Yaakov,

I agree with you. I only tried to point out that prior to thinking about NTP protocol improvement, the HW must be ready to profit from it - standard quartz at mainboard is very poor oscillator with unpredictable parameters taking into account changes of cabinet temperature.


As concerns, Rb, I use 10 MHz OCXO, just no problem to replace it by Rb unit. However, I don't expect significant improvement of system clock accuracy using 1*10^-11 Rb instead of 5*10^-9 OCXO.

        Vladimir


On 04/01/11 10:55, Yaakov Stein wrote:
Vladimir

Thanks for the links.

What I see is replacing the crystal on a PC-based NTP server with an OCXO.
I believe that most people are already using Rb clocks in NTP servers.

The question of interest is what is possible in the client.
We have run a lot of 1588 tests with various crystals and various network 
scenarios,
with both HW and SW timestamps, and with a proprietary clock recovery algorithm.
Based on these tests I think that maintaining 1 us for realistic networks and 
pure SW timestamps
is not realistic, even when the client has a decent local oscillator.

I will try running a few tests with standard NTPv4 and report to the list.

Y(J)S

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Vladimir Smotlacha
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 11:43
To: [email protected]
Subject: [TICTOC] NTP server oscillator issue

Hello,

I'd like to contribute to the discussion about improving computer clock
accuracy, that started yesterday at TICTOC meeting.

According to our experiments and evaluation of our NTP servers, very
important issue is computer oscillator stability. I replaced the quartz
14.318 MHz at mainboard by a OCXO. We use this hacks in more than 10
servers, both NTP and Time-stamp authorities. We reached system clock
accuracy few microseconds (PPS disciplined server) resp. less than 100
microseconds (Stratum-2 with primary NTP in the same LAN). Note: it is
objective time offset measurement outside the system. Offset reported in
   NTP log loopstats provides better numbers.

Some of these results are described in Cesnet technical reports

http://www.cesnet.cz/doc/techzpravy/2007/ntp-server/
   and
http://www.cesnet.cz/doc/techzpravy/2008/time-stamp-authority/


regards,

        Vladimir Smotlacha
        


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