> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > The drawback is that you
> > have to manually add the topics to the mainmenu, and that you can't
> > collapse the main topics down, you have to see the entire menu for
> > each topic. With mine, the topics subtopics and notes are all the same
> > font styles, but they get automatically added to the mainmenu and can
> > be collapsed completely. You can pick which is the better fit for you.
>
> Dave you've forgotten there is an important major, major difference
> between TW Notes and NoBrainer.
>
> As I noted in TW Notes, the meaning of Master Topic has changed from
> the NoBrainer version.  In TW Notes the Master Topic as you can see is
> in red and each one of those is the same as the single one in
> NoBrainer that you call Topic Index.  They each behave exactly the
> same as Topic Index and collapse just as far.

Hi Morris, I hope you didn't take my comment as a slight of your new
creation, because it wasn't meant that way. I understood perfectly
what you are describing here when I wrote. I realize that each Master
topic is its own No-Brainer index. It's a cool idea. And I like being
able to have separate formatting for the master topics. It's something
I always wished I could do in NBN but don't see how it can be done
except your way. My comment was only meant to point out the advantages
and disadvantages of each approach. With your way, the advantage, as I
see it, is the formatting, a definite weakness of mine, since whatever
CSS is applied to master topics gets applied to the whole index. With
my way the advantage is that all the subtopics and notes can be buried
under the master topic, whereas your first layer of subtopics for
every master topic is always visible, taking up valuable vertical real
estate.

> The only manual adding is after you've created a new Master Topic is
> to insert it into MainMenu.  And it's worth the effort because what
> you are actually doing is creating another NoBrainer within TW Notes.

I agree that it is worth the effort. I too have projects that require
a little assembly to make them work well. My comment about it being a
drawback is just from experience here, especially with the original
TiddlyDu2 creation process, that newbies don't want to have to add
anything. So for them it's a drawback.

> Please understand they are two different animals and TW Notes is
> higher up the food chain :-)

In versatility, yes. In simplicity, no. That's why I think having two
versions is worth it. Many will appreciate your more nuanced search
options, your take on master topics, your gradients, your extra
quickedit options, your more complete instructions, etc. Others will
want my simplicity, my clean flat spaces and the full collapsibility
of my mainmenu.

I hope that you don't see my revisions today as competition or
oneupmanship. Long ago you came out with the first TW Notes as a tweak
of mine. I thought at the time that I needed to incorporate a couple
of your changes, and never got to it. Today upon seeing your further
improvements, and because a couple things I meant to do today got shot
down by circumstances, I found the time and motivation to do what I
always meant to do before.

So to sum up, once again thanks for the new TW toy under the tree. And
have a wonderful Christmas!

Dave
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