I think you missed the point of all the ThinkPad buyers who paid $75 to
DOWNGRADE back to XP.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "RBay" <canyonla...@gmail.com>
To: "Matt" <mwt...@ameritech.net>
Cc: <thinkpad@stderr.org>
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] 64 bit Vista


> Good grief, you guys don't think Microsoft is making these computers and
> software for you, do you?
>
> This is an enormous industry...  When VISTA came out, it made an
incredible
> amount of money for nearly everybody in the industry...
>
> 64 MB vs 4 GB.... Pshaw!!!    30 GB hard drives replaced by 500 GB  hard
> drives... soon to be replaced by 750 GB flash drives that require no
moving
> parts...
>
> This is about making money for manufacturers... for Microsoft... for
online
> retailers... for tech shops and Value Added Retailers all over the world..
>
> And you can afford it...
>
> So quityourbitchin, for it will never go your way...  We are all just
> players... complaining is OK but it changes nothing... Windows 98 is still
> available, but I'll bet no more than 2 percent of this forum use it any
> more...
>
> Sure there is Linux and Unix and Ubuntu... and all that other fluff... but
> look at the sales... negligible... and most of you sneak back to WXP or
> VISTA and cannot wait for Windows 7 or whatever they decide to call it.
>
> VISTA kept a lot of computer component manufacgturers alive... and that
> benefits you as well... keeps you from becomming bored.
>
> RayBay
>
>
>
> ________
>
> The problem with Socialism is that you
> eventually run out of other people's money.
>
> ..  ...   ....    .....     ......       .......        ........
Margaret
> Thatcher
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Matt <mwt...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
> > Same experience - RAM wise.
> >
> > Vista - One Gb at idle, XP Pro SP3 - 350Mb at idle.
> >
> > The Vista sidebar isn't worth the difference.
> >
> >
> >
> >  ----- Original Message -----
> >  From: Bruce Markowitz
> >  To: thinkpad@stderr.org ; Aryeh Goretsky (home)
> >  Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 10:52 PM
> >  Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] 64 bit Vista
> >
> >
> >   Operating system and background programs use about 1.2GB of RAM when
cold
> >  booted
> >
> >  That's a SIN. There was a time when you could run Win98 on 64MB very
> > nicely.
> >  Now it takes 1.2 gigs just to boot up.
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