Let's not let a Red Herring draw us down the wrong path here Mr Crosby, Unique Geek Prime. From the story:
"Do you think the Starfire in the Teen Titans comic book is a good role model?" "Yes, too. She's still a good guy. Pretty, but she's helping others all the time and saving people." "What about this new Starfire?" "No, I don't think so." "Why not?" "Because she's not doing anything." So if you put this character in a situation where she if fighting 'bad guys', or just generally DOING SOMETHING instead of posing on a beach does this opinion change? I suspect it does...The young lady in the article may simply be saying she was bored with the new comic and the way that DC is establishing this character. I am not sure that the fact that she is being portrayed as scantily clad and shallow is why the 7 year old doesn't like this version of the character...just to be clear. On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Edward Crosby <[email protected]> wrote: > I think we're missing the point. > What I interpret from that ladies blog post is that her child sees how a > character is drawn and portrayed in the book as being a hero or not a hero. > Not that the comic is rated as mature or not. In this scenario the rating of > the book is beside the point. The point is that in the first issue of this > New 52 Red Hood book Starfire was portrayed as a brainless nympho who wore > very small pieces of clothing and the child interpreted it that Starfire is > no longer a hero. > True, it is way too soon for this lady to judge a book being that it is > only issue #1. But we should all think of the children. > Won't somebody please think of the children? > > ---------------------------------------- > Have a Better One, > Edward Crosby > http://about.me/edwardcrosby > > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Jason Service <[email protected]> wrote: > >> DC's tweets make me wonder...What is the rating for that issue? How >> many issues are rated for mature and how many are rated for all audiences? >> >> Does it make sense to publish a book rated for mature audiences when they >> had a cartoon that had a significant viewership on Cartoon Network that was >> aimed at kids? I know Batman-Brave & Bold is on cartoon Network also and i >> have no idea what the new Batman book is rated either, but with Bats, you >> can have a general audience comic AND you can have a mature audience comic >> in my estimation. >> >> I think that the bottom line here is that if kids are going to read >> comics, parents need to be aware of what they are reading and agree to a >> book based on what they know or believe that their child can understand and >> enjoy. Many kids love horror stories and if the parent approves, so be it. >> >> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Luke Jaconetti <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> First off, I added Shag's comment from the other thread below. >>> >>> Now then: Thanks for the responses, Michael and Shag. Like I said I >>> don't know much about Starfire. Reading the article about the little >>> girl's distaste with the new take on her was very insightful. But I >>> think Shag makes a good point as well, that maybe this will be a >>> character arc for Starfire. >>> >>> I did want to say that I thought Wonder Woman was an excellent book >>> starring a female hero, but the horror elements of the book make it >>> fairly inappropriate for a 7 year old girl. >>> >>> Check out these tweets from DC this morning: >>> >>> @DCComics: We've heard what's being said about Starfire today and we >>> appreciate the dialogue on this topic. >>> @DCComics: We encourage people to pay attention to the ratings when >>> picking out any books to read themselves or for their children. >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> >>> >Shag said: >>> I agree with Bailey that Starfire was a sexpot from the start, but >>> toned down compared to this version. I also really liked the 7 year >>> old girl's interpretation of the new Starfire. Great article. >>> >>> >>> Now for a little devil's advocate... it's only been one issue. They >>> had 20 pages to explore several different characters. It's possible >>> they will develop Starfire further in the next couple issues. >>> >>> >>> On Sep 27, 6:48 pm, Michael Bailey <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Well, Julia Newmar was fairly spectacular no matter what she dressed >>> like. >>> > She could wear a burlap sack and I'd be down with that. >>> > >>> > As for Starfire, the character was a sexpot from the beginning. She >>> wasn't >>> > a hyper cosplay sex addict but she had a huge rack and liked getting >>> naked. >>> > She was also a well developed character that had a sense of honor and >>> was a >>> > true warrior. So she might have been scanitly clad but she had a >>> > personality too. The Teen Titans animated series wasn't terrible but >>> after >>> > seeing the first episode I felt like someone took my favorite mom and >>> pop >>> > pizza place and turned it into a Chuck E Cheese. >>> > >>> > Having said that I agree with the sentiment from that cartoon even if I >>> > think it is misrepresenting Starfire just a tad. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Luke Jaconetti <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > > Also, let me state that I do not like "amnesia sex addict" Starfire >>> or >>> > > "hyper cosplay sex addict" Catwoman. The Starfire I like is from the >>> > > cartoon, and the Catwoman I like is played by Julie Newmar. >>> > >>> > > Julie Newmar was sexy as all get out as Catwoman and we didn't need >>> > > tight closeups of her boobs and butt. >>> > >>> > > On Sep 27, 4:53 pm, Luke Jaconetti <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > > > I was going to post the Shortpacked! comic that is embedded in the >>> > > > article. >>> > >>> > > > Don't tear me down over this, but wasn't the animated Starfire >>> about >>> > > > 180 degrees away from how Starfire has pretty much always been >>> > > > portrayed in the comics? Wasn't she always depicted as a sexpot >>> > > > dating back to her debut? I have never read New Teen Titans but I >>> > > > seem to remember hearing a hew and cry from the old school Titans >>> fans >>> > > > that animated Starfire was "wrong." So maybe I am way off base; if >>> so >>> > > > I would love to hear more about her. >>> > >>> > > > Don't get me wrong: I LIKE animated Starfire. I like all of the >>> > > > animated Teen Titans -- the only incarnation of the team I have >>> ever >>> > > > liked. And I would love to see THAT Starfire in the mainstream >>> DCU. >>> > > > But is her being a sexpot really a "change" in the status quo for >>> her? >>> > >>> > > > On Sep 27, 4:32 pm, [email protected] wrote: >>> > >>> > > > > Great read and I tear up for the kid... >>> > > > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile >>> > >>> > > > > -----Original Message----- >>> > > > > From: Edward Crosby <[email protected]> >>> > >>> > > > > Sender: [email protected] >>> > > > > Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:23:07 >>> > > > > To: TUG group<[email protected]>; < >>> > > [email protected]> >>> > > > > Reply-To: [email protected] >>> > > > > Subject: [The Unique Geek] A 7-year-old girl responds to DC C >>> > > > > omics’ sexed-up reboot of Starfire - io9 >>> > >>> > > > > I thought I would include the ladies over at Girls Gone Geek in >>> this >>> > > email >>> > > > > just in case they didn't see the post here on our listserv. >>> > > > > Saw this earlier today on G+ as shared by Felicia Day. Very much >>> an >>> > > > > eye-opener. >>> > >>> > > > >http://on.io9.com/r9aDTt >>> > >>> > > > > ---------------------------------------- >>> > > > > Have a Better One, >>> > > > > Edward Crosbyhttp://about.me/edwardcrosby >>> > >>> > > > > -- >>> > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>> Google >>> > > Groups "The Unique Geek" group. >>> > > > > To post to this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > > [email protected]. >>> > > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// >>> > > groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - >>> > >>> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >>> > >>> > > > - Show quoted text - >>> > >>> > > -- >>> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> > > "The Unique Geek" group. >>> > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > > [email protected]. >>> > > For more options, visit this group at >>> > >http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > This post/e-mail was written by Michael Bailey, Superman Apologist- >>> Hide quoted text - >>> > >>> > - Show quoted text - >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "The Unique Geek" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "The Unique Geek" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Unique Geek" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Unique Geek" group. 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