Actually, I have found a way, but it is cheating, and not suitable for a 
real-life project.

Just start the sequence from the other end of the survey.  Now I expect it is 
not possible to make a gap at station 2.

 

#set gap at station 7 by starting from station 11

    extend start 11

    extend left 11

    extend ignore 7 8

    extend right 2 10

    extend right 10

 



processing extended elevation ... 

START 11@extendedloop

LEFT 7@extendedloop

LEFT 6@extendedloop

LEFT 5@extendedloop

LEFT 4@extendedloop

LEFT 3@extendedloop

LEFT 2@extendedloop

RIGHT 10@extendedloop

RIGHT 9@extendedloop

RIGHT 8@extendedloop

RIGHT 7@extendedloop #gap here

BACK 9@extendedloop

BACK 10@extendedloop

BACK 2@extendedloop

LEFT 1@extendedloop

done

 

 

From: Therion <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bruce Mutton
Sent: Tuesday, 7 July 2020 20:59
To: 'List for Therion users' <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Therion] Revisiting Breaking extended elevations on specific 
stations

 

OK, I give up I think.  It might not be possible to break a loop at it’s 
closing end.

 

Tarquin’s example…

 

1   2 1    0   -10

2   3 1    0   -10

3   4 1    45  -10

4   5 1    45  -10

5   6 1    45  -10

6   7 1    90  -10

7   8 1.71 225  60

8   9 1    225  10

9  10 1    225  10

10  2 1.8  225 -32.2

7  11 1    90  -10

 

# set gap at station 2

    extend start 1

    extend ignore 2 10

    extend left 8



processing extended elevation ... 

START 1@extendedloop

RIGHT 2@extendedloop

RIGHT 3@extendedloop

RIGHT 4@extendedloop

RIGHT 5@extendedloop

RIGHT 6@extendedloop

RIGHT 7@extendedloop

RIGHT 11@extendedloop

BACK 7@extendedloop

LEFT 8@extendedloop

LEFT 9@extendedloop

LEFT 10@extendedloop

LEFT 2@extendedloop #gap here

done

 

Looking at therion.log transcript we can see that Therion traverses 1 2 3 4 5 6 
7 11, then steps back to 7 before stepping to 8 9 10 2 and consequently leaving 
a gap between two 2s.

 

If we had a statement to tell Therion to step back beyond 7 to 2, and THEN 
start generating we might get 2 10 9 8 7 and leaving a gap between two 7s.

This would play havoc with my ‘extend ignore’ rules of thumb for predicting gap 
locations though. 
https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/extend#summary_of_all_extend_options_for_survey_centrelines

 

Another solution might be for ‘extend right 2 10’ etc to be an implied  ‘extend 
ignore’ for any other legs emanating from station 2.  But that would break many 
existing extended elevations, so although more intuitive, lets cancel that idea!

 

Bruce

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Therion <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > 
On Behalf Of Tarquin Wilton-Jones via Therion
Sent: Tuesday, 7 July 2020 09:12
To: Therion <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
Cc: Tarquin Wilton-Jones <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> >
Subject: [Therion] Revisiting Breaking extended elevations on specific stations

 

Hi all,

 

I have a puzzle that comes from my old puzzle:

 <https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/breakingextend> 
https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/breakingextend

 

1   2 1    0   -10

2   3 1    0   -10

3   4 1    45  -10

4   5 1    45  -10

5   6 1    45  -10

6   7 1    90  -10

7   8 1.71 225  60

8   9 1    225  10

9  10 1    225  10

10  2 1.8  225 -32.2

7  11 1    90  -10

 

Imagine you want to break the loop at station 7, so that Therion shows

1-2-3-4-5-6-7-11 as a single line, then 2-10-9-8-7 as a branch off it.

The break should be at the end of the branch:

    10-9-8-7

   /

1-2-3-4-5-6-7-11

 

If you say "extend ignore 7" or "extend ignore 7 6" it will do this:

1-2-10-9-8-7-11

   \

    3-4-5-6-7

Breaks at the right station, but on the wrong branch.

 

You can do "extend ignore 8 7" to break at the wrong station on the right 
branch. If you use "extend ignore 7 11" it ignores you, and breaks at the 
natural point, leg 2-3.

 

Is it actually possible to break at station 7 along the 2-10-9-8-7 branch?

 

Cheers!

 

Tarquin

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