On Feb 12, 11:58 am, Daniel Baird <[email protected]> wrote:
> Imagine if you could just download and unzip some PHP files, and
> instantly have a tiddlyspot-type server running behind your corporate
> firewall, on your school server, or just on the Mac Mini in the back
> of your broom cupboard.
This is very cool. I think it will be very useful to lots of people.
At your leisure I think it would be great for you guys, Simon, Cool
Cold, BidiX, Frank (of WikklyText) and me and Fred to have some chats
about where, if anywhere, there are overlaps between TiddlySpot,
TiddlySpeck, ccTiddly, TiddlyHome, WikklyText and TiddlyWeb. They all
have slightly different goals and attitudes but I've never seen a
single location that delineates all that. Might be useful.
> Much as we love Ruby, we figure it's still a little dicey getting Ruby
> code to work on free and low cost web hosts. PHP on the other hand
> seems to be supported everywhere, and it's a major goal to make the
> thing install and run with a minimum of messing about. So PHP it is.
This is proving to be somewhat of an issue with TiddlyWeb. Because it
is Python there are moderately onerous requirements for install that
are easy to satisfy if you have your own host, but somewhat less so if
you are using a shared server (not impossible, just takes some work).
Since easy to install everywhere was not one of the main TiddlyWeb
requirements I went for a language I actually like. :)
> - Easy to understand. TW goes in, TW goes out. I'd love to fix the
> simultaneous edit problem, that's pretty confusing. Might be out of
> scope here though :)
This is one of the major areas where TiddlyWeb seems to differ from
the others: it thinks in terms of tiddlers going in and out, not
(just) tiddlywikis, and it _does_ solve the simultaneous edit problem.
> Licencing:
> BSD? GPL? Maybe LGPL? I have a vague sense of the difference
> between these, but I have no idea what the real ramifications are of
> each. Will GPL get in the way of corporate use, even just
> psychologically? And I'd like to allow some kind of plugin
> arrangement that permits non-open source addons. Any advice?
This is just my opinion, but if you are going for maximum flexibility,
I'd suggest BSD.
> Currently we're calling it TiddlySpeck, but actually I'd love to think
> of a name that's not related to tiddlyspot, and maybe doesn't even
> include the word "tiddly". Or is that blasphemous?
I'm pretty sure not using Tiddly in the name is blasphemous and if you
don't there might be a schism in the church that last decades, perhaps
centuries.
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