Hi Ngan

How often is it recurring now that it's returned?

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Pat

On 12/09/2013, at 4:44 PM, Ngan wrote:

> Hey Pat,
> 
> Just had the "no enabled local indexes to search" come back again (after a 
> while of not seeing it after deploy).  Any thoughts on why this is still 
> happening?
> 
> Thanks,
> Ngan
> 
> On Monday, August 12, 2013 9:24:01 AM UTC-7, Ngan wrote:
> You are awesome!  Thanks!
> 
> I've deployed to production and everything works great.  I'll be keeping an 
> eye out for my original problem of errors on deployment.
> 
> Can't wait for 2.1.1 :-)
> 
> On Monday, August 12, 2013 5:08:54 AM UTC-7, Pat Allan wrote:
> The change was pretty simple: 
> https://github.com/pat/thinking-sphinx/commit/d5249ea0215128d5d1f916ee42882932ddb86ba7
>  
> 
> To use it (for the 2.x releases of Thinking Sphinx): 
> 
>   gem 'thinking-sphinx', '~> 2.1.0', 
>     :git    => 'git://github.com/pat/thinking-sphinx.git', 
>     :branch => 'v2', 
>     :ref    => '64da4dc7ff' 
> 
> And then in an initialiser: 
> 
>   ThinkingSphinx.persistence_enabled = false 
> 
> Will be keen to hear if everything returns to normal for you! 
> 
> On 12/08/2013, at 12:19 AM, Ngan Pham wrote: 
> 
> > I see... 
> > 
> > So I've tested it out and it's a bit of a disaster for my situation. Some 
> > search requests are getting dropped and the server that runs sphinx is 
> > hitting memory limits. I could, in theory, solve the problem by increasing 
> > ram, how ever we have fallback servers...and it would suck to have to 
> > increase those as well.  I'll do some research on how people handle large 
> > sphinx requests...like airbnb. 
> > 
> > As for my 2 cents: I never felt that there was that much of an issue with 
> > the cost of opening a connection to sphinx for every request. It is very 
> > fast for us currently, and shaving 50-80% off something that already only 
> > takes milliseconds while trading for more memory usage and less scalability 
> > isn't worth for me specifically. It would awesome if you added a 
> > configuration option to disable persistent connections! I will buy you a 
> > beer! :) 
> > 
> >> On Aug 10, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Pat Allan <[email protected]> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> And the benefit is faster query times - the socket isn't being 
> >> setup/cleaned up on every single search request. From the quick testing I 
> >> did back when I made this change, this made a noticeable difference with 
> >> Sphinx query times (no numbers at hand, but I think it was at least a 50% 
> >> improvement, if not closer to 80%). 
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> Pat 
> >> 
> >>> On 11/08/2013, at 3:15 PM, Ngan Pham wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> Hm…I was afraid of that… 
> >>> So, we have 9 application servers with 10-20 processes each.  At high 
> >>> traffic times, we'd be seeing 181 processes for searchd?  Won't that blow 
> >>> memory up like crazy?  Is this normally something that everyone deals 
> >>> with? 
> >>> 
> >>> Just curious…what are the benefits of persisted connection pools? 
> >>> 
> >>> As always, thanks for the quick response Pat! 
> >>> 
> >>> - Ngan 
> >>>> On Saturday, August 10, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Pat Allan wrote: 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Hi Ngan 
> >>>> 
> >>>> There's not really any documentation around the changes, I'm afraid… but 
> >>>> what you're seeing is a process per thread of your app, plus a master 
> >>>> daemon process, due to the persisted connection pool. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> All the logic for this connection pool can be found in 
> >>>> ThinkingSphinx::Connection: 
> >>>> https://github.com/pat/thinking-sphinx/blob/v2/lib/thinking_sphinx/connection.rb
> >>>>  
> >>>> 
> >>>> The HISTORY file has a list of all relevant changes though - here's the 
> >>>> list of what's changed between 2.0.14 and 2.1.0 - but this and some 
> >>>> delta refactoring are the biggest items: 
> >>>> 
> >>>> * Removed plugin support - Thinking Sphinx is now gem-only across all 
> >>>> branches. 
> >>>> * ThinkingSphinx::Version and the thinking_sphinx:version task have been 
> >>>> removed - it's a gem, it has a version number. 
> >>>> * Updating Riddle to 1.5.6 or newer. 
> >>>> * Requires ActiveRecord ~> 2.1 for TS 1.x releases (earlier versions 
> >>>> were considered unsupported a few releases ago). 
> >>>> * Allow custom Riddle controllers - useful for Flying Sphinx to take 
> >>>> over management of Sphinx daemon/indexing actions. 
> >>>> * Rejigged delta support to be generic, with local job classes that 
> >>>> provide a clean, simple interface for third-party libraries. 
> >>>> * Add hooks for anything that needs to happen before indexing (such as 
> >>>> clearing out existing delta jobs). 
> >>>> * Connection pool for all Sphinx client communication, with new 
> >>>> connections built if there's any connection-related (as opposed to 
> >>>> syntax) issues. 
> >>>> * Multiple-field search conditions can be done with arrays of field 
> >>>> names as keys in the :conditions hash (Alex Dowad). 
> >>>> * Removed named capture in regular expressions to maintain MRI 1.8 
> >>>> support (Michael Wintrant). 
> >>>> * Support new JDBC configuration style (Kyle Stevens). 
> >>>> 
> >>>> -- 
> >>>> Pat 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On 11/08/2013, at 2:39 PM, Ngan wrote: 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Hi Pat, 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Thanks for the help. I tried upgrading to 2.1.0...and I'm noticing 
> >>>>> multiple instance of searched running now. Is that normal? Would you be 
> >>>>> able to point me to documentation of major changes with 2.1.0? 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Thanks, 
> >>>>> Ngan 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> On Friday, August 9, 2013 7:57:51 AM UTC-7, Pat Allan wrote: 
> >>>>> Hi Ngan 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> In 2.1.0 there's been some patches that deal with these kinds of errors 
> >>>>> - TS will now retry searches if an error crops up on the client 
> >>>>> connection (which is also persisted per thread in a connection pool, 
> >>>>> saving socket setup/teardown time). If an error crops up, a new 
> >>>>> connection is made, but if the error persists, it'll still get raised… 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Give 2.1.0 a spin, see if that helps matters. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> -- 
> >>>>> Pat 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> On 09/08/2013, at 10:46 PM, Ngan wrote: 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Forgot to add the trace: 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> gems/thinking-sphinx-2.0.14/lib/thinking_sphinx/search.rb:438:in 
> >>>>>> `block in populate' 
> >>>>>> gems/thinking-sphinx-2.0.14/lib/thinking_sphinx/search.rb:606:in 
> >>>>>> `call' 
> >>>>>> gems/thinking-sphinx-2.0.14/lib/thinking_sphinx/search.rb:606:in 
> >>>>>> `retry_on_stale_index' 
> >>>>>> gems/thinking-sphinx-2.0.14/lib/thinking_sphinx/search.rb:426:in 
> >>>>>> `populate' 
> >>>>>> gems/thinking-sphinx-2.0.14/lib/thinking_sphinx/search.rb:104:in 
> >>>>>> `to_a' 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> On Friday, August 9, 2013 5:45:55 AM UTC-7, Ngan wrote: 
> >>>>>> Hi, 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> We reindex our entire index pretty often (once every 3 minutes) 
> >>>>>> because we have a pretty small data collection and we don't want to 
> >>>>>> use delayed delta. I notice however, that every once in a while, when 
> >>>>>> we deploy our application and it happens to be the same time the 
> >>>>>> reindexing is about to rotate, we'll get this error "no enabled local 
> >>>>>> indexes to search" every time we hit sphinx there afterwards. When 
> >>>>>> this happens, we have to restart our app so that it picks up the new 
> >>>>>> indexes. We are reindexing with rotate so the existing index should 
> >>>>>> still be there and the rotation should be seamless. Any ideas on why 
> >>>>>> this happens? And if there's anything to do about it? 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Thanks, 
> >>>>>> Ngan 
> >>>>>> 
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