The thing is that first you need a grasp of html, css, and javascript. Once you have those, then you just start taking things apart. And how well commented the TW source code comes in handy for this. Mind you, I get html, a big chunk of css, and I can kind of follow javascript. I write code the way bears dance. You are not impressed at the quality, you just get impressed that the bear can dance.
Another big thing is just remembering what all the various plugins can do. Then when you come up with something you want to do, you can find something that does it, or is close to it to use as a begining. I think part of the problem is that playing with a TW is about equal parts art and science. Sure you can get a standard TW effect by adding this plugin and that one (science), but to create something totally new is where it becomes art. You need that special little spark (See Girl Genuis comic), and that can't really be taught. Well, that and half of the fun is just playing around until you suddenly realize that it is 4am... Ken Girard On Jan 26, 10:53 am, "Mark S." <[email protected]> wrote: > Tim O'Reilly, are you listening? > > The problem with the Wiki at tiddlywiki.org, and maybe all unmoderated > wiki's, is that anyone can start a topic. Different people will think > to put the same information under different topic categories. Looking > at "slices" for example, I see at least 3 attempts do describe them, > all under different titles. The problem is, if the information is > different in each of the topics, how does a beginning user know which > one to use? > > The overall problem is that most Wiki's lack an outlining structure. > Outlines (trees, as they are sometimes implemented) helps people see > where information is missing, and where it fits in. > > For my own use, that's why I've been using the TW-notes version, > allowing you to create something of a data structure. I know it must > be possible to create a real tree object in JSP -- I've seen them in > some web applications. > > For now, what I'd like is a list of available TW/story methods and how > they work. This might entail reading the TW code and compiling my own > documentation. I suppose this is how most of the current TW plugin > developers started. > > -- Mark > > On Jan 26, 7:23 am, Eric Weir <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Jan 26, 2009, at 9:43 AM, Merlin wrote: > > > > I'm wondering, is there a course I can do, or a step by step > > > tutorial I can go through, rather than just picking topics more or > > > less at random and trying to piece it all together in my head? > > > Easy for me to say, since I am in absolutely no position to do it > > myself, but we need a book. Much of the conversation here is about the > > basic "how-tos" of TiddlyWiki. I'm very greatful that the wise and > > creative TiddlyWiki experts here are so generous, and never loose > > patience, with the likes of me. > > > But often when I ask I know what I'm asking about is common knowledge > > to non-newbies, and I often wish there were a book that could give me > > an overview, and help me get ahead of the game, so that I don't have > > to be always asking questions that must make more experienced users > > tear their hair. [Except that they never do, so maybe they don't > > really.] > > > I know this is not an original thought with me, but I thought I'd just > > put it out there again. > > > Eric Weir > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Decatur, GA USA > > [email protected] --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
