Gulf War vets from both sides of the big pond speak out.

1. Two Gulf War veterans from the UK, both held as POW's during Desert Storm, have spoken out against another Gulf War, according to this UK news report ... http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/article.asp?id=374

2. Gulf War veteran and founder of Veterans For Common Sense speaks out.


THE CALL FOR PEACE FROM GULF HEROES

Mirror (UK)

NO ONE can tell John Peters and John Nicol anything about the brutality of Saddam Hussein's regime.

They suffered grievously for fighting against the Iraqi despot in the war to free Kuwait.

They were shot down, captured, beaten and tortured. Yet yesterday, as another 100 British planes were ordered to the Gulf, both former airmen spoke out against waging a new war on Iraq.

Like others who have actually taken part in military conflict, they understand it is necessary but must be the last resort.

And we are not yet at that stage in the struggle to control Saddam. He may want to possess weapons of mass destruction, he may want to attack other nations, but there is no evidence he is anywhere near being able to.

That is why so many former military men have come out against war at the moment. Like John Peters and John Nicol, they don't believe action is necessary - and think it might be dangerous.

We know the British generals are dubious about invading Iraq. Their opposite numbers in the US are likely to feel the same.

As ever, the politicians who order in troops do so from a position of comfort and safety. Neither George W. Bush nor Tony Blair have personal experience of warfare.

They should listen to the men who do.

Charles is right http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=12616661&method=full&siteid=50143


The following letter is written by a veteran of the first Gulf War. He's started Veterans for Common Sense -- a group of former military folks who oppose the current plans for war on Iraq. If you or someone you know are interested in joining him, please check out their website: http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/ Sincerely,

--Eli Pariser, MoveOn.org

Twelve years ago, in February of 1991, I crossed the border between Saudi Arabia and Iraq with the 24th Infantry Division. Back then I was a 20-year-old Abrams tank crewman, and I fought in several battes in southern Iraq. I can say from personal experience, the media got it wrong. The first Gulf War wasn't clean, it wasn't pretty, and it wasn't precise. In the chaos and destruction of battle, anything can happen. We killed a lot of people.

Like many of the men and women I served with, I do not believe that President Bush or Secretary of State Powell, in his presentation at the United Nations on Wednesday, has made the case that Iraq poses an imminent threat to the United States. Without proving imminent threat, the administration has failed outright to justify its rush to war. Many senior military leaders, including Generals Norman Schwarzkopf, Anthony Zinni and Wesley Clark, have all questioned the wisdom of another war with Iraq.

Thousands of veterans of all U.S. wars have stepped forward, marched in demonstrations and raised their voices to say that the nation they defended should not be attacking other nations. There is no sense of just cause in the U.S. armed forces today. Most recently we veterans have been joined in our message by families with loved ones in the military.

Tens of thousands of American soldiers and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis could die in a long, drawn-out war in Iraq.

We need your help to spread our message that veterans oppose this war. We can win without war. How can you help? Join Veterans for Common Sense. Whether you are a veteran, or you have a family member in the military, or you simply support our message, you can join us in calling for a common sense approach to Iraq. We need your support.

To find out more, please visit: http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/

   

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