Both are using CUdNNs.. I am wondering if some ops are running on the CPU, 
how do I find that out ?

On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 10:00:39 PM UTC-7, Michael Klachko wrote:
>
> Do both versions use CuDNN? If gpu0 version didn't use it, that would 
> explain the difference. Also, look at CPU usage for gpu0 version - it could 
> be that some ops are running on CPU instead of GPU. 
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Ragav Venkatesan <ragav.ve...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Running on GTX 1080, cuda0 for device runs for 1.69 minutes at 98% , gpu0 
>> runs for 5.12 minutes at 34% . Both runs the same code cnn_tutorial from 
>> theano tutorials. The code is not modified or changed at all. 
>> floatX=float32, mode = FAST_RUN, nvcc.fastmath = True and nvcc.allowgc 
>> =True. 
>>
>> On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 4:47:38 PM UTC-7, Michael Klachko wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes. It depends on the size of your network/input - the smaller it is, 
>>> the harder it is to keep 3k cores busy all the time. 
>>> Regarding timing, you don't need to write much code:
>>>
>>> import time
>>> start_time = time.time()
>>> your code here
>>> print "Code ran for {:.1f} minutes".format((time.time() - 
>>> start_time)/60)            
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Ragav Venkatesan <ragav.ve...@gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm writing a code to test this, but why do you ask this ? Is there a 
>>>> case where nvidia-smi might give me 35% util when the GPU is actually 
>>>> running the code as fast as it can ?
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, November 9, 2016 at 5:36:14 PM UTC-7, Michael Klachko 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ragav, so when GPU is 98% utilized, is the training faster than when 
>>>>> it's 35% utilized? Have you timed it?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Ragav Venkatesan <
>>>>> ragav.ve...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> After investigating further I don't think this is a speed or slow 
>>>>>> issue. I think the newer version of CUDA/cuDNN using the cuda backend is 
>>>>>> not using the GPU fully. The older version (7.5/5103) of CUDA/cuDNN 
>>>>>> produce 
>>>>>> 98% GPU util but the same code on the latest versions (8.0/5105) don't. 
>>>>>> The 
>>>>>> code by the way is the lenet tutorial from theano, so its not some weird 
>>>>>> coding error also. Using the libgpuarray backend, I am able to produce 
>>>>>> 98% 
>>>>>> util even with CUDA/cuDNN (8/5105).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 9, 2016 at 9:48:40 AM UTC-7, nouiz wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It could be that the new back-end (libgpuarray) is faster and more 
>>>>>>> efficient in that cases. So just use that back-end :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The speed difference between both back-end isn't constant, but 
>>>>>>> should be a little bit faster with the new back-end in average.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have found a few speed regression in the new back-end, but they 
>>>>>>> where fixed. If you found one, just tell us and we'll fix it. But the 
>>>>>>> probably is still low of having slowdown in the new back-end.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We just merged one such fix with indexing. Make sure to update 
>>>>>>> libgpuarray and recompile it if you want to be sure to have the fastest 
>>>>>>> version.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fred
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 1:56 PM, Ragav Venkatesan <
>>>>>>> ragav.ve...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok, here is a problem I'm getting and I am not sure how to solve 
>>>>>>>> this. If I use the libgpuarray backend on the cnn_tutorial I am 
>>>>>>>> getting a 
>>>>>>>> 98% gpu tutilization with cudnn 5105. If I use cuda backend, I am only 
>>>>>>>> getting about 35% utilization. 
>>>>>>>> Anyidea why this might be so ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, October 24, 2016 at 9:38:17 AM UTC-7, nouiz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What errors do you have? Delete your Theano cache, just in case 
>>>>>>>>> and be sure to use Theano dev version. The last release don't support 
>>>>>>>>> it I 
>>>>>>>>> think.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Fred
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Michael Klachko <
>>>>>>>>> michael...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, it's supported, I'm using it right now (CUDA 8.0 on Ubuntu 
>>>>>>>>>> 14.04):
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> import theano
>>>>>>>>>> Using gpu device 0: TITAN X (Pascal) (CNMeM is enabled with 
>>>>>>>>>> initial size: 30.0% of memory, cuDNN 5105)
>>>>>>>>>> >>> print theano.__version__
>>>>>>>>>> 0.9.0dev3.dev-20fd30a38d34687e9d944140042762ca9fca6276
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 22, 2016 at 2:54:00 PM UTC-7, Ragav 
>>>>>>>>>> Venkatesan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I updated and I'm getting some weird errors. With Cuda backend, 
>>>>>>>>>>> convolutions only run on CPU and with libgpuarray backend GPUs only 
>>>>>>>>>>> run at 
>>>>>>>>>>> about 35% util. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
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