Interesting!

I saw real-time indexing but then I saw this on 
https://devcenter.heroku.com/articles/flying_sphinx#delta-indexing-ruby-only:

*"Please note:* at this point in time, Flying Sphinx does not yet support 
Sphinx’s realtime indices. If you’d like this feature, please contact Flying 
Sphinx support <http://support.flying-sphinx.com>."

So is that note outdated? Or am I currently talking to Flying Sphinx 
support? :)

As for the backup situation, am I correct in hearing you as saying that I 
basically would need to run ts:generate each time the server starts up? 
That doesn't seem horrible. My current indices only take a few seconds to 
build. I'm new to Heroku though -- is there any way to automate that 
process? I imagine there would be...

Then, for the capbilities of realtime indices, I'm assuming they're 
basically a superset of regular indices? Put another way, we can use the 
same index file, but just add 

:with => :real_time?

Thanks, Pat, for all you do.

Tom


On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:13:58 AM UTC-4, Pat Allan wrote:
>
> Hi Tom
>
> The worker dyno is *not* included in the $55, and there’s no way to use 
> delta indices with the Wooden plan.
>
> I realise that means there’s a *significant* jump in cost if you want to 
> use deltas - I spent a lot of time working through the numbers to make sure 
> the servers would be powerful enough at each level and the plans reasonably 
> priced when I first got Flying Sphinx off the ground, but I just couldn’t 
> find a way to have the resources required for delta indexing at such a low 
> price point.
>
> An alternative, though, is to switch to real-time indices. They can be 
> used with any plan level, the extra overhead from a Flying Sphinx 
> perspective is minimal, and they *don’t* require a worker dyno. The one 
> catch is that Flying Sphinx does not back up real-time data, as backups are 
> tied to processing of indices, and that doesn’t apply with real-time 
> indices. I do plan to fix this situation, it’s just a bit complex, but I’ll 
> hopefully get to it soon. That said, crashes are reasonably infrequent 
> (*touch wood*) on the Wooden plans, and almost non-existent on the higher 
> plans.
>
> … here’s hoping I’ve not pushed my luck too far with the server gods…
>
> To recap: deltas with a Wooden plan is sadly not possible (as much as I 
> wish it could be) but real-time indices are definitely worth looking into.
>
> Any further questions, do let me know.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> — 
> Pat
>
> On 11 Sep 2014, at 12:54 am, Tom Smyth <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
> Hi there. I'm wondering about the cost of delta indexing on Heroku. The 
> Flying Sphinx add-on says the 'Ceramic' plan is the cheapest one to support 
> delta indexing, but it's $55/mo vs $12/mo for the 'Wooden' plan. Is this 
> because of the requirement for a worker dyno? That is to say:
>
>    1. is the cost of the extra worker dyno mentioned here 
>    
> <https://devcenter.heroku.com/articles/flying_sphinx#delta-indexing-ruby-only>
>  
>    included in the $55/mo, or
>    2. is the cost of the worker dyno *on top of* the $55, or
>    3. can you actually do delta indexing using ts-resque-delta with the 
>    Wooden plan?
>
> Thanks!
>
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