Perhaps more than anything, this thread should be viewed as a call to
action for the existing PMC. Perhaps I don't know, since I'm also not
in on the "private" discussions, but it certainly feels like nothing
is being done at all. I wouldn't even be concerned about being a
committer if it wasn't for the fact that I have to be very annoying
to a David and Kevin to get my patches incorporated. Less tenacious
individuals have clearly attached a patch or two and then disappeared
for want of attention.
I think if we want this project to succeed in the long run, we need
to be active and responsive. If the people in charge are unwilling or
unable to do that, then I'd just appreciate it if they could hand it
off to those who will dedicate the time.
-Bryan
On Jan 2, 2009, at 2:51 AM, Upayavira wrote:
On Mon, 2008-12-29 at 16:40 +0100, Esteve Fernandez wrote:
On Sunday 28 December 2008 23:37:09 Ian Holsman wrote:
In general in an apache project, the process for getting people
commit
access is for an existing 'PMC' member to recognize the merits of an
individual and raise it on the private list, where it is
discussed. It
is discussed in private as some people may feel that the person
is not
ready yet, and saying that in public could discourage the
individual.
"nominating" the person on a public list is generally seen as
poor form,
as it might preempt the discussion, and lead to no response from the
project.
Sorry if my actions caused any trouble. I'm not a PMC member and
shouldn't
have nominated Bryan or Todd before asking about the process.
Not a problem. Given these discussions happen in private (one of
the few
things that does/should in the ASF), there's no way for those
outside to
know how they happen.
However, I'm still arguing for more reviewers/committers in
general, I think
Thrift's development is being hindered by the lack of people who
can act on
tickets, which leads to external people become frustrated and to not
participate more actively. For example, THRIFT-129 (the most
popular ticket)
was reported on 2008-09-02 and last updated on 2008-10-23, but nobody
committed the attached patch.
You may be right that Thrift needs new committers. However, that is an
issue that I will leave to the Thrift committers to discuss/address.
Upayavira
