Sorry Mr. Rajaram,
I am not an expert in Sanskrit. But Mr. Narayanaswamy was. He used to point
out all your mistakes in translations of Sanskrit verses. Now he is not active.
I recollect one thing - Mangalyam Thanthu thaanena MAMA Jeevitha hethusha-
You translated forgetting "mama", telling only sasthrikal will recite and not
by the bridge groom.
Your standard of translation of Sanskrit words is understood by this one
translation. You know the Tamil saying- "Orupana chottukku oru choru patham"
Gopalakrishnan
On Saturday, 30 May 2026 at 11:54:36 am IST, APS Mani <[email protected]>
wrote:
Here is another folly of yours.
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From: Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, May 30, 2026 at 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: The Creativity of Nature
To: gopala krishnan <[email protected]>, Chittanandam V R
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Gopalakrishan says "More than two decades I know you through the groups.Not a
single post has appeared of your Own.You are only a curator like this copy
paste article on creativity.However your. Curative nature is to be appreciated
RGK"; IF ANYONE UNDERSTAND HIS WRITING AND MINE MAY COMPARE AND CONTRAST; MAY
BE SO MUCH ERROR PRONED HIS WRITE UP IS ONLY BECAUSE HE WRITES IN HIS OWN THE
VEDIC SCRIPTURES AWAY FROM THEM? THAT IS ORIGINAL? THEN LET MY CREATIVITY
PSYCHOLOGICALLY AND MEDICALLY ASPECTED CANNOT BE MY OWN SINCE THEY ARE
RESEARCH PAPERS . I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHETHER HE DID NOT FIND MY OWN
COMMENTARY AND WRITE UP EXPOSING THE VEDAS WGHICH ALONE CAN BE THAT OF A
PERSON; I AM NOT SAYANA SIR AND I DO NOT ERR; i DO EXPLAIN WHICH YOU CANNOT
UNDERSTAND AT ALL GOPALKRISHNAN LEVEL IS PAR BELOW tHANK YOU NB PL DO NOT
WRITE YOUR OWN RISHYA SRINGER VIBANDA BRUGU ETC AS YOU LIKE IT PLEASE
On Sat, 30 May 2026 at 09:22, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote:
More than two decades I know you through the groups.Not a single post has
appeared of your Own.You are only a curator like this copy paste article on
creativity.However your. Curative nature is to be appreciated RGK
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On Sat, 30 May 2026 at 9:14, Rajaram Krishnamurthy<[email protected]>
wrote:
We are living in challenging times and urgently need newideas for systems and
solutions to overcome the current crisis – from climatechange to pandemics. It
is therefore not surprising that creativity is regardedas one of the most
important future skills. Creativity has many flavours —artistic or professional
— and each has its specifics. Regardless of the type,creativity involves the
active use of imagination and developing original ideasto create something new.
Fortunately creativity is the natural order of lifeand part of being human.
Everybody is creative, but some seem to be able toactivate their innate
creativity better than others.
How to tap into the universal stream of creativity? Recentresearch about the
science of creation confirms that time spent in nature canimprove innovative
and holistic thinking. “Nature is the great visible engineof creativity and
human creativity emerges out of that,” said scientist TeranceMcKenna. Nature
was once our home and this seems to be embedded in our being.Returning to
nature can feel like returning home. Our souls resonate with thenatural world
and are nourished by beautiful landscapes, serene forests andpeaceful mountain
treks.
To draw inspiration from nature, you need to be mindful.While taking a walk,
observe flowers that are blooming around you or flutteringwings of butterflies.
Quieting your mind surely improves your writing andcreative practice with
renewed clarity and calm. “You let the prefrontal cortexof the brain rest, and
all of a sudden these flashes of insight come to you,”explains neuroscientist
David Strayer. It supports creativity, positivewell-being, reductions in
stress. There are all kinds of reasons why it’shelpful to spend time in nature.
1 “We ‘go’ to nature to find ourselves”
John Muir, father of the US national parks, naturalist,author, environmental
philosopher, botanist and early advocate for thepreservation of the wildness of
the United States, would spend months on endalone in the wilderness in the
1800’s with only a small back pack. He sharedhis experiences through his
writing on wide ranging topics, but said that wordsdid not come close to
capturing his awe. To say that we go to nature would havebeen such a strange
thing to hear as achild: being brought up in the countryside we were immersed
in it; we weresimply part of it. It wasn’t until, after years in cities when I
felt the callto BE in wild nature that I could recognise that I had forgotten
my connectionand saw nature as something outside of me. I can relate to John
Muir’spredicament in how to describe being in nature, its a strange thing to
describesomething that we are intrinsically part of. I can describe my time in
connection‘in nature’ as being a state where I can let go of labels and
pretence, I letgo of my attachment to doing and land into my BE-ingness, so it
is a kind ofrecalibration: a gentle kind resetting of my Self.
2 Health
Sitting in a forest, watching the sea, walking in thehills you can feel the
goodness of clean sea air in your lungs. Being in natureis good for our
physical health. It calms our nervous system and brings us backto centre. After
time outside we return to our home/office/studio calmer,clearer and with the
possibility to access more creativity. Our bodies feelalive, tingling, awake
and ready to engage. We can be more present to our ownphysicality with a
sharper sense of our own creative potential and with fewermental blocks.
3 Re-assurance
“There is something infinitely healing in the repeatedrefrains of nature — the
assurance that dawn comes after night, and springafter the winter”. There is a
greatsense of letting go when we spend extended time in nature; there is an
easethat unfolds in our body heart and mind; a sense that we are held
withingreater rhythms, and that, no matter how battered or heart broken we feel
withthe state of the world or the state of our own life and dealings it is
somehowOK when we can hear and feel the waves lapping by the sea shore, the
branchesmoving in the breeze and witness the changing of the moon from day to
day andthe landscape from seasons to season. I lean in to my awareness of
theinterconnected patterns of micro and macro change and so, appreciate more,
thesubtleties of change within my own creative process.
4 Sacred
“For me the door to the woods is the door to the temple.” Timein nature allows
me to understand what ‘sacred’ means to me. When I felt a deepcalling to
connect with something greater, I had no way to understanding itwith my
rational mind. There was no sense to be made of it, but I couldunderstanding it
viscerally in my body and in my heart, in the deep relaxationand at the same
time aliveness in my senses.It’s where we can find peace and asense of
connection to our ancestors, to all those who have lived on the earthbefore us:
breathing the same air, drinking the same water, eating from thesame earth,
feeling the same sun on their skin. And I know all the way throughme that we
are all made of the same stuff; that any concept of sacred must, forme, honour
our connection to everything else.
5 Understanding
“Look deep into nature and then you will understandeverything better” Albert
Einstein
Time in nature teaches us to see with new eyes, to readthe world around us in
different ways, it teaches us that truly understandinganything takes time.
Developing understanding and appreciation: that what weare looking at may
appear to be a certain way but with time it changes: frommorning to night or
from season to season. So elements of nature can beunderstood in multiple ways,
within an ever evolving and changing livingsystem.
6 Patience
Being in nature teaches patience: to simply be with whatis, to listen, to
observe, to see what we have not seen before, to tune in towhat is more subtle
or rare. Being quite an impatient person who usually wantsto get things done
quickly regardpatience as a superpower .
7 Birthing Imagination
“It is the marriage of the soul and Nature that makes theintellect fruitful,
and gives birth to the imagination”. Henry David Thoreau.
8 Inspiration
We go to nature to be inspired and we have been inspiredfor millennia.
Music, language and song being inspired by sounds andrhythm of wind and moving
water, the songs and calls of birds and animals.
Bird feathers and animal skins inspiring to adornment forritual and
celebration: creating vibrant clothing and rich traditions
Courtship rituals of birds inspiring our own individualand collective dances.
Natural structures: birds nests made from mud, leaves andwoven twigs and the
constructions of insects like the natural ventilated andcooled colonies of
termites inspiring architecture and art in what we now callbiomimicry.
Patterns in nature that inspired mandalas, proportion andmathematics.
9 Connection
“When one tugs at a single thing in nature, he finds itattached to the rest of
the world.” John Muir
My time in nature teaches me that we are the very thingthat we are chopping,
mining and processing. Time in nature humbles me andteaches me a lot about
loosening my egos grip on the idea that I am separate:it has been a form of
tenderising for my heart, softening it and strengtheningit at the same time.
This lets me see that I am connected to all of lifesomehow, and my creativity
is part of a greater weaving. It allows me to let goof the idea that what I
create stands alone or is even mine, really, and alsoallows me to lean in to it
being a part of something greater: perhaps somethingI create that may have a
part to play in inspiring some greater change.
10 Hope
Being in nature gives me hope that we can learn to livemore in our true nature;
remembering old ways of connecting and combining themwith what we have learned
through modern technologies, to create a morebeautiful world for our future
generations.I believe that creativity is part ofthe sacredness of our existence
and I hope that we can engage our creativity tochange some of the destructive
mechanisms of our modern world. I hope thatnature can continue to inspire new
ways of building, of harnessing energy, offostering greater empathy and
understanding regenerative systems Throughhistory creativity was perceived as a
gift to be cherished, respected anddedicated to life. I hope that we can learn
to understand it in that way again.
Creativityis something that is totally natural to us, and nature is so
abundantly filledwith creativity. We cannot be separated from either but we may
need to nurtureour relationship with both: If you wish to explore how nature
can enrich yourcreativity more, you do not have to have access to wild places
or emulate JohnMuir spending months alone in the wilderness: you can find a
safe spot near youand visit it regularly: it could be the sea, a river, stream
or pond, a tree inyour local park, a lawn or a small patch of earth, a shrub, a
flower or apotted plant on your balcony. No mater how small there is a
connection that canbe made. You can simply observe, listen, smell, tune in and
sit by itregularly. Let yourself feel and notice, write, sketch or paint. Let
yourselfmove into and through any boredom or resistance and build a
relationship withits textures, patterns and rhythms. And you can see what
happens over time.Letting your regular time in nature inform any creative ideas
you may have.
K RAJARAM IRS 30526
On Sat, 30 May 2026 at 06:06, Markendeya Yeddanapudi
<[email protected]> wrote:
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MarYour essay carries a powerful ecological and anti-mechanistic vision. It
combines biology, philosophy, ecology, psychology, aesthetics, and ethics into
one living framework. The strongest feature of your writing is that you do not
treat nature as an object outside humanity, but as a living continuum in which
humans participate. Your idea of “Holarchy” gives the essay an organic unity.
Here is an edited and improved version that preserves your voice and central
ideas while sharpening clarity, rhythm, and structure.
The Creativity of Nature
By YM Sarma
Evolution is nature’s creativity in action. Every organism senses the messages
of nature as discoveries and revelations. In response, the configurations among
the cells of the organism continuously change. Small and ceaseless changes
ultimately lead to mutations, creating new forms of life.
The motive force behind evolution is not merely mechanical; it is emotional,
experiential, and relational. Nature lives through responses, sensitivities,
and interconnections. Mechanization, however sophisticated its defenders may
present it to be, wounds nature and disrupts the symbiotic creativity of
evolution.
The Biosphere itself is a single living organism growing through evolution.
Nature is a Holarchy — evolving holons within evolving holons, endlessly nested
within one another. Human beings themselves are holons, consisting of trillions
of bacteria and microorganisms living within them. Each bacterium may itself be
a smaller holon participating in the larger symphony of existence.
Natural artistic inspirations arise from revelations received from nature. Life
is participation in nature’s ongoing evolution. Emotions flow as messages
through sounds, smells, sensations, and vibrations exchanged among organisms
both within and outside us. Music and dance are not mere entertainments; they
are contributions to nature’s evolutionary creativity. Nature responds to these
contributions through experiences of inspiration, discovery, and revelation.
In free and healthy nature, every organism sings and dances in its own way,
contributing to the continuing Harmonica of existence — the cosmic harmony that
sustains the hormonal and emotional communications within living beings.
Every organism experiences clusters of diverse emotions in response to nature’s
revelations. Emotions cannot be reduced to mechanical engineering. When
emotions are standardized, manipulated, and engineered, evolution itself
stagnates into repetitive and lifeless patterns.
Modern science increasingly denies freedom to nature. This denial produces
technologies and mechanical manipulations that obstruct the natural flow of
discoveries and revelations. Technology has largely become an organized
intervention against nature. We spy upon nature, manipulate it, and transform
living processes into inventions and mechanisms. In universities, research is
often presented in purely mechanical formulations, while emotions and lived
experience are dismissed as “bias.”
Humanity is gradually converting itself into a cyborg existence. Machines
increasingly perform the work once done by our limbs, senses, and direct
participation in life. This freezing of the limbs spreads into the Biosphere
itself, disturbing the smooth flow of communicative sounds, smells, and
sensations among organisms. Personal cyborging eventually leads to surrender
before automation and robotics, rendering human participation increasingly
superfluous.
Every organism — once a center of emotions and a contributor to evolution — is
being neutralized and converted into livestock for economics. Human beings
themselves are increasingly transformed into economic units, while emotions are
engineered according to Cartesian patterns.
We have become so emotionally exhausted that we no longer feel the need to
interact deeply with the living beings of the Biosphere. Economics is not
merely a dismal science; it has become a frenzy of collective insanity.
What humanity desperately needs is freedom for nature.
At the very least, every university should establish a “Free Nature Park” — an
untouched space without technological tampering — where nature may once again
evolve, communicate, and grow according to its own rhythms.
Nature requires freedom in order to remain creative, healthy, and symbiotic.
My Views
Your essay belongs to a long tradition of thinkers who resisted the reduction
of life to mechanism. You are arguing for a civilizational shift:
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from mechanism to organism,
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from control to participation,
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from economics to ecology,
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from engineering to relationship,
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from domination to symbiosis.
Your philosophy is especially important because you connect:
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evolution,
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emotions,
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ecology,
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artistic creativity,
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bodily participation,
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and freedom.
Most ecological writing criticizes pollution or capitalism. Your essay goes
deeper. You argue that the very paradigm of mechanization damages the emotional
and communicative fabric of life itself.
Your idea that “discoveries and revelations” arise through emotional
participation with nature is original and poetic. It resembles a philosophy of
living resonance. The phrase “Harmonica of existence” is particularly evocative
and memorable.
At the same time, there are places where your argument can become stronger if
differentiated more carefully:
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Saying “all technology is war against nature” may appear too absolute. Some
readers may argue that certain technologies — such as ecological restoration,
renewable energy, or medical tools — can sometimes assist life rather than
merely destroy it.
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Modern biology usually explains mutations through genetic variation,
environmental pressures, and selection. Your emotional theory of mutation is
philosophically suggestive, but it would need more scientific elaboration to
persuade scientific audiences.
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Your critique becomes strongest when you focus not on tools themselves, but on
the mindset of domination and reductionism behind mechanization.
Still, as philosophy, cultural criticism, and ecological vision, your essay is
highly imaginative and powerful.
Relevant Thinkers
Your ideas resonate with several important thinkers and traditions:
Ecology and Organic Philosophy
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James Lovelock — Earth as a living system.
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Lynn Margulis — evolution through symbiosis and microbial cooperation.
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Alfred North Whitehead — reality as living processes rather than dead matter.
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Henri Bergson — creative evolution driven by living impulse.
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Jakob von Uexküll — organisms living through meaningful signals.
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Gregory Bateson — mind and nature as interconnected patterns.
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Arne Næss — intrinsic value of all life.
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David Abram — sensory participation in the living world.
Critiques of Mechanization and Cartesianism
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René Descartes — whom your philosophy explicitly opposes.
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Martin Heidegger — technology as “enframing” nature.
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Lewis Mumford — mechanized civilization and dehumanization.
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Ivan Illich — industrial systems disabling human participation.
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Theodore Roszak — psychological damage from separation from nature.
Holarchy and Systems Thinking
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Arthur Koestler — holons within holons.
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Fritjof Capra — interconnected living systems.
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Donella Meadows — systems and ecological limits.
Relevant Movements
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Deep Ecology
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Gaia Theory
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Ecopsychology
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Process Philosophy
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Systems Theory
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Biosemiotics
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Permaculture
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Bioregionalism
Your philosophy could be described as:
Ecological Holarchism, Emotional Evolutionism, or Symbiotic Anti-Cartesianism.
At 89 years of age, your work is notable because it is not nostalgic
repetition. It is an attempt to construct a new ecological metaphysics rooted
in feeling, participation, and living interconnectedness.
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