I see, thanks Pascal!  Shame map_variables doesn't do the trick in this 
case.  I think I'll go with the manual approach you recommended as it seems 
the most efficient and relatively straight forward in my case.

On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 5:13:53 PM UTC-7, Pascal Lamblin wrote:
>
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2016, Pascal Lamblin wrote: 
> > Another option, still experimental, may be the `map_variables` function 
> > in scan_modules/scan_utils. 
>
> There seem to be some challenges regarding scalar constants with that 
> function, but I was able to do the following: 
>
> >>> theano.tensor.basic.constant.enable = False 
> >>> v = theano.tensor.lscalar('v') 
> >>> exp1 = 2 * v 
> >>> exp1.name = 'exp1' 
> >>> exp2 = 4 * exp1 
> >>> exp2.name = 'exp2' 
> >>> exp3 = 6 * exp2 
> >>> exp3.name = 'exp3' 
> >>> exp4 = 8 * exp3 
> >>> exp4.name = 'exp4' 
> >>> replace_dict = {'exp1': (3*exp1), 'exp2': (5*exp2), 'exp3': (7*exp3)} 
> >>> def replace(var): 
> ...     return replace_dict.get(var.name, var) 
> >>> exp5, = theano.scan_module.scan_utils.map_variables(replace, [exp4]) 
> >>> theano.printing.debugprint(exp5) 
> Elemwise{mul,no_inplace} [id A] 'exp4'   
>  |TensorConstant{8} [id B] 
>  |Elemwise{mul,no_inplace} [id C] ''   
>    |TensorConstant{7} [id D] 
>    |Elemwise{mul,no_inplace} [id C] ''   
>
> The issue is that it introduced a cycle in the graph: it replaced exp3 
> by 7*exp3, where exp3 is the new one... 
>
> I guess that illustrates the challenge of getting replacements right. 
>
> > 
> > Finally, it is actually possible to replace Apply nodes inputs manually. 
> > In your case, you could do something like: 
> > 
> > >>> exp2.owner.inputs[1] = 3*exp1 
> > >>> exp3.owner.inputs[1] = 5*exp2 
> > >>> exp4.owner.inputs[1] = 7*exp3 
> > >>> print(theano.pp(exp4)) 
> > (TensorConstant{8} * (TensorConstant{7} * (TensorConstant{6} * 
> (TensorConstant{5} * (TensorConstant{4} * (TensorConstant{3} * 
> (TensorConstant{2} * <TensorType(int64, scalar)>))))))) 
> > >>> exp4.eval({v: 1}) 
> > array(40320) 
> > 
> > But it can get hard to get right if the same expression is re-used 
> > several times. 
> > 
> > On Fri, Oct 14, 2016, John Coolidge wrote: 
> > > Hello, 
> > > 
> > > I'm trying to use theano.clone to implement dropout in my MLP network. 
> > >  Because I want to apply dropout at multiple layers, I pass the clone 
> call 
> > > multiple key value pairs to its replacement parameter: 
> > > replace={layer1:mask*layer1, layer2:mask*layer2, etc} however the 
> graph 
> > > that's returned seems to have only actually made one of the 
> replacements. 
> > >  I suspect this is because clone is doing the replacements 
> sequentially and 
> > > once it's done one replacement it generates a new graph for which the 
> other 
> > > key value pairs no longer correspond. 
> > > 
> > > Here is some example code that demonstrates the unexpected behavior: 
> > > 
> > >     v = T.lscalar() 
> > >     exp1 = 2*v 
> > >     exp2 = 4*exp1 
> > >     exp3 = 6*exp2 
> > >     exp4 = 8*exp3 
> > > 
> > >     print theano.pp(exp4) 
> > >     exp5 = theano.clone(exp4, replace={exp1:(3*exp1), exp2:(5*exp2), 
> > > exp3:(7*exp3)}) 
> > >     print theano.pp(exp5) 
> > >     t = theano.function(inputs=[v], outputs=exp5) 
> > >     print t(1) 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The output is: 
> > > (TensorConstant{8} * (TensorConstant{6} * (TensorConstant{4} * 
> > > (TensorConstant{2} * <TensorType(int64, scalar)>)))) 
> > > (TensorConstant{8} * (TensorConstant{7} * (TensorConstant{6} * 
> > > (TensorConstant{4} * (TensorConstant{2} * <TensorType(int64, 
> scalar)>))))) 
> > > 2688 
> > > 
> > > Although the clone adds the 7 factor to the new graph, it does not add 
> the 
> > > 3 or 5 factors such that the output for an input value of 1 is 
> 8*7*6*4*2*1 
> > > instead of 8! as I would have expected. 
> > > 
> > > I'm guessing this is how the clone function is supposed to work, but 
> does 
> > > anyone see how to get the desired behavior I'm looking for?  Perhaps I 
> > > could apply the replacements one at a time and after each replacement 
> > > update the remaining replacement key value pairs to point to 
> corresponding 
> > > points in the new graph, but I'm not sure how to find these 
> corresponding 
> > > points.  Or perhaps there's a function like the clone but that 
> actually 
> > > makes the replacements in place so that the other replacement key 
> value 
> > > pairs would not be invalidated after the first replacement?  Any ideas 
> > > would be greatly appreciated! 
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