Thanks Pat.

I'll take a closer look at the logs.


I asked about the index vs rebuild because I wanted to have monit
restart sphinx if it crashes (its been segfaulting lately on centOS),
but I don't want monit to prematurely start it during a rebuild. I'll
take a closer look.

On Feb 17, 5:18 pm, "Pat Allan" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 18/02/2012, at 5:18 AM, gmoniey wrote:
>
> > Thanks Pat,
>
> > In regards to speed, is there anything I can do, or is it just a
> > limitation of sphinx? Also, any idea why the db is getting hit so
> > hard. I haven't got a chance to look into the logs yet to see if its
> > running any slows queries, but I would imagine its just reads.
> > Whenever the indexer is running, I see a lot of DB timeouts from other
> > services, so I can't help but feel that something is up.
>
> Generally it should be just reads - the only case where it's not is when 
> you're using deltas, and then it's just a single UPDATE and the rest are 
> SELECTs. I'd recommend looking at the generated query and trying to determine 
> why it's slow. Also worth checking that you have database indices on any 
> foreign keys being used by joins in the generated SQL.
>
> > Also, in regards to changing the structure of my indexes, so I need to
> > run rebuild, or can I just configure and restart (i.e. must I reindex
> > before restarting with a new config file)?
>
> You could configure and index, and *then* restart, but I've heard that's not 
> quite reliable. So, I'd recommend rebuild when there's a structure change - 
> treat it the same as you would a database change, put up a temporary 
> maintenance page. It shouldn't be a common occurrence.
>
> Cheers
>
> --
> Pat
>
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> > Thanks.
>
> > On Feb 17, 3:21 am, "Pat Allan" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> It's best to use the ts:index task in cron, because all that does is 
> >> reindex the data. ts:rebuild stops Sphinx, reindexes, and *then* restarts 
> >> Sphinx - and you really don't need to restart Sphinx except when the 
> >> structure of your indices change (you've added an index to another model, 
> >> or added a new field or attribute to an existing model, a new config 
> >> setting, etc).
>
> >> So, I'd recommend switching to ts:index - although it won't be much 
> >> different in speed (starting/stopping Sphinx won't take much time), but 
> >> it'll mean people can still search while the indexing is happening.
>
> >> --
> >> Pat
>
> >> On 17/02/2012, at 7:52 PM, gmoniey wrote:
>
> >>> For the past few years, I have had a cron job that wakes up around
> >>> 4am, and runs the ts:rebuild rake task. Unfortunately, the size of all
> >>> of my indexes has grown significantly, and this job takes about 40-60
> >>> minutes, and the load on the database is pretty significant. I'm
> >>> indexing roughly 2-3 million records (some of which have pretty
> >>> detailed indexes defined).
>
> >>> I've read on some blogs the index/reindex is significantly faster than
> >>> rebuild, but haven't been able to find any formal documentation
> >>> mentioning that.
>
> >>> Do I have any other options?
>
> >>> Thanks.
>
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