Hi Michael

As Tarquin mentioned, I have found that stopping the walls on both sides of the 
passage in a single scrap will upset kml generation.

Maybe pictures are clearer.

In the scenarios pictured below you need to create separate scraps each side of 
the gap.  So in your example there should be at least three plan scraps.

Personally I prefer much shorter scraps, I find 250 m to be very long, but 
other than making debugging a little harder, excessive scrap length/size should 
not be a cause of your problems.

 



 



 

Bruce

 

From: Therion <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Michael Ross
Sent: Tuesday, 20 April 2021 22:58
To: 'List for Therion users' <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Therion] Need help producing scraps.kml without white blobs

 

Dear Stacho, Bruce, Martin,

 

Thanks for your replies.

The low hanging fruits have been picked already long time ago:

Yellow ticks checked, outline parms checked, passage fills are displayed 
correctly in PDF.

 

Perhaps it displays differently in GoogleEarth compared to other GIS? (Have not 
yet used OpenGIS or ArcGIS).

 

I think, Stacho is closest to a potential cause.

 

It appears to me that the code path for kml generation is different from the 
codepath for PDF generation

and follows different heuristics.

 

For example, kml generation seems to be agnostic of "outline" parameters and 
direction of yellow sticks.

 

I produced subsections by selecting small maps for the output, the behaviour is 
the same, i.e., no scalability / interdependency problem.

I attach one of the scraps and the resulting map in kml.

 

I cannot easily extract a data sample for replay by you, 

but I'm happy to provide the complete data to anyone who is willing to dive 
into this problem.

 

As already said, a post-processing hint (replacing colours in the kml) would 
also help.

 

Cheers, Michael.

 

 

Von: Therion [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Stacho Mudrak
Gesendet: Montag, 19. April 2021 19:25
Cc: List for Therion users <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
Betreff: Re: [Therion] Need help producing scraps.kml without white blobs

 

Hi Michael,

 

I have found one issue with the current version of Google Earth - it was 
ignoring (not filling) polygons, where the last point was not equal to the 
first point.

 

It is fixed in 
<https://github.com/therion/therion/commit/18eca78edd9dab377a0aa585a61a273d81024afe>
 18eca78, but I am not sure, it if will fix your issues.

 

S.

 

 

On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 at 16:44, Stacho Mudrak <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Hi Michael,

 

it looks to me like it is some kind of inner/outer ring problem. Are you able 
to isolate and post some minimal sample, where this problem happens? It would 
help a lot.

 

Thanks, S.

 

On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 at 16:26, Michael Ross <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Hello there,

I "own" a fairly large dataset of a maze cave.
Producing PDF output works well,
but when producing kml using

  export map -projection plan      -output Scraps.kml

I get large white blobs where there should be transparency. See attachment.

First assumption was that Therion needs some help by marking certain walls 
"outline in".
But that didn't help.

Then I tried redrawing the walls of the affected passages to get long lines of 
walls rather than 
concatenated short sections of walls, assuming that would help Therion to 
better understand.
Didn't help.

Anyone had this problem so far?

If there is a way to post-process the kml file to remove the white areas, that 
would also help.

Or any other hint to systematically track this down.

Kind Regards,
Michael


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