TidBITS#814/30-Jan-06
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  If you've just purchased a new Intel-powered iMac, be aware that
  you may not be able to boot it from an external drive; Jonathan
  Rentzsch explains why. Also in this issue, Matt Neuburg reviews
  DropCopy and the new information manager Yojimbo from Bare Bones
  Software, we note a new repair program for 15-inch PowerBook G4s,
  and Geoff Duncan looks at Disney's acquisition of Pixar and what
  it might mean for the Mac community. Win a copy of SmileOnMyMac's
  browseback in DealBITS this week!

Topics:
    MailBITS/30-Jan-06
    DealBITS Drawing: SmileOnMyMac's browseback
    It's a Small World, After All
    Booting an Intel iMac from an External Drive
    Tools We Use: DropCopy
    Let Yojimbo Guard Your Information Castle
    Hot Topics in TidBITS Talk/30-Jan-06

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**PowerBook Repair Extension Targets RAM Problems** -- Apple
  recently announced the PowerBook G4 (15-inch 1.67/1.5GHz)
  Memory Slot Repair Extension Program (yes, that's the full title).
  The program addresses an issue that many PowerBook G4 owners have
  been experiencing where the lower memory slot would stop working.
  PowerBook G4 models manufactured between January 2005 and
  April 2005 are affected (serial numbers W8503xxxxxx through
  W8518xxxxxx); Apple will replace the memory slot and extend
  the warranty covering the repairs for two years. More specific
  information can be found at Apple's Web page about the program.
  [JLC]

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It's a Small World, After All
-----------------------------
  by Geoff Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

  The Walt Disney Company announced last week that it will be
  acquiring animation house Pixar in a $7.4 billion all-stock
  transaction (a nice return on Steve Jobs's original $10 million
  investment when he purchased Pixar from filmmaker George Lucas in
  1986). The deal has been approved by the boards of both companies,
  and is expected to be completed by mid-2006. Pixar President Ed
  Catmull will serve as the President of the new Pixar and Disney
  animation studios, and John Lasseter (considered by many to be
  the crown jewel of Pixar) will serve as Chief Creative Officer
  of the studios, as well as Principal Creative Advisor at Walt
  Disney Imagineering, where he'll contribute to Disney theme park
  attractions.

<http://corporate.disney.go.com/news/corporate/2006/2006_0124_pixar.html>
<http://corporate.pixar.com/releaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=185239>
<http://www.pixar.com/companyinfo/history/1986.html>

  And what of Pixar's iconic CEO Steve Jobs, also CEO of Apple
  Computer and in control of about half of Pixar's stock? He'll
  be joining Disney's Board of Directors as one of three non-
  independent members and, overnight, become Disney's largest
  shareholder, owning roughly 6.5 percent of Disney's stock.

  Pixar has developed several successful animated films distributed
  by Disney under a long-term deal, including Toy Story, Toy
  Story 2, A Bug's Life, Monsters, Inc., Finding Nemo, and The
  Incredibles, with total earnings from the films estimated near
  $3.2 billion. However, friction between Jobs and former Disney
  CEO Michael Eisner led Jobs to walk away from the original Disney
  distribution deal when it concludes this year with the release of
  Cars. Jobs apparently gets along well with Disney's current CEO
  Robert Iger and plans to spend a whole lot more time with him.

  The Disney acquisition brings Pixar's talent and unique culture
  into the Disney fold, and enables the House of Mouse to further
  leverage Pixar characters, stories, and creations through its many
  media and merchandising channels. For many Pixar employees, the
  deal may represent a bit of a dream come true: many of the
  storytelling and production values of classic Disney animated
  films initially inspired Pixar. However, the deal may complicate
  life for Steve Jobs's other day job at Apple Computer, where,
  as a member of Disney's board, he may face additional hurdles
  convincing other video content providers (Time Warner, NBC/
  Universal, CBS, etc.) to put their content up for sale on Apple's
  iTunes Music Store.

  At first glance, the merger might seem eerily reminiscent of
  Apple's acquisition of Jobs's NeXT, Inc., several months after
  which Jobs ousted Apple CEO Gil Amelio and took over Apple's
  troubled reins in 1997. Indeed, with Pixar's upper management
  being placed in charge of the combined Pixar and Disney animation
  studios, it might be easy to see this acquisition as a reverse
  takeover for Pixar, if not for Jobs personally. But the situation
  is significantly different. For one thing, Jobs didn't found
  Disney, so it's hard to see him having the same passion for
  Disney that he does for Apple. Further, despite a recent
  shareholder revolt led by Roy Disney against former CEO Michael
  Eisner, Disney is much more than its animation studios. In total,
  Disney garnered nearly $32 billion in revenue during 2005 from
  businesses including its own cable television channels, the ABC
  broadcast television network, half a dozen music labels, half
  a dozen more movie studios, plus theatrical productions, its
  world-famous theme parks, and - of course - vast merchandising.
  That said, none of this means Jobs won't have an impact: he's
  always been out to change the world, and with control of Apple
  and a board position at Disney, he's better placed to do so
  than ever before.


Booting an Intel iMac from an External Drive
--------------------------------------------
  by Jonathan Rentzsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

  When I received my new Intel-based iMac, I attempted to install
  Mac OS X on an external FireWire hard drive. Imagine my surprise
  when I hit a brick wall attempting this formerly simple task.
  While the Intel-based Macs are mostly compatible with older Macs,
  they change the Mac boot process in fundamental (and incompatible)
  ways.

<http://www.apple.com/imac/>

  The Intel-based Macs are the first Macs to use Intel's Extensible
  Firmware Interface (EFI). Originally intended to replace the PC's
  aging and unloved Basic Input Output System (BIOS), EFI has found
  its way into the new Macs, taking over for Open Firmware in
  PowerPC-based Macs.

  Tagging along with EFI is a new partition scheme: GUID Partition
  Table (GPT); GUID itself is an acronym, expanding to Globally
  Unique Identifier. GUIDs are locally generated, world-unique
  random numbers, which make them handy for uniquely identifying all
  kinds of things without a centralized organization or database.
  GUIDs are a great way to identify hard disk partitions, enabling
  the operating system to track volumes even if the device interface
  changes (as would happen if you ripped your old hard drive out of
  your Mac and tossed it into a FireWire enclosure).

  GPT replaces Apple Partition Map (APM) as the boot partition
  scheme for Intel-based Macs. And therein lies the rub. Intel-based
  Macs can't boot from older APM drives, and PowerPC-based Macs
  can't boot from newer GPT drives. This appears to be a permanent
  situation - each scheme makes incompatible assumptions about the
  layout of physical block 1 on the disk. While GPT was designed
  to be compatible with Master Block Record (MBR, the PC's old
  partition scheme), it doesn't play nicely with APM.

  Even if you could somehow mesh the two schemes, the sad fact is
  that Mac OS X 10.4.4's double life has not been reconciled to the
  point where one copy of 10.4.4 will boot both PowerPC- and Intel-
  based Macs. You can see the evidence of this when you select About
  This Mac on both systems and click the version number. On PowerPC-
  based Macs, it reads "Build 8G32", while on Intel-based Macs it
  reads "8G1165". Eventually Apple will reconcile Mac OS X to one
  universal build for both systems, but we're not there today.

  The new partition scheme affects booting off external drives
  and at least three Mac OS X programs (in a total of four
  different ways). Unfortunately, the net impact is a worse
  user experience.


**Mac OS X Installer** -- On Intel-based Macs, the Mac OS X
  Installer issues an install-blocking error if you attempt to
  install on a APM drive: "You cannot install Mac OS X on this
  volume. Mac OS X cannot start up from this volume."

  While it's nice that Apple upgraded Installer to be aware of the
  scheme incompatibility, the error message fails to convey why Mac
  OS X cannot boot from the selected drive. I sympathize with the
  desire to shield the user from partition scheme complexities, but
  this error message is simply wrong. Mac OS X can start from an
  APM drive - only Mac OS X on Intel cannot. A better error message
  would be: "You cannot install Mac OS X on this volume. Mac OS X
  on Intel startup requires GUID Partition Scheme."

  In order to convince the Installer to allow installation onto your
  external drive, you must use Disk Utility to repartition the drive
  using GPT. Unfortunately, Disk Utility is one of the programs
  whose interface suffers in the face of the new additional
  partition scheme.


**Disk Utility** -- Starting with the version of Disk Utility
  that shipped with Mac OS X 10.4.3 (confusingly, version 10.5.3
  (198.5)), a critical yet nondescript Options button was added
  to the Partition tab. This shy button appears only when you've
  selected an external drive. Clicking it reveals a sheet that
  enables you to select the partition scheme prior to partitioning
  the selected drive. While the sheet mentions why you'd want to
  use the PC Partition Scheme (MBR), it remains mute on the need of
  selecting APM for booting PowerPC-based Macs and GPT for booting
  Intel-based Macs. Even Disk Utility's Help documentation fails
  to explain why you'd want to choose one over another. Here we
  have a setting that's critical to enable booting Intel-based
  Macs off external drives. When visible at all, it's buried -
  sans documentation - in a pop-up menu, in a sheet, invoked by
  a generic button, inside a tab view. It doesn't get any more
  obscure than that.

  Disk Utility's Erase tab lacks any mention of the partition
  scheme. Arguably this is beyond the tab's scope - the Erase
  tab is more concerned with erasing what's already there than
  partitioning drives. But this view doesn't hold, given that you
  can easily repartition a drive in the Erase tab: just select
  an existing drive with multiple partitions and click the Erase
  button. Disk Utility happily repartitions the entire drive into
  one large partition - always using the APM scheme, or always
  unbootable on an Intel-based Mac. Ideally Erase would ask the
  user for the partition scheme, defaulting to the only bootable
  scheme for the current machine.


**Startup Disk** -- This preference pane fails in different ways
  depending on whether it's run on a PowerPC-based Mac or an Intel-
  based Mac. Try plugging a GPT drive into a PowerPC-based Mac.
  Startup Disk allows you to select the disk and goes so far as to
  let you see the Restart button. However, when you actually click
  Restart, the process then fails with a beep. If you read your
  console.log file (using the Console application in your Utilities
  folder), you'll see the "bless" command (which Startup Disk runs
  behind the scenes) has failed, complaining it could not determine
  the partition of the selected GPT drive.

  The user experience is slightly better when you plug an APM drive
  into an Intel-based Mac: APM drives are filtered out and don't
  show up at all in the list of boot drives in Startup Disk.

  Neither experience is good. Startup Disk should be reworked into
  a vertical list of all partitions (similar to Mac OS 9.2's Startup
  Disk Control Panel). Boot-incompatible drives should still be
  listed, but dimmed out and made unavailable for startup selection.
  A concise note beside each partition would correctly explain why
  it cannot be selected for startup.


**No Universal Boot Drive** -- An important point to keep in mind
  is that all this complexity can be ignored for non-boot drives.
  If you just have a drive with data on it, you can use it inside
  or outside both PowerPC- and Intel-based Macs without any issues.

  If you have an existing boot drive - either internal or external -
  that was used with a PowerPC-based Mac, you'll need to repartition
  it (thereby erasing all of its data) in order to use it to boot an
  Intel-based Mac. The same goes for the other direction (Intel-
  based Mac to PowerPC-based Mac).

  Currently, there is no method to enable one external drive to boot
  both PowerPC- and Intel-based Macs. Given the fundamental block 1
  incompatibility between these two partition schemes, this
  situation may be permanent.

  The only possibility I see is hand-crafting a hybrid partition
  scheme that empirically boots both kinds of Macs. I say
  "empirically," since it may involve crafting a scheme that's
  invalid by both definitions of APM and GPT, but works anyway due
  implementation details of how particular Macs boot. For example,
  APM demands that physical block 1 begins with "PM," while GPT
  demands "EFI PART". Depending on the how stringent the checks
  are at boot time, it may be possible to get a PowerPC-based Mac
  to start executing disk-based code before ensuring the validity
  of block 1's PM prefix. That low-level code could quickly "fix-up"
  the erstwhile GPT scheme into an APM scheme, allowing booting
  to proceed normally.

  That said, while perhaps theoretically possible, I'd file such
  a technique under black-magic rocket-science and would never use
  it myself. My data is just too precious to risk in such a way.


**Gradually Progressing Technology** -- The Intel-based Macs are
  out of the gate, and of course there will be stumbling blocks
  with new machines with new architectures. While the initial
  program versions haven't fared well in the face of a new
  partition scheme, at least Installer does stop you before
  installing Mac OS X on a drive whose partition scheme makes
  it unbootable. That's a 20- to 40- minute misstep averted
  thanks to a commendable up-front check.

  [Jonathan "Wolf" Rentzsch is an indie Mac contract programmer
  around Northwest Illinois.]


Tools We Use: DropCopy
----------------------
  by Matt Neuburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

  I've recently discovered DropCopy, from 10base-t Interactive.
  This little utility's "window" is a small translucent dark spot,
  rather like a hole, that sits behind all other applications
  (and behind your desktop Finder icons). Drag a file or folder
  onto this hole, and a menu appears next to it, listing the names
  of any other computers on your local network that are also running
  DropCopy. Continue dragging onto an item of that menu, and the
  file or folder is copied to that computer.

  You could use Personal File Sharing to accomplish the same thing,
  of course, but DropCopy feels far more lightweight: you don't need
  to turn File Sharing on, you don't need a username and password,
  you don't need to log on or open any remote Finder windows, you
  don't need to worry about permissions. Instead, DropCopy uses
  Bonjour (formerly known as Rendezvous) for auto-discovery and data
  transfer. You could use iChat, but you'd need to arrange multiple
  screen names to avoid the "multiple logins" problem, and you'd
  have to be at both computers at once (one to send the file and the
  other to accept it). With DropCopy, you just send a file into the
  hole and it's on its way. For just popping an occasional Finder
  item over to another computer, DropCopy is simply perfect.

  DropCopy also lets you post a text message dialog to another
  computer, and you can even fetch the contents of another
  computer's clipboard. (Back in the old Mac OS 8.6 days, I wrote
  some gruesome AppleScript tools to accomplish that.) If you've got
  more than one computer on your local network, even if there's just
  one human user, you'll probably find DropCopy a huge time-saver.
  The interface is delightful (I love the animation as the hole
  darkens and lightens while a file passes through it), and the
  price (free!) is right.

<http://10base-t.com/dropcopy.html>


Let Yojimbo Guard Your Information Castle
-----------------------------------------
  by Matt Neuburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

  The latest entry in the ever-growing roster of information
  organizers comes from Bare Bones Software, maker of such
  programs as Mailsmith and BBEdit (and its freeware little
  brother, TextWrangler). Yojimbo, whose evocative name means
  roughly "bodyguard for hire" in Japanese (as in the classic
  Kurosawa film), is distinguished by its ease of use and the
  way it supplies structure to certain types of data.

<http://www.barebones.com/products/yojimbo/>
<http://db.tidbits.com/getbits.acgi?tbser=1196>
<http://db.tidbits.com/getbits.acgi?tbart=07956>
<http://db.tidbits.com/getbits.acgi?tbart=07289>
<http://www.duallens.com/index.asp?reviewId=60603>

  Yojimbo's approach to maintaining information is simple. You have
  a single database of items, called the Library. An item can be
  text (possibly styled, and possibly including images), a URL
  (called a "bookmark"), an archive (either a Web Archive of
  the sort that Safari now knows how to save, or a PDF), a serial
  number, or a password. (Arbitrary files, such as images or Excel
  documents, or aliases to such files, cannot be stored as items in
  Yojimbo.) A particularly nice touch is that you can create a PDF
  and save it into Yojimbo in a single move, using the Save PDF
  in Yojimbo command in the PDF pop-up menu of any application's
  Print dialog. (You might use this feature, for instance, to
  store copies of receipt pages from Web orders.) Any item can be
  encrypted, and to enable this, you must assign the library itself
  a password; password items are always encrypted. A preference lets
  you decide whether you want to be prompted for your password every
  time you decrypt an item to read it.

  You don't have to work directly in Yojimbo's window to throw items
  into it. A system-wide hotkey summons the Quick Input Panel, in
  which the current clipboard contents are turned into an item and
  where you have an opportunity to determine what kind of item it
  is and assign a title. There is also a drawer at the edge of the
  screen (the Drop Dock), into which you can drop items. Finally,
  you can drop text and PDF files (one at a time, or in batches) on
  Yojimbo's Dock icon to import them. Unfortunately, there's no way
  to import a tab-delimited text file of passwords or serial numbers
  into individual password and serial number items, making it
  difficult to migrate existing collections of data from other
  applications into Yojimbo. And Yojimbo isn't scriptable with
  AppleScript, so the best way to transfer such existing data
  to Yojimbo may be organically, as you use the information.

  In keeping with its goal of direct simplicity, Yojimbo supplies
  only a modicum of organization. You can flag an item, or assign
  it a label (a color). You can create "collections" (like iTunes
  playlists or iPhoto albums) and assign an item to one or more
  of them. There are also some built-in "smart collections" which
  present categories of items, such as all text items or all flagged
  items. And a search field lets you find items based on their
  titles, contents, or comments, instantly. (But you cannot nest
  collections, create your own smart collections, or save a search.)

  In situations where it makes sense (bookmarks, serial numbers, and
  passwords), Yojimbo provides a set of fields to hold the different
  pieces of data in the item. So, for example, a bookmark has a name
  field, a location field, and a comments field; a serial number has
  a name, the serial number, and four further fields. This is a good
  use of structure where it makes sense, without imposing it on the
  text and archive item types that don't need it. However, you can't
  define your own fields for custom types of information. If this
  became possible in a future version, you could use Yojimbo to
  store (for example) recipe references, with fields for name,
  cookbook name, page number, and so on. I currently use iData 2
  as a lightweight flat-file database for this sort of thing, but
  surely the point of an information organizer should be that you
  can keep any kind of information in it. As so often, I'm reminded
  with nostalgia of the wonderful WebArranger, which permitted you
  to define your own item types, each with its own set of fields.

<http://db.tidbits.com/getbits.acgi?tbart=07761>
<http://db.tidbits.com/getbits.acgi?tbart=01149>

  You would expect from the thoughtful and accomplished folks at
  Bare Bones a certain clarity and slickness of interface, as well
  as a showpiece that takes advantage of the brightest and best
  among system technologies. With Yojimbo, that's just what you
  get. Yojimbo is a Tiger-only application because it relies on
  the latest Mac OS X advances. For instance, it's a Core Data
  application, so that your items are kept easily and automatically
  in a SQLite database. Yojimbo also makes all non-encrypted items
  individually available to system-wide Spotlight searches, by
  representing each one as a stub in your Caches folder. (Whether
  you regard this as a felicitous choice depends upon your point of
  view. I don't want more matches in my Spotlight searches; I want
  fewer!) And if you have a .Mac account, Yojimbo can use the .Mac
  SDK to synchronize your Yojimbo data between machines, so you can
  retrieve your passwords and serial numbers while using your iBook
  on the road.

<http://developer.apple.com/macosx/coredata.html>
<http://developer.apple.com/internet/dotmackit.html>

  Bare Bones's Yojimbo Web page asserts that the program has
  "no learning curve"; and this, allowing for the usual pedantic
  disagreements over what the phrase "learning curve" means,
  is absolutely true. Download it and run it; in less than a minute,
  you will know exactly how to put data into it and find what
  you've put in. Much as I appreciate the effort that Bare Bones
  has put into Yojimbo, though, it's not a particularly ambitious
  application and may not compel people to switch to it from other
  programs that offer roughly similar features. Nevertheless, anyone
  who has hesitated to try any information organizer because they
  all seem overly complex and confusing might well be attracted to
  Yojimbo's direct simplicity and should certainly give it a try.

  Yojimbo requires Mac OS X 10.4.3 or later; it costs $40 for an
  individual license that may be used by one user on multiple
  machines, $70 for up to five users with multiple machines,
  or $30 for educational users with a single machine. The demo
  version expires after 30 days.

<http://www.barebones.com/products/yojimbo/demo.shtml>


Hot Topics in TidBITS Talk/30-Jan-06
------------------------------------
  by TidBITS Staff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

  The first link for each thread description points to the
  traditional TidBITS Talk interface; the second link points to
  the same discussion on our Web Crossing server, which provides
  a different look and which may be faster.


**Turbo Tax problems** -- Now that tax season has started in the
  United States, readers revive this thread comparing experiences
  with Intuit's tax-preparation software. (7 messages)

<http://db.tidbits.com/getbits.acgi?tlkthrd=2850>
<http://emperor.tidbits.com/TidBITS/Talk/383/>


**CCTV software for Macs** -- A reader looks for Mac software that
  can read CCTV output, and discovers an inexpensive way to make
  panoramas! (3 messages)

<http://db.tidbits.com/getbits.acgi?tlkthrd=2852>
<http://emperor.tidbits.com/TidBITS/Talk/694/>


**Automated/batch lookup of longitude/latitude for city lists?**
  Several methods of determining a city's longitude and latitude
  are available. (5 messages)

<http://db.tidbits.com/getbits.acgi?tlkthrd=2854>
<http://emperor.tidbits.com/TidBITS/Talk/696/>


**DVD Ripping Question** -- Readers look at the many ways of
  ripping unprotected DVD content to one's hard drive for a
  variety of uses. (14 messages)

<http://db.tidbits.com/getbits.acgi?tlkthrd=2855>
<http://emperor.tidbits.com/TidBITS/Talk/697/>


**Converting AOL.ART compressed files** -- Do you have lots of
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