Thanks for the update.  I haven't been reading Iron Man regularly since 2003.  I recently read Invincible Iron Man #1 and enjoyed it.  Maybe I'll pick up the trade paperbacks someday.


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Subject: [The Unique Geek] Re: Fraction's Iron Man revolution
From: Van <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, June 14, 2010 11:06 pm
To: The Unique Geek <[email protected]>


I confess I missed most of the points that Luke made, but I can
definitely see where that kind of thing would be annoying if you were
bothering to pay enough attention to actually catch those things.
Sadly, for me, the hurdle I've asked IRON MAN to jump every month for
the last decade-plus has simply been, "don't put me to sleep," so
those kinds of details just sailed right under my radar.

Shag, your question is a good one but difficult to answer directly.
For the most part, the previous comics continuity simply hasn't come
up, and he hasn't really issued a list of what's now "in" or "out" in
Shellhead's history. And when it does come up, it's all "tainted"
with movie continuity now. So, for example, instead of references to
"StarkTech," we get references to "RT" or "Repulsor Technology"--
something I'd never heard in my life before the first movie.

I'm still astonished that IRON MAN avoided cancellation between the
early Nineties and the first movie-- in fact, I think it was in 2004
or 05 that only four or five issues of IRON MAN came out in the entire
calendar year. So basically this does represent progress-- he needed
help. It's just weird, is all I'm saying. And not really
historically the Marvel way of doing things, unless I'm forgetting
something. It seems more like a classic DC "reboot."

--Van



On Jun 13, 10:54 pm, Shag <[email protected]> wrote:
> Interesting.  As you said, jettisoning much of it is no sweat.  But
> did he keep the Michelinie/Layton stuff?  What about all the various
> suits (i.e. Silver Centurion, Extremis, etc)?  Did those suits just
> never exist now?
>
> The Irredeemable Shaghttp://firestormfan.comhttp://onceuponageek.comhttp://twitter.com/onceuponageek
>
> On Jun 12, 10:01 am, Van Plexico <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Since I am probably the only person around here who's actually been
> > masochistic enough to read IRON MAN month-in and month-out for the
> > last eighteen years (not to mention from the mid-Seventies to the
> > mid-Eighties before that), I have a feeling that others maybe haven't
> > noticed this:
>
> > Matt Fraction has basically jettisoned 80% of Iron Man's
> > history/continuity and replaced it with stuff from the two movies.
>
> > He's doing a clever job of carefully reinserting a few odds and ends
> > from the comics' past, here and there (a certain secretary in the
> > latest issue, for example).  But, for the most part, and completely
> > out of the blue, Tony is suddenly *almost* "movie Tony," and Tony's
> > world is *almost* "movie Tony's world."
>
> > But here's the kicker:  I'm not complaining.
>
> > Because Tony's history/continuity (and 80% of the stories since 1993)
> > was/were mostly forgettable.  So having Tony actually "forget" much of
> > it-- not only was it a clever plot device, it was devastatingly
> > effective commentary on what came before in the comic.
>
> > But Fraction's gone much farther than that.  He has erased a vast
> > majority of everything from the comics over the last several *decades*
> > (not just Civil War) and replaced it with the tighter and much more
> > compact movie continuity -- and this longtime Iron Man fan really
> > doesn't mind!
>
> > That speaks volumes, eh?
>
> > --Van
>
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