> Note that the team members names are only allowed to contain one space 
> character, so use hypens for double barreled names or your project will 
> generate an error when you try to compile it. 
> 
You can also use the escape character "/" to allow as may spaces as you want 
e.g. team "Giles /St. John Cuthbert Junior"

Dave Clucas
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 14:45:46 +0000
> From: Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Therion] Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and
>       Layouts
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> Hot off the press, I have published another update to my Therion Tutorial.
> Since the last revision in November 2015 I have simplified the
> recommendations on larger project data structures (I realised my own
> projects were not following my advice I had written!), and added a new
> lesson on defining layouts.
> 
> As always, feedback and comments are welcomed. But don't be disheartened if
> I have not yet incorporated suggestions made already into this latest
> revision. I just wanted to get this initial layouts chapter out there as
> several people asked for it. I'll take the time to read all the feedback
> I've received already and merge it into the tutorial in time.
> 
> Download here (or follow the link from the Therion Wiki page):
> *http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/
> <http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/>*
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> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 15:34:01 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Martin Sluka <martinsluka at mac.com>
> Subject: [Therion]  Re:  Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and
>       Layouts
> To: Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com>
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> Hi Footleg,
> 
> you don't show using right click with mouse when drawing scraps. It is much 
> faster way.
> 
> Drawing line - one may not draw beziers directly. It is possible to draw only 
> points which are not "smooth" and then use "Convert to curve" feature from 
> "Edit line" menu. There are only small correction necessary.
> 
> The problem with transparency is that all viewers using Apple library and 
> several others (Sumatra) ignore group transparency which is in definition of 
> PDF. So it is bug. (According to?Martin Budaj).
> 
> m.s.
> 
> On Mar 15, 2016, at 03:46 PM, Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hot off the press, I have published another update to my Therion Tutorial. 
> Since the last revision in November 2015 I have simplified the 
> recommendations on larger project data structures (I realised my own projects 
> were not following my advice I had written!), and added a new lesson on 
> defining layouts.
> 
> As always, feedback and comments are welcomed. But don't be disheartened if I 
> have not yet incorporated suggestions made already into this latest revision. 
> I just wanted to get this initial layouts chapter out there as several people 
> asked for it. I'll take the time to read all the feedback I've received 
> already and merge it into the tutorial in time.
> 
> Download here (or follow the link from the Therion Wiki page):
> http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/
> 
> Footleg
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> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 20:18:29 +0000
> From: Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Therion] Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and
>       Layouts
> To: Martin Sluka <martinsluka at mac.com>
> Cc: therion at speleo.sk
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> Hi Martin,
> 
> Thanks for these points. Can you clarify what you mean by using right mouse
> click when drawing scraps? I thought I covered the right-mouse menus for
> setting line options. Was there something specific I've missed, or not
> clear enough mention of context menus when drawing?
> 
> I'm not sure where group transparency is applied in the PDFs. I see
> transparency working for overlying passages and for boulders drawn over
> area fills. At least I see it in Sumatra and FoxIt readers, but not in
> Adobe Acrobat Reader. Can you give examples of features where I can check
> whether it is working?
> 
> Convert to curve is a good one. I'll find a place to add that in as I've
> seen a few people struggle with drawing beziers directly when we run out
> training courses.
> 
> Thanks,
> Footleg
> 
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 3:34 PM Martin Sluka <martinsluka at mac.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Footleg,
>> 
>> you don't show using right click with mouse when drawing scraps. It is
>> much faster way.
>> 
>> Drawing line - one may not draw beziers directly. It is possible to draw
>> only points which are not "smooth" and then use "Convert to curve" feature
>> from "Edit line" menu. There are only small correction necessary.
>> 
>> The problem with transparency is that all viewers using Apple library and
>> several others (Sumatra) ignore group transparency which is in definition
>> of PDF. So it is bug. (According to Martin Budaj).
>> 
>> m.s.
>> 
>> On Mar 15, 2016, at 03:46 PM, Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hot off the press, I have published another update to my Therion Tutorial.
>> Since the last revision in November 2015 I have simplified the
>> recommendations on larger project data structures (I realised my own
>> projects were not following my advice I had written!), and added a new
>> lesson on defining layouts.
>> 
>> As always, feedback and comments are welcomed. But don't be disheartened
>> if I have not yet incorporated suggestions made already into this latest
>> revision. I just wanted to get this initial layouts chapter out there as
>> several people asked for it. I'll take the time to read all the feedback
>> I've received already and merge it into the tutorial in time.
>> 
>> Download here (or follow the link from the Therion Wiki page):
>> *http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/
>> <http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/>*
>> 
>> Footleg
>> 
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> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 22:15:47 +0100
> From: Martin Sluka <martinsluka at mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [Therion] Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and
>       Layouts
> To: Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com>
> Cc: therion at speleo.sk
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>> 15. 3. 2016 v 21:18, Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com>:
>> 
>> Hi Martin,
>> 
>> Thanks for these points. Can you clarify what you mean by using right mouse 
>> click when drawing scraps? I thought I covered the right-mouse menus for 
>> setting line options. Was there something specific I've missed, or not clear 
>> enough mention of context menus when drawing?
> 
> I prefer last time right click menus. It is really faster. I?ll send you 
> screenshots I made.
> 
>> I'm not sure where group transparency is applied in the PDFs. I see 
>> transparency working for overlying passages and for boulders drawn over area 
>> fills. At least I see it in Sumatra and FoxIt readers, but not in Adobe 
>> Acrobat Reader. Can you give examples of features where I can check whether 
>> it is working?
> 
> It is exactly as you wrote. Reader is correct, others with transparency for 
> blocks have bug. Including Mac Prerview, Fast Preview and others Mac viewers. 
> It is quite pity, because Fast Preview is really fast.
> 
>> Convert to curve is a good one. I'll find a place to add that in as I've 
>> seen a few people struggle with drawing beziers directly when we run out 
>> training courses.
>> 
> 
> m.
> 
>> Thanks,
>> Footleg
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 3:34 PM Martin Sluka <martinsluka at mac.com 
>> <mailto:martinsluka at mac.com>> wrote:
>> Hi Footleg,
>> 
>> you don't show using right click with mouse when drawing scraps. It is much 
>> faster way.
>> 
>> Drawing line - one may not draw beziers directly. It is possible to draw 
>> only points which are not "smooth" and then use "Convert to curve" feature 
>> from "Edit line" menu. There are only small correction necessary.
>> 
>> The problem with transparency is that all viewers using Apple library and 
>> several others (Sumatra) ignore group transparency which is in definition of 
>> PDF. So it is bug. (According to Martin Budaj).
>> 
>> m.s.
>> 
>> On Mar 15, 2016, at 03:46 PM, Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:drfootleg at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hot off the press, I have published another update to my Therion Tutorial. 
>>> Since the last revision in November 2015 I have simplified the 
>>> recommendations on larger project data structures (I realised my own 
>>> projects were not following my advice I had written!), and added a new 
>>> lesson on defining layouts.
>>> 
>>> As always, feedback and comments are welcomed. But don't be disheartened if 
>>> I have not yet incorporated suggestions made already into this latest 
>>> revision. I just wanted to get this initial layouts chapter out there as 
>>> several people asked for it. I'll take the time to read all the feedback 
>>> I've received already and merge it into the tutorial in time.
>>> 
>>> Download here (or follow the link from the Therion Wiki page):
>>> http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/ 
>>> <http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/>
>>> 
>>> Footleg
>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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