Some real talk.

An easy difference between promoting something you wrote yourself and the new 
iPad (for example) is that millions of people are going to buy tablet devices, 
and they're changing the way we interact with media and one another. It's 
completely relevant. 


It's cool to promote something you wrote yourself, you should be proud of it. 
Most people just consume and never create, but it's not cool to twist every 
conversation to serve those promotional needs or talk about yourself.


Post 1 -  Interesting new tablet out. May change how we interact with media? 
Will you get one or is it a fad?
Post 2-  I see people on the bus with these now. It seemed to happen overnight. 
Weird how that works. Not sure I'll ever stop using physical books, though
Post 3 - Woah, this is a great format for people to read my incredible new book 
published by the company I own. Here are some links, guys. Keep up the great 
discussion and keep reading books from my press.


It's just a matter of degree. 


Self-promotion should be a part of our discussions, we're all creative, 
exciting, vital people, but they should be labeled that way. No one wants to be 
that guy at the party who makes everything about him


Person 1 - I have an announcement... Julie has agreed to become my wife. We're 
getting married.
Person 2 - Congratulations! Much happiness
Person 3 - I remember when I met my wife. Why I thought she'd never look at me, 
but there I was working on what was to be the third of my eventual seven books, 
and she walked in, of course I was wearing clothes I bought from my brother's 
store, you should get your suit there, but then she looked up, and I....(three 
more hours and four more drinks - Julie never mentioned)


Trumpet your podcasts. Revel in the awards your friends give you from 
organizations you control. Crow all you want, but keep it separate. 


It was wrong of me to use Shag's announcement re: his Newsarama win as a forum 
for this discussion. That was a notable achievement, and he deserved a longer 
tail of congratulations.


So, keep poddin', keep writin', keep reviewin' but keep it separate. 


 





-----Original Message-----
From: Shag <[email protected]>
To: theuniquegeek <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Oct 7, 2012 9:18 am
Subject: Re: [The Unique Geek] People


Cary,

No worries. You are probably our most prolific poster and we'd be lot without 
you. And you are still the most dangerous man in podcasting. :)

Shag


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On Oct 7, 2012, at 9:56 AM, Cary Preston <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hey! I make an effort too!
> On Oct 7, 2012, at 9:54 AM, Van <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Thank you for your insights, Serv.
>> 
>> From my perspective, I don't really think of most of those posts as 
"self-promotion," though I suppose I can see how others here would take them 
that way. I see post after post here talking about the many benefits of the 
latest cell phone or pad or other tech device, most of which I couldn't care 
less about. I see that as incessant promotion of items for sale that I don't 
want to read about, and if I were on regular emails here I would delete them 
unread. As it is, I just scroll past them in the digest.
>> 
>> I never "blast emails" anywhere. What you're thinking of is when I send an 
email to this group and to the Pulp Factory and maybe copy in a friend in 
Virginia. Hardly an email "blast" that lacks consideration for whether I think 
the recipients want to receive it or not. I've been assuming you guys, being 
proud geeks like me, would be INTERESTED in such things. As a small-press 
author 
who writes things geeks tend to like, I assumed you all would be as interested 
in a new SF book by me, or a podcast on a subject you might be interested in, 
as 
in a new cell phone. 
>> 
>> In other words, if I do a podcast with RevSF or with ESO, I figure it's 
likely something some of you might be interested in or would want to know 
about. 
Just as I want to hear about Mike's and Shag's productions.
>> 
>> The reason I joined this group, and the only reason I've stayed, was to 
receive such information about the activities of Mike and Shag. Coming aboard, 
I 
assumed much of the traffic here would be about the newest Long Box episodes, 
etc.  So, similarly, i assumed my own postings about such activities would be 
welcomed and valued. Clearly I was very wrong, and I apologize.
>> 
>> Since this board is not remotely serving the needs I came to it with--I 
>> never 
get the desired info from those guys-- and since I've proven to be a real 
problem here with the choices I've made on it, I'll sign off. 
>> 
>> No hard feelings. I just misunderstood the purpose of this group.
>> 
>> By the way, Luke has been by far the best thing here. Y'all should be WAY 
nicer to him. Most days, he's the only one really making an effort.
>> 
>> Ravenface is a joke. But y'all already knew that.
>> 
>> --Van
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