The problem with Ultron is that there's no way they'll have the villain in any of these movies be a "big, gray robot who shoots energy from his face," now that they used the Destroyer in THOR.
I was excited about seeing the Destroyer in the THOR movie for about five minutes, until I realized that. --Van Sent from my iPhone On Jul 19, 2011, at 1:13 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Today's Topic Summary > Group: http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek/topics > > Avengers! [21 Updates] > DC Comics Launches Android App With Help From ComiXology - Droid-Life [1 > Update] > Lee, DiDio: Rebuilding the DCU is response to Shrinking Market [1 Update] > gphangouts Lists Public Google+ Hangouts for You to Join - Lifehacker [2 > Updates] > Topic: Avengers! > Cary Preston <[email protected]> Jul 19 06:35AM -0400 ^ > > Very amped for this now. > > > > Luke <[email protected]> Jul 19 04:45AM -0700 ^ > > "You've got a mean swing." Nice. I hope that we can see some of Thor > And Iron Man Are Friends like we saw in the early 100s of Avengers. > > I too am very excited for this project but with the huge caveat that I > hope to all the gods of the Marvel pantheon that Joss Whedon doesn't > Whedon all over it and ruin it. The only film he has ever directed > (Serenity) was a mindless, hopeless, jumbled clusterbomb of a > disaster. > > > > Edward Crosby <[email protected]> Jul 19 08:00AM -0400 ^ > > No it wasn't. You're wrong. It was a great, fun, and very entertaining > movie. Especially for the Firefly fans. There were only two bad parts of the > entire film - SPOILER ALERT - when Shepherd and Wash died. > Although I am not much of a Marvel fan, I am looking forward to this. I was > hoping to see The Hulk in this. He's not in any of the clips. Wasn't he > supposed to be in the movie? IMDB.com has credits to Mark Ruffalo as puny > Banner (I remember the rumors of this) and Lou Ferrigno as the voice. > > ---------------------------------------- > Have a Better One, > Edward Crosby > http://about.me/edwardcrosby > > > > > Luke <[email protected]> Jul 19 05:55AM -0700 ^ > > No, I'm not wrong. You're wrong. That movie was a dog, and a > rightful fiscal failure. Firefly was a dog of a show and the movie > version was incomprehensible to anyone who was not a devotee of the > show. > > Whedon has not proven himself to be successful in feature films. The > fact of the matter is that his only feature film was a bomb. And > hopefully he will not apply his filter of crumminess which defined his > television shows to The Avengers. > > > > Luke <[email protected]> Jul 19 05:55AM -0700 ^ > > Also, yes, Hulk is going to be in the movie. According to Ruffalo, he > is going to be mocapping the Hulk's movements as well as playing Bruce > Banner. > > > > Edward Crosby <[email protected]> Jul 19 09:04AM -0400 ^ > > That is your opinion, that Serenity and Firefly was a "dog of a show" when > it is a known fact that it was actually quite fantastic. > But, that is one of many things we accept here at TUG is that it is okay for > an opinion to be wrong. It's called diversity. > > ---------------------------------------- > Have a Better One, > Edward Crosby > http://about.me/edwardcrosby > > > > > Luke <[email protected]> Jul 19 06:10AM -0700 ^ > > "Known fact?" You mean "desperate nerd wish?" > > I watched the show. It made my eyes hurt. Didn't help that, as I > said in another thread yesterday, that it's a banal ripoff of Outlaw > Star. And again, I'm not otaku so that's not just a typical Asiaphile > argument. > > Fact: The only feature film which Joss Whedon has directed made ~ > $25m. Thus he has NO track record for being a successful film > director. Hence my concern for the Avengers film. > > In any event, after seeing Thor this past weekend (discount theater) I > am very excited to see him and Iron Man interact on screen. Nevermind > Cap! > > > > Jason Service <[email protected]> Jul 19 11:27AM -0400 ^ > > "No, I'm not wrong. You're wrong. That movie was a dog, and a > rightful fiscal failure. Firefly was a dog of a show and the movie > version was incomprehensible to anyone who was not a devotee of the > show." > > Whatever. I wasn't a devotee of the show, i watched all of 4 (maybe 3 > episodes) before i gave up on it. I didn't like the western/cowboy aspect of > the show...i gave up on the train robbery episode. > > Serenity was fine. I had a few episodes of the show under my belt and i > understood what was happening. Maybe we need less spoon-feeding than you do. > > Regarding Avengers, i believe that Wheadon will do a fine job with it, > however, if Avengers bombs with the general public (i think Avengers will > make its money back regarless if it is considered good or bad, there's just > too much hype around it already for it to be a financial failure) Wheadon > will likely be cast out of the big screen side of the business and sent back > to TV. He has a solid track record on the small screen with Buffy and Angel, > lots of fans for his other projects like Dollhouse and Firefly, so his > devotees will continue to follow him waiting for his next 'golden' > production. > > > > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Jul 19 12:32PM -0400 ^ > > In geek culture, "known fact" does equal "desperate (fill in the blank) > wish". And I'd bet most on this listserve 'know' that Serenity was awesome > and that those that disagree are just wrong :) > > ~Ron > > Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless > > -----Original message----- > From: Luke <[email protected]> > To: The Unique Geek <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 13:10:22 GMT+00:00 > Subject: [The Unique Geek] Re: Avengers! > > "Known fact?" You mean "desperate nerd wish?" > > I watched the show. It made my eyes hurt. Didn't help that, as I > said in another thread yesterday, that it's a banal ripoff of Outlaw > Star. And again, I'm not otaku so that's not just a typical Asiaphile > argument. > > Fact: The only feature film which Joss Whedon has directed made ~ > $25m. Thus he has NO track record for being a successful film > director. Hence my concern for the Avengers film. > > In any event, after seeing Thor this past weekend (discount theater) I > am very excited to see him and Iron Man interact on screen. Nevermind > Cap! > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Unique Geek" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. > > > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Jul 19 12:33PM -0400 ^ > > I'm guessing the hulk wasn't in the trailer since that will all be done in > post production and they just have principle filming done so far. > > Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless > > -----Original message----- > From: Luke <[email protected]> > To: The Unique Geek <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 12:55:57 GMT+00:00 > Subject: [The Unique Geek] Re: Avengers! > > Also, yes, Hulk is going to be in the movie. According to Ruffalo, he > is going to be mocapping the Hulk's movements as well as playing Bruce > Banner. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Unique Geek" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. > > > Cary Preston <[email protected]> Jul 19 12:36PM -0400 ^ > > I wasn't a Firefly fan but I thought the movie was ok. Came across as a long > TV show with better production values, but still watchable. > > > > Luke <[email protected]> Jul 19 09:48AM -0700 ^ > > Sorry for steering this thread towards how bad Firefly and Serenity > were. > > Jason, I was going to agree with you regarding Whedon and the outcome > of The Avengers, but since you're insulting me by saying I need "spoon > feeding" you can go pound salt. > > Ron, I think you are dead-on about the Hulk effects not being ready to > show off, especially considering the sharp backlash from the fans when > the unfinished ILM CGI Hulk was shown in trailers for Ang Lee's Hulk. > I am willing to bet that Marvel wants Hulk to really "WOW" audiences > when he shows up on the big screen in Avengers. > > Considering the less than stellar performance of Thor (as compared to > IM and IM2), I am curious to see what both Captain America and then > Avengers will do fiscally. (Without looking up numbers I am pretty > sure that Incredible Hulk did about the same as Thor.) Will Avengers > be seen as the third Iron Man film, putting projections in the $300m+ > range, or as the followup to Thor and such, putting it in the $170m > range? > > > > > > Jason Service <[email protected]> Jul 19 12:58PM -0400 ^ > > Just attempting to keep up with your level of dickishness. > > > > Luke <[email protected]> Jul 19 10:00AM -0700 ^ > > Fair enough. I often come across online as more dickish than I > intend. > > Hence I would like to get this thread back on track to the Avengers > and not Firefly/Serenity. Clearly that is a sore spot for me. > > So is the rumor still that Loki is using the Skrulls somehow? Along > with the Infinity Gauntlet and/or the Cosmic Cube? > > > > Jason Service <[email protected]> Jul 19 01:06PM -0400 ^ > > keep in mind, thanks to Sam Jackson, we have a script re-write. I would be > amazed if they went WILDLY away from what was written, but the leaked script > is no longer valid. > > I am attempting to stay away from true story lines as i would like to be as > suprised as possible with the story when i see the film, but speculation is > all about the fun!!! > > > > Luke <[email protected]> Jul 19 10:11AM -0700 ^ > > I did not know about the rewrite. Interesting. > > I can't see introducing the Infinity Gauntlet on the heels of the > Cosmic Cube/Tesseract (as it is called in Captain America, > apparently). One super artifact should be enough. > > I could see using the Skrulls, I guess. I never really liked them. > But I can see a movie where Nick Fury has the Avengers work together > because SHIELD has found out that high ranking officials are being > replaced with Skrulls with the intent of obtaining the Cube in order > to openly invade the Earth. Skrulls just don't seem like a good foe > for Thor. Iron Man, alright, I can give you that. Maybe they have > super ray guns or something which can damage the armor. But Skrulls > can't stand up to Thor, especially as he was portrayed in the movie. > > I guess they're a better choice than the Space Phantom. > > Honestly, my favorite Avengers villain is Kang and I know we won't get > him. > > > > Jason Service <[email protected]> Jul 19 01:15PM -0400 ^ > > i'm with ya. Skrulls, meh. I mean you can make a cosmic invasion film, and > that can be great, but that isn't what the Avengers really is...at least it > isn't to me. > > Iron Man stories seemed to hint at Mandarin. But a dude with 10 rings that > have magical powers seems...lame. Not too sure where it will go, but i have > high hopes! > > > > Luke <[email protected]> Jul 19 10:33AM -0700 ^ > > This will be last word on the subject for right now just because if I > get going I won't shut up. > > I'm guessing that Mandy will be the Big Bad in IM3. Everything in the > two movies plus the tie-in materials has pointed to that, what with > the Ten Rings being the terror cell which Shellhead continues to > tangle with. (Blink and you'll miss it in IM2, but the individual who > gives Vanko the fake passport and credentials is credited as "Ten > Rings," so Mandy had a hand in that too.) > > I think that Thor set up the way which Mandy can work. Simply have > his rings resemble the Asgardian technology we saw in Thor and have > him explain that he recovered them from the valley like in the > original story. Only in the flashback so that the ground was marked > with the Bifrost symbols like in Thor. Perhaps Loki sent them down > knowing that Mandy would get ahold of them. Maybe they were cast out > of Asgard for being too dangerous. But the line in Thor about magic > and science being one and the same, to me as an Iron Fan, just seemed > to scream "Mandarin!" > > Plus it makes sense from a narrative standpoint. In IM, Tony fought > Obadiah Stane, who engaged him as a businessman. In IM2, he fought > Ivan Vanko, who engaged him as an engineer. So in IM3, he can fight > Mandarin, who engages him as a "world shaper," a mover and shaker who > can influence the world around him. And the parallels work: Obadiah > was the worst of capitalism, seeking only power and control (rather > than providing goods and services to make the world better), Ivan was > only out to destroy (rather than create), and Mandarin would be out to > dominate and enslave, rather than provide freedom and liberty. > > I have spent too much time thinking about this, being, as I have said, > a huge Iron Fan. But I think you can make this work as a blowoff to > the trilogy of Shellhead movies. > > > > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Jul 19 02:02PM -0400 ^ > > If they did the skull invasion like in the Ultimates (the comic, not the > watered down animated feature), that would be teh Awesome! > > Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless > > -----Original message----- > From: Jason Service <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 17:15:18 GMT+00:00 > Subject: Re: [The Unique Geek] Re: Avengers! > > i'm with ya. Skrulls, meh. I mean you can make a cosmic invasion film, and > that can be great, but that isn't what the Avengers really is...at least it > isn't to me. > > Iron Man stories seemed to hint at Mandarin. But a dude with 10 rings that > have magical powers seems...lame. Not too sure where it will go, but i have > high hopes! > > > > Cary Preston <[email protected]> Jul 19 02:04PM -0400 ^ > > Loki+Cosmic Cube. That might be enough, although I wouldn't be surprised if > they used the Skrulls as a 'henchman' for the main baddie. > > > > Cary Preston <[email protected]> Jul 19 02:05PM -0400 ^ > > The best Avengers villain is and always will be Ultron. > > > > Topic: DC Comics Launches Android App With Help From ComiXology - Droid-Life > Edward Crosby <[email protected]> Jul 19 01:34PM -0400 ^ > > http://bit.ly/r6NWr9 > > ---------------------------------------- > Have a Better One, > Edward Crosby > http://about.me/edwardcrosby > > > Topic: Lee, DiDio: Rebuilding the DCU is response to Shrinking Market > Luke <[email protected]> Jul 19 10:25AM -0700 ^ > > The Incredible Shrinking Comic Book Market! Someone call The Atom! > > http://www.newsarama.com/comics/dcnu-didio-lee-talk-new-52-110719.html > > The main thing which so far has left a sour taste in my mouth of this > relaunch is the overhauling of Superman, especially in light of the > fact that Batman himself is evidently not changing in any significant > way (obviously some of the Batfamily are). I am not interested in > reading this alien, aloof, lonely stranger version of Superman which > they have hyped up. I'm sorry, but I am not. Superman is one of us > despite his origins. At least that's the Superman I am interested in > reading about. > > I mean you want to overhaul someone like Captain Atom or Hawk & Dove > or Hawkman, sure, they deserve it because clearly they have some kinks > which need to be fixed. But to so radically overhaul Superman -- and > not in the way that Byrne and company did in the 80s, which was to > update the existing elements, but in this sort of modernist, "make him > edgy because Truth Justice And The American Way are lame" approach -- > says that they do not have any faith in the character which created > this whole genre. And that makes me nervous for the whole shebang. > > > Topic: gphangouts Lists Public Google+ Hangouts for You to Join - Lifehacker > Edward Crosby <[email protected]> Jul 19 10:55AM -0400 ^ > > Cool. > > http://lifehac.kr/p9cZAj > > Of course, if we're not careful this could turn into a different version of > Chatroulette. > > ---------------------------------------- > Have a Better One, > Edward Crosby > http://about.me/edwardcrosby > > > Luke <[email protected]> Jul 19 09:51AM -0700 ^ > > I am not hip or with it but this Google+ seems to be getting it's legs > pretty quickly. Is it that much better than Facebook or is this the > result of Google's all-in push efforts? > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Unique Geek" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Unique Geek" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en.
