachment from material wealth, and unwavering devotion to duty (Dharma). > Kashyapa > accepting a bribe to abandon a dying king signified that greed had > successfully corrupted the highest intellectual and spiritual class. It > showed that even the most highly evolved minds could now be bought with > gold. > > *The True Dawn of Kali Yuga* > > While King Parikshit's act of placing a dead snake on a sage was the *spark > that invited the dark age,* Kashyapa's bribe was the validation that Kali > Yuga had firmly taken root. The age of chaos thrives on the erosion of > morals, and nothing defines it better than prioritizing personal wealth > over ethical duty. > > Destiny Bypassing Merit > > The bribe proved that no matter how brilliant, skilled, or educated a > human being is, material temptation can render all their talent useless. > Kashyapa > had the power to save the king, but his greed ensured that destiny unfolded > exactly as decreed. > > *I will continue in next posting* > > *Compiled from Google search and posted by R. 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