Hi Antti,

I don't understand how 1588 over OTN/SONET can solve the problem of 
transporting 1588 over an MPLS network. Are you saying all networks must use 
OTN or SONET? 

Thanks,
Shahram

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Pietilainen, Antti (NSN - FI/Espoo)
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 4:54 AM
To: ext Mikael Abrahamsson
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TICTOC] FW: 1588 over MPLS draft

Hi Mikael,

> More and more networks are built with DWDM optics being put directly
> into routers/switches, ie no OTN at all.

By no OTN at all, do you mean, eg. 10GE interface? Ethernet interfaces
should not require any changes to IETF protocols when Q13 is developing
the time profile even though IP and UDP protocols might be utilized.

As said earlier, the major IP/MPLS vendors are very well presented in
Q13, and therefore the IETF and IEEE802 standards have been respected
very well there (which, unfortunately cannot be said about some other
groups in ITU).

Best regards, Antti
 

-----Original Message-----
From: ext Mikael Abrahamsson [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 1:38 PM
To: Pietilainen, Antti (NSN - FI/Espoo)
Cc: ext Yaakov Stein; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TICTOC] FW: 1588 over MPLS draft

On Tue, 3 Aug 2010, Pietilainen, Antti (NSN - FI/Espoo) wrote:

> Tell me if Im wrong but I guess that the dominant client layer of, for

> example OTN, is MPLS. If one solves the MPLS case, then one solves the

> OTN case for a dominant proportion of OTN cases. On the other hand, if

> one solves timing over OTN without using the MPLS layer, then one does

> not need to solve how to carry time over MPLS whenever layer 1 is OTN.

More and more networks are built with DWDM optics being put directly
into 
routers/switches, ie no OTN at all. Future framers might be switchable 
between G.709(with FEC), 10GE WAN/LAN phy, and other framing standards, 
but this is not the case today.

So any packet standard addressed by this WG should look at doing the 
standard over packet (and not just MPLS, it should be over IPv4/IPv6 
which might be carried by MPLS, but this should not be a requirement).

-- 
Mikael Abrahamsson    email: [email protected]
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