Hi David

If you’re symlinking the directory, then that’s just for persisting files - it 
doesn’t influence the path that Thinking Sphinx generates (it’s still using the 
default, which has the release in the path). So, I think setting 
indices_location is the best approach here.

— 
Pat

On 12 Nov 2014, at 12:06 am, David Krmpotic <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi, it's me again...
> 
> I bumped into an issue with this recommended approach...
> 
> See I get configuration like this:
> 
> log = /var/www/tb/shared/log/production.searchd.log
> 
>   query_log = /var/www/tb/shared/log/production.searchd.query.log
> 
>   pid_file = /var/www/tb/shared/log/production.sphinx.pid
> 
>   workers = threads
> 
>   binlog_path = /var/www/tb/shared/tmp/binlog/production
> 
> 
> 
> which is good, but see indices path:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> path = /var/www/tb/releases/33/db/sphinx/production/post_core
> 
> 
> 
> not sure why these expanded to point to a specific release instead of 
> /var/www/tb/shared/db/sphinx/....
> 
> db/sphinx is symlinked to  /var/www/tb/shared/db/sphinx/
> 
> 
> 
> so this setup works until I deploy more than 5 times and the release gets 
> deleted (I keep last 5 versions), after that the indices path points to 
> non-existing folder.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 10:35:06 PM UTC+1, David Krmpotic wrote:
> actually you're right, of course... if I keep it there, then I don't even 
> have to add indices setting etc.
> 
> I thought about this before but for some reason didn't think that I could 
> symlink just db/sphinx, not the entire db directory.. not sure why I thought 
> that.
> 
> ok, great, this is it..
> regards
> david
> 
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 10:30 PM, David Krmpotic <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> I see. The only thing is that then I have duplication. I only want this:
> 
> set :deploy_to, '/var/www/tb'
> 
> to be specified in the deploy file and nowhere else.
> 
> So I'll keep it like this.... yes your suggestion about db/sphinx is good but 
> I think I don't quite like it there because this would the be the only thing 
> of this kind that is not either in /tmp or /log ... when looking for it 
> earlier, I first checked those two places and then found out that it actually 
> lived in db.... It could be either way, maybe I'll put it back there :)
> 
> THANK YOU
> david
> 
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 10:25 PM, Pat Allan <[email protected]> wrote:
> I’d only be putting in these custom settings for production/staging 
> environments, and leave development using the defaults.
> 
> As for shared paths, I guess you could symlink it - I think Sphinx will work 
> fine in that scenario too. Not sure I’d put it in tmp from a semantics 
> perspective, but maybe instead have db/sphinx symlinked as well.
> 
> — 
> Pat
> 
> On 29 Oct 2014, at 8:18 am, David Krmpotic <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> and also in the future I or someone else may deploy it into some other 
>> directory on their server.. but with mina it's common practice to just set 
>> this:
>> 
>> set :shared_paths, ['config/database.yml', '.env', '.ruby-version', 'tmp', 
>> 'log', 'config/production.sphinx.conf']
>> 
>> PS: pid and logs already work correctly because they are placed in /log 
>> directory which is symlinked to /shared/log
>> 
>> only index wasn't ok sitting in the /db .. and generated config file (well 
>> that would be regenerated if missing, but still now it's better)
>> 
>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 10:14 PM, David Krmpotic <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> hmm what about on my local machine then? There is different.. that's what 
>> was bothering me...
>> 
>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Pat Allan <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> Hi David
>> 
>> In this situation, I would do the following instead:
>> 
>>   indices_location: /var/www/tb/shared/sphinx
>> 
>> Thus, no symlinks, and the location for the Sphinx files wouldn’t change.
>> 
>> You’d want to do the same thing for log and pid files as well :)
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> — 
>> Pat
>> 
>> On 29 Oct 2014, at 7:58 am, David Krmpotic <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Pat,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for fast response... I have /tmp already linked to a shared 
>>> directory on each release (I'm using 
>>> https://github.com/mina-deploy/mina)... also production.sphinx.conf is 
>>> symlinked
>>> 
>>> so:
>>> /var/www/tb/current/tmp -> /var/www/tb/shared/tmp
>>> /var/www/tb/current/production.sphinx.conf -> 
>>> /var/www/tb/shared/config/production.sphinx.conf
>>> 
>>> Is this what you ment or is there even more optimal way? Because here I'm 
>>> using shared directories and it works nicely.
>>> 
>>> In thinking_sphinx.yml I now use:
>>> 
>>> indices_location: "<%= Rails.root %>/tmp/sphinx"
>>> 
>>> regards,
>>> david
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Pat Allan <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi David
>>> 
>>> Sorry, the docs there should be more clear - RAILS_ROOT is just a 
>>> placeholder for people to put their own app directory in. It’s not a magic 
>>> variable that gets replaced within the TS code. You *can* use ERB within 
>>> thinking_sphinx.yml, but in this case that wouldn’t quite work, because you 
>>> really shouldn’t have these files within the app’s current Rails.root - 
>>> they need to be in a shared directory.
>>> 
>>> I would avoid the need for symlinks, and just use shared folders instead.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> — 
>>> Pat
>>> 
>>> On 29 Oct 2014, at 6:22 am, David Krmpotic <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> david@eclipse:~/Projects/tb (master)$ bundle exec rake ts:configure
>>>> 
>>>> Generating configuration to 
>>>> /Users/david/Projects/tb/config/development.sphinx.conf
>>>> 
>>>> david@eclipse:~/Projects/tb (master)$ cat config/development.sphinx.conf | 
>>>> grep RAILS
>>>> 
>>>>   path = RAILS_ROOT/tmp/sphinx/post_core
>>>> 
>>>>   path = RAILS_ROOT/tmp/sphinx/post_delta
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 8:20:54 PM UTC+1, David Krmpotic wrote:
>>>> Pat, thank you for the fast response...
>>>> 
>>>> Actually in this case I'm at fault because of my new deployment strategy 
>>>> the sphinx folder with indices got stranded on each deploy... now I want 
>>>> to symlink it but I'm having some trouble with this:
>>>> 
>>>> http://pat.github.io/thinking-sphinx/advanced_config.html
>>>> 
>>>> it says I can use:
>>>> 
>>>> indices_location: "RAILS_ROOT/tmp/sphinx"
>>>> 
>>>> in thinking_sphinx.yml but this doesn't get expanded in generated sphinx 
>>>> configuration files....
>>>> 
>>>> So how can I use RAILS_ROOT there and is the manual outdated?
>>>> 
>>>> thank you
>>>> 
>>>> On Sunday, October 26, 2014 5:01:52 AM UTC+1, Pat Allan wrote:
>>>> Hi David
>>>> 
>>>> In recent versions of Thinking Sphinx (v3.1.1 definitely, and I think 
>>>> 3.1.0 too) guard files are put in place while indexing occurs, to avoid an 
>>>> index being processed multiple times at once. Unfortunately, these guard 
>>>> files aren't cleared out when an exception is raised during indexing... 
>>>> have a look in the folder of your index files, should be easy enough to 
>>>> spot.
>>>> 
>>>> In the upcoming v3.1.2 release, there'll be better logging to note if 
>>>> these guard files are blocking indexing requests, and they'll also be 
>>>> cleared out if an exception is raised.
>>>> 
>>>> — 
>>>> Pat
>>>> 
>>>> On 25 Oct 2014, at 5:49 pm, David Krmpotic <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi, I use TS 3.1.1 and Sphinx 2.2.5 on the server and this is my index 
>>>>> definition:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ThinkingSphinx::Index.define :post, with: :active_record, delta: true do
>>>>>   indexes :text
>>>>>   indexes :tags
>>>>>   
>>>>>   has :user_id
>>>>>   has :created_at
>>>>> end
>>>>> 
>>>>> After upgrading both TS and Sphinx every few days of webapp usage, I 
>>>>> notice that new records are no longer indexed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I checked and they are really not in the sphinx post_core or post_delta 
>>>>> indices.
>>>>> 
>>>>> After reindexing and restarting sphinx, it's ok for a few days then the 
>>>>> same happens.
>>>>> 
>>>>> How to troubleshoot this further?
>>>>> 
>>>>> thank you
>>>>> david
>>>>> 
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