Thanks Pat and sorry for late reply - got caught up with the holidays 
(Happy New Year!).  For the new support maybe something like:

define_index do
.
.
.
  enable_delta do
     #put delta-specific settings here
  end
end

Thanks again!

Johann

On Sunday, December 23, 2012 9:11:22 AM UTC+8, Pat Allan wrote:
>
> Hi Johann
>
> Yeah, currently there's no way to have settings just for the delta index. 
> TS's DSL doesn't allow for it… I'm open to suggestions on how it could, but 
> this would very likely be something that I add to TS 3, not earlier 
> versions.
>
> You could just set the sql_range_step to be quite large generally? May not 
> have too much of an impact for full indexing (indeed, in some situations 
> can speed things up).
>
> Cheers
>
> -- 
> Pat
>
> On 19/12/2012, at 3:38 PM, Johann Tagle wrote:
>
> > I guess the solution for me is to add an sql_range_step with a high 
> value in the source definition of the delta.  Hmmm maybe it would be good 
> if TS can allow index configuration settings for main and delta.
> > 
> > On Monday, December 17, 2012 5:58:48 PM UTC+8, Johann Tagle wrote:
> > Our setup:
> > 
> > - multiple app servers, no sphinx installed.
> > - one dedicated server running sphinx
> > - TS is still used to generated the sphinx config file, then loaded to 
> the sphinx server
> > - TS will set delta=1 for new/updated records, but we let cron jobs on 
> the sphinx server do the full and delta index updating
> > 
> > Everything is working, except I see an inefficiency with the way the 
> delta index is updated for one model.  This model has around 5M records, 
> with about 10k being updated daily.  Just before writing this, I ran the 
> statement defined by sql_query_range and saw that the values for the min 
> and max ids are at the opposite extremes, meaning the delta reindexing will 
> practically scan through the whole table when there are just 5k records 
> with delta=1.  We indexed the delta column and so doing a simple "select * 
> from table where delta=1" is quite fast.
> > 
> > Is there anything we can put within define_index or somewhere so that it 
> will generate the config for the delta source to not use ranged queries?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Johann
> > 
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