Unlike the HTMLArea version in ASciencePad, Bram's version seems to handle most TW markup. I ran identical tests on ASciencePad (abbreviated to ASP in the results below), Bram's HTMLArea (BCHTMLA) and a copy of Bram's HTMLArea with the HTMLFormattingPlugin in place (BCHTMLA+HTMLFP). Here's what I found when testing all the markup listed at www.tiddlywiki.org's markup page. I used "Y" to indicate the markup worked, "N" to indicate when it didn't work, and "?" when it partly worked. I added comments where there was more detail to add:
Bold ASP Y BCHTMLA Y BCHTMLA+HTMLFP Y Italic ASP N BCHTMLA Y BCHTMLA+HTMLFP Y Underline ASP N BCHTMLA Y BCHTMLA+HTMLFP Y Strikethrough ASP N BCHTMLA Y BCHTMLA+HTMLFP Y Super script ASP N BCHTMLA Y BCHTMLA+HTMLFP Y Sub script ASP N BCHTMLA Y BCHTMLA+HTMLFP Y Highlighting ASP N BCHTMLA Y BCHTMLA+HTMLFP Y Preformatted ASP N BCHTMLA Y BCHTMLA+HTMLFP Y Headings ASP Y BCHTMLA Y BCHTMLA+HTMLFP Y Unordered list ASP Y BCHTMLA Y BCHTMLA+HTMLFP Y Ordered list ASP Y BCHTMLA Y BCHTMLA+HTMLFP Y Definition list ASP N BCHTMLA Y BCHTMLA+HTMLFP Y Block quotes ASP ? BCHTMLA Y BCHTMLA+HTMLFP Y (ASP omitted the block quote marker in the first row and adjusted the length of a second marker dynamically depending on where the mouse pointer hovered over the tiddler) Block quotes 2 ASP ? BCHTMLA ? BCHTMLA+HTMLFP ? (I don't understand what the "<<<" form of the blockquote markup is supposed to do but all three TWs displayed the outcome as a single "<" on one line, the text on the next and then a final line with a single "<". Preformatted ASP N BCHTMLA ? BCHTMLA+HTMLFP ? (The markup page at www.tiddlywiki.org has two forms of preformatted markup. This is the second of the two. ASP showed both sets of curly brackets while both forms of HTMLArea show only the second set of triple curly brackets) Table ASP N BCHTMLA N BCHTMLA+HTMLFP N (All showed rows correctly but the rows were separated from each other. I didn't check the COLSPAN and ROWSPAN options. An initial |CssClass|k row was displayed as text rather than as formatting in ASP. I also tried all 3 versions with soft carriage returns at the end of each line of table markup but that made no difference) Macros ASP Y BCHTMLA Y BCHTMLA+HTMLFP Y (All environments recognised and ran an embedded tiddler (I used <<newTiddler>>). I suspect that some macros which inspect tiddler content behave differently in different environments. For example the macro <<showtoc>> for DCTableOfContentsPlugin inspects headings. It generated a macro error in BCHTMLA but generated some incomplete error text that was not highlighted in the standard error colour in BCHTMLA +HTMLFP. I did not know how to place it within ASP so I didn't try it there). I'm guessing therefore that HTMLFormattingPlugin may not be needed alongside Bram's HTMLArea as available in AsciiMath-2.4.1.081008.zip from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=150646&package_id=169974&release_id=599120 unless it's somehow cleverer at running macros that refer to the structure of the tiddler in which they're embedded. The TW markup can be useful at present because there are some oddities with the way this HTMLArea formats headings using its style dropdown box. If I have to abandon this part of the HTMLArea toolbar I'm wondering if I'll end up abandoning other parts once I've explored them. And I'd be quite happy to use TW markup because my interest in this version of HTMLArea is its ability to create mathematical expressions and graphs, rather than its wysiwyg capability. There's another potential advantage with tables. Although HTMLArea provides a table insertion tool, I can't find a way to modify or extend a table easily after it's been created. And you can't easily paste the content of an old table into a new one of a different size. TW markup though might make table extension easier. In the light of all this I wondered: 1) have I missed any significant tests? I've been very focused on markup but, apart from macros, I wasn't sure what else I should test 2) does anyone know of any other ways in which this version of HTMLArea might impact other aspects of TW? 3) does anyone know if there's an online user guide to HTMLArea? (I suspect it's considered so simple it doesn't need one, and the original producers no longer support it, but such a guide might show if tables really can be extended) Thanks Kevin On Oct 13, 2:11 pm, kilucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've just spotted HTMLFormattingPlugin which looks as if it'll help me > use more TW markup and the HTMLFormattingPluginInfo provides an > introduction to some TW markup that wouldn't work including embedded > macros. > > Of course there's no information there about plugin compatibilities > (unless the plugin is invoked via a macro) so I'd remain interested in > any issues anyone foresees here. > > And meanwhile I'll try out HTMLFormattingPlugin. > > Thanks > > Kevin > > On Oct 13, 1:59 pm, kilucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > It looks as if I'll use theHTMLAreaeditor as my primary tiddler > > editor becauseBramChen's got a version which intergates the > > ASCIIMath capability. But I'm wondering what, if anything I'll lose by > > using such an editor or what changes I need to be aware of. > > > For example, it looks as if standard tiddler markup for tables won't > > work. While this might not matter too much becauseHTMLAreahas its > > own table creation capability, I can't see how to change a table if I > > want to enlarge it and pasting old tables into new larger tables looks > > difficult. So TW markup might therefore have been more flexible). > > > As another example, the DCTableOfContentsPlugin seems to work in my TW- > > stanrad tiddlers but noit in my HTMLArtea tiddlers whether the > > headings are marked with an exclamation mark or via the heading style. > > > I'm guessing that I'll need to assess all TW markup to see what will > > and won't work and that I'll have to test all my plugins that affect > > HTML-edited tiddlers. > > > But if anyone has any pointers on what's most likely to differ from > > standard TW tiddlers it'd be great to hear from you so that I can > > focus my testing in the most liklely areas. Being new to TW I don't > > feel very clear where problems may lurk! And I searched through this > > group but didn't spot any postings that seemed to cover this. (My > > apologies if I missed any). > > > Many thanks > > > Kevin- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
