On 12/5/2011 7:59 AM, Anthony Magee wrote:
> Hi Danny,
> 
> I was intentionally vague here to see what feedback arose.
> 
> So in my email, I neglected to mention that the Source Address I was
talking about modifying as a result of changing the contents of the
packet, is the Layer 2 Source MAC Address.
> 

Okay, that's a relief! I was concerned about IP addresses. I have no
clue what the affect of changing a MAC address would be.

> For a device to modify the contents of a packet, or in this case for
the higher layer entity to terminate the packet, and create a new
packet, in order to preserve normal networking rules, then in theory the
packet should use the address of the device that modified the packet.
> 
> If we have a case where 1588 PTP over Ethernet is being transported
within a pseudowire and MPLS LSP, and the only addresses modified are
the Layer 2 MAC Addresses(of the Layer 2 MAC Address encapsulated within
the PW and the Layer 2 MAC address of the Ethernet Transport for the
MPLS stack), would this cause any problems for NAT?

I don't know if the NAT cares about that but I'm only knowledgeable at
the IP address level.

Danny

> 
> Regards,
> 
> Anthony
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Danny Mayer [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: 05 December 2011 12:37
> To: Anthony Magee
> Cc: Yaakov Stein; [email protected]; Shahram Davari; '[email protected]'
> Subject: Re: [TICTOC] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-tictoc-1588overmpls-02.txt
> 
> On 11/29/2011 1:35 PM, Anthony Magee wrote:
>> Hi Yaakov,
>>
>> The layer violation issue is something which I believe needs further
> discussion.
>>
>> If a higher layer entity is placed inside a device and is used to act
> as the Transparent Clock i.e. calculating residence time and modifying the 
> correction field in the layer with which that higher layer entity is 
> associated, one could use an identifier such as a label, or a multicast 
> Destination address in order to address that higher layer entity, allowing it 
> to make the change without it being a layer violation. Then on the transmit 
> side, there is nothing specifically incorrect in a device modifying the 
> Source Address of the packet sent from a Transparent Clock within the scope 
> of IEEE 1588 and this would be needed in order to indicate that the device 
> has effectively created a new packet - however, the function of the node is 
> still that of a Transparent Clock.
>>
> 
> There would be all sorts of violations if you change the Source Address.
> NAT is bad enough without some other router also diddling with addresses. 
> Don't do that.
> 
> Danny
> 

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