Can you be more specific about what you consider "downward pressure"?
--David On 08/12/2010 12:16 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > It has come to my attention that this project has > made no effort to maintain its list of PPMC members. > A best-effort was made by Gavin McDonald to construct > that list from the subscriber base to thrift-private@ > which may be found here: > > http://incubator.apache.org/projects/thrift > > This project remains at a crossroads, and my personal > graduation vote based on the current trajectory would > not be favorable. > > Apache projects are not cathedrals, they are bazaars. > The committers on the project are facilitators, not > gatekeepers. Every person who has ever submitted a patch > to either jira or this mailing list should be encouraged by > the existing devs to become a committer on this project, > but that never happens here. Instead people fork, > like what happened with c-thrift. That is not goodness > from an Apache standpoint; it would be far better to > create a sandbox in the subversion tree for experimentation > by community members. > > Trunk should be treated as Commit-then-Review. It is > a-ok to break it, and anyone running trunk in production > better be prepared to deal with the fallout of that > decision. > > Look, cassandra came into Apache a year or so after > thrift did, and they have already graduated. Part of > the reason why they have been successful where thrift > has not is because the Facebook devs there were not > allowed to place downward pressure on the community > the way they have here. The sooner this community > starts routing around them, the more likely this > project has a chance of real success at Apache. > > I have asked for special permission from my colleagues > in the Incubator to experiment with processes designed > to get out of your way in as far as it is possible, > so there can be no excuses as to why Thrift is not > succeeding except for the fact that the devs have > not done an adequate job of growing the community. > I expect that permission to be granted very soon, > and would like those committers on this project > who still care about it to take advantage of this > special opportunity before it's too late. So far > Bryan is the only person I would trust to make an > IPMC member or serve as Chair for this project > should it pursue graduation, but if others start > showing more active interest I am more than happy > to consider them. > > >
